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Old 01-09-2005   #101
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Chester Pitts was playing through injury against the Browns, which explains a lot. It states the Texans still lack depth in several key positions. The offensive line will be addressed you can bet your sweet bippy on that
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Funny, isn't that exactly Casserly and every other scout/GM's job when evaluating FA's and potential draft picks? Yup. And how do they do it?--with game film--that tool you consider completely useless without knowing the assignments. Care to go for the truly absurd and claim they get all the assignments from all the college and pro-teams? I'm calling that game, set and match.
Yeah, like Casserly sits around watching game film all the time and makes decisions without knowing the assignments and without Capers input. You must be trolling.
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I think what we do in the draft will be determined on who we let go in this offseason and who we do and don't sign. Our DL is a major question mark. Only Smith performed to what he should have. I think Payne will get stronger and back to his old self with work this offseason--that second surgery set him way back and I'm surprised he started the first game and last game of the season. I wonder how much comentment there is in the front office to this guy. Gary Walker is going no where fast. Literally. I think Chasserly and the coaching staff are letting him get by just because he made the Pro Bowl in the Expansion Season and crossing their fingers he can have another season like he did that first year, but I don't think so.

We are going to have to address both of these guys this offseason. Hovan would be a good fit for us a nose tackle, but he has had problems up in Minnesota with being fresh. As for Walker, I don't know where we could find a replacement for him, in FA or the draft.

I agree OL is a major issue, but if we are going to address it, it will have to be in FA to benefit us at all in the near future. If we take a OL in the draft, it will have to be with the #13 pick. If we take one in the later rounds, he will not make an impact this next season whatsoever. I was hoping we would take Jacob Rogers last year in the second round, but that was before we traded away everything for Babin. I think we will have to find one though FA again like the past 2 offseasons, and I don't know what is out there to like. Walter Jones is going to be at too much of a price for us.

When we pick at #13 there are three people that come to mind. Derrick Johnson who I don't beleive will be there at #13, Mike Williams who will, and Carlos Rogers who will. I wouldn't mind taking either Williams or Rogers, I think they would be perfect fits for us, but they wouldn't fill our most pressing needs. Jaamal Brown from OU would be available at #13 and I think he is the only OT in this draft who could make an immediate impact.

As for DE's, I wonder if Eramus James would fit in our 3-4 scheme at end? Shawn Cody of USC will be availabe later and we can trade down for him.

In the end, I think we are going to be dissapointed in this offseason. Anyway we go its going to have its questions and we are going to leave something major left out. I mean maybe we get DL help, but none for the OL or it could be the other way around. I think anyway you look at it, Casserly is going to really be sweating this 1 out.
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Yeah, like Casserly sits around watching game film all the time and makes decisions without knowing the assignments and without Capers input. You must be trolling.
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Ask the driver of the short yellow school bus to pull over and ask her--she will tell you the other 31 teams aren't giving up the individual assignments for each play so Charlie can grade their free agents and Charlie isn't sitting around with individual assignments from all the college teams so he can evaluate draft choices. They look at game film--exactly what you say can't be done. Don't worry about the delay in your trip, you reached the outskirts of la-la land a while ago.
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unless i misunderstood the texans have the largest scouting staff in the nfl. and uptodate cass and the staff have been on the money with their top picks...

carr = easily the potential to be better then average (if not already) with a chance to be something special given the right pieces around him.

johnson = pro bowl

robinson = cheated according to many out of defensive rookie of the year and or a trip to the pro bowl.

(i dont include babin due to various reasons...i think he was tagged as our 2 and the texans moved hastily to aquire him by trade once they had information he wouldnt be there...he will pan out)

whats the point of this? casserly has been bullseye with his top picks so far ,and i have faith in whatever they do. the rest of the draft (specifically last year) was frustrating. we all had our pet players and had gone to war with one another about this need and that player...etc...what happened? we didnt have half of those picks...and who the hell coulda ever guessed we'd select jamal lord as a safety? i spent enough time last year deciding what the texans would do only to be blown outta the watter with pretty much everyone else.

this year im not going to prognasticate farther then the first round or reoccuring tendencies. we will make a trade. we will draft at least 1 rehabbing player. we will take a qb late if a good one slips.

