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The Pencil Neck · 09-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Hoth-Boy

Cuncussion in the Dallas game, then he pulled a hammy in practice this morning.

And now he's on IR.

**Specnatz** · 09-01-2007

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

And now he's on IR.

saves a roster spot what ever works, they did not want to lose him via wavier.

Texans Horror · 09-01-2007

That means Studdard's in. Woohoo! The Texans are definitely on the up-and-coming now.

Texans Horror · 09-01-2007

By draft, then, remaining a playing (non-IR/Pup) Texans:

2007 - Okoye, Jones, Bennett, Studdard, Diles
2006 - Mario, Demeco, Captain Caveman (Winston!), Owen Daniels
2005 - TJ, Mathis, CC Brown
2004 - Dunta, Anderson
2003 - AJ
2002 - Pitts, Weary, Faggins

Did I miss anybody?

2003 and 2004 - bust years...

threetoedpete · 09-01-2007

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Originally Posted by MojoMan

Maybe they are trying to trade Mike Flanagan.

My money says the three centers aren't going anywhere.

MissouriTexan · 09-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Texans Horror

By draft, then, remaining a playing (non-IR/Pup) Texans:

2007 - Okoye, Jones, Bennett, Studdard, Diles
2006 - Mario, Demeco, Captain Caveman (Winston!), Owen Daniels
2005 - TJ, Mathis, CC Brown
2004 - Dunta, Anderson
2003 - AJ
2002 - Pitts, Weary, Faggins

Did I miss anybody?

2003 and 2004 - bust years...

Could you list who else they drafted those years, as well as where they are right now? It'd be much appreciated.

threetoedpete · 09-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Texans Horror

By draft, then, remaining a playing (non-IR/Pup) Texans:

2007 - Okoye, Jones, Bennett, Studdard, Diles
2006 - Mario, Demeco, Captain Caveman (Winston!), Owen Daniels
2005 - TJ, Mathis, CC Brown
2004 - Dunta, Anderson
2003 - AJ
2002 - Pitts, Weary, Faggins

Did I miss anybody?

2003 and 2004 - bust years...

http://www.drafthistory.com/teams/texans.html

Knock youself out.

threetoedpete · 09-01-2007

2003s 1 2 0 0 Tony Hollings RB Georgia Tech
2003 1 1 3 3 Andre Johnson WR Miami (FL)
2 2 9 41 Ben Joppru TE Michigan
3 3 3 67 Antwan Peek LB Cincinnati
4 3 11 75 Seth Wand T Northwest Missouri State
5 3 24 88 Dave Ragone QB Louisville
6 4 4 101 Domanick Davis RB Louisiana State
7 6 19 192 Drew Henson QB Michigan
8 6 41 214 Keith Wright DT Missouri
9 7 3 217 Curry Burns DB Louisville
10 7 19 233 Chance Pearce C Texas A&M
2002s 1 6 0 0 Milford Brown G Florida State
2002 1 1 1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State
2 2 1 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida
3 2 18 50 Chester Pitts G San Diego State
4 3 1 66 Fred Weary C Tennessee
5 3 18 83 Charles Hill DT Maryland
6 4 1 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State
7 5 1 136 Jarrod Baxter RB New Mexico
8 5 18 153 Ramone Walker DB Pittsburgh
9 6 1 173 Howard Faggins DB Kansas State
10 6 18 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State
11 7 18 229 Greg White DE Minnesota
12 7 50 261 Ahmad Miller DT UNLV

Texans Horror · 09-01-2007

These are the guys who are either IR, PUP, or no longer on the team.
Round Draft No. Name Position University

2007
5 144 Brandon Harrison DB Stanford*
5 163 Brandon Frye OT Virginia Tech
2006
3 65 Charles Spencer T Pittsburgh*
6 170 Wali Lundy RB Virginia
7 251 David Anderson WR Colorado State
2005
3 73 Vernand Morency RB Oklahoma State
5 151 Drew Hodgdon C Arizona State
7 227 Kenneth Pettway LB Grambling State
2004
1 27 Jason Babin OLB Western Michigan
4 122 Glenn Earl SS Notre Dame*
6 170 Vontez Duff CB Notre Dame
6 175 Jammal Lord DB Nebraska
7 210 Raheem Orr DE Rutgers
7 211 Sloan Thomas WR Texas
7 248 B.J. Symons QB Texas Tech
2003
2 41 Bennie Joppru TE Michigan
3 67 Antwan Peek LB Cincinnati
3 75 Seth Wand T Northwest Missouri State
3 88 Dave Ragone QB Louisville
4 101 Domanick Williams RB Louisiana State
6 192 Drew Henson QB Michigan
6 214 Keith Wright DT Missouri
7 217 Curry Burns DB Louisville
7 233 Chance Pearce -- Texas A&M
2002
1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State
2 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida
3 83 Charles Hill NT Maryland
4 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State
5 136 Jarrod Baxter FB New Mexico
5 153 Ramon Walker DB Pittsburgh
6 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State
7 229 Greg White DE Minnesota
7 261 Ahmad Miller -- Nevada-Las Vegas

* - IR/PUP
That's a lot of football players...

What I take from it:
1. This is a "why the Texans have fallen on hard times" argument, but that's 18 drafted and currently playing compared to 33 not playing. 18 out of 51, if my math serves me right. That's not a productive draft or development.
2. The Texans are lousy in the third round. Hopefully Jones breaks the mold, but I am really surprised at how many third-rounders either haven't panned out or are having trouble (Spencer, Morency, Peek, Wand, Ragone, Hill).
3. It's hard to make the team when you are a fifth, sixth, or seventh-rounder. All the more reason to appreciate Faggins' and Brown's ability and at the same time see it as a sign of the weakness of the defensive secondary (i.e., why Babin needed to be traded).
4. I gotta bang the drum for Studdard. It's impressive that the sixth-rounder has lasted this long, but he had a good preseason, is becoming a fan favorite, and is a Longhorn...

BattleRedToro · 09-01-2007

Does anyone think the Texans might pick up Josh Gattis?

The Pencil Neck · 09-01-2007

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Originally Posted by BattleRedToro

Does anyone think the Texans might pick up Josh Gattis?

I'm thinking we might try.

BattleRedToro · 09-02-2007

What about ex Seattle/Green Bay Safety Marquand Manuel? He was cut by Green Bay yesterday. Does anyone know anything about him?

09-01-2007	#23
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Re: The final 2 cuts/moves That means Studdard's in. Woohoo! The Texans are definitely on the up-and-coming now.

09-01-2007	#24
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Re: The final 2 cuts/moves By draft, then, remaining a playing (non-IR/Pup) Texans