the only other thing ill speculate about is a trade back. its not going to happen in the first round this year. this maybe the last draft the texans pick this high (so they hope). they're not aiming for multiple picks yet. they're looking for another core player ( or 2 ...and im thinking potential pro bowler when i say core player). next year or perhaps the year after the texans probably trade back for multiple 2s and 3s to upgrade the depth. right now we're trying to upgrade our starters...

an excercise in futility but i suppose its fun...till draft day comes around if your obssesed.
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You can get impact OLinemen in the draft. Just ask San Diego. They started a 7th Round rookie RT from the Ohio State University, and they seemed to do pretty well. I don't think you neccessarily have to go to FA to find a quality OLineman that can make an immediate impact. You also don't have to go high in the draft either. It's usually a safer bet, but that's not always the case. I think its much more important for the OLine to gel, and if we can get some young guys in here at OG and C who will push the vets then it will only make our OLine improve.
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unless i misunderstood the texans have the largest scouting staff in the nfl. and uptodate cass and the staff have been on the money with their top picks...

carr = easily the potential to be better then average (if not already) with a chance to be something special given the right pieces around him.

johnson = pro bowl

robinson = cheated according to many out of defensive rookie of the year and or a trip to the pro bowl.

(i dont include babin due to various reasons...i think he was tagged as our 2 and the texans moved hastily to aquire him by trade once they had information he wouldnt be there...he will pan out)

whats the point of this? casserly has been bullseye with his top picks so far ,and i have faith in whatever they do. the rest of the draft (specifically last year) was frustrating. we all had our pet players and had gone to war with one another about this need and that player...etc...what happened? we didnt have half of those picks...and who the hell coulda ever guessed we'd select jamal lord as a safety? i spent enough time last year deciding what the texans would do only to be blown outta the watter with pretty much everyone else.

this year im not going to prognasticate farther then the first round or reoccuring tendencies. we will make a trade. we will draft at least 1 rehabbing player. we will take a qb late if a good one slips.

the only other thing ill speculate about is a trade back. its not going to happen in the first round this year. this maybe the last draft the texans pick this high (so they hope). they're not aiming for multiple picks yet. they're looking for another core player ( or 2 ...and im thinking potential pro bowler when i say core player). next year or perhaps the year after the texans probably trade back for multiple 2s and 3s to upgrade the depth. right now we're trying to upgrade our starters...

an excercise in futility but i suppose its fun...till draft day comes around if your obssesed.

Very good post !
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Ask the driver of the short yellow school bus to pull over and ask her--she will tell you the other 31 teams aren't giving up the individual assignments for each play so Charlie can grade their free agents and Charlie isn't sitting around with individual assignments from all the college teams so he can evaluate draft choices. They look at game film--exactly what you say can't be done. Don't worry about the delay in your trip, you reached the outskirts of la-la land a while ago.
It sounds to me like you aren't even in the game today. Try again tomorrow.
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You can get impact OLinemen in the draft. Just ask San Diego. They started a 7th Round rookie RT from the Ohio State University, and they seemed to do pretty well. I don't think you neccessarily have to go to FA to find a quality OLineman that can make an immediate impact. You also don't have to go high in the draft either. It's usually a safer bet, but that's not always the case. I think its much more important for the OLine to gel, and if we can get some young guys in here at OG and C who will push the vets then it will only make our OLine improve.
That same RT would have been available to us. Is it possible we are not good at evaluating O-linemen or D-linemen? Or is it possible we do not know how to coach linemen into being effective linemen? Or did we think we already had our bases covered with FA? These are some interesting questions, because we focused on Defense with our last picks.
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I really don't think it was a matter of evaluating talent because Olivea was graded as a 3rd rounder before his injury. His injury made him slip down late into the draft, and as you may remember we had already gambled by taking Earl who was recovering from an injury as well. We had Wade in place, and I'm sure the coaches must have factored in Wand's improvement coupled with Pitts having experience playing LT. If we had taken Olivea in the 6th round before the Chargers got him then we would've possibly taken three players who were recovering from injury. Earl, Symmons, and Olivea.
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I think in our first draft we selected 2 OL and 3 DL.2nd draft we took Wand and I think Milford Brown in the suplemental.Thats 4 young OL,wich ones standout.How many are not on the roster.
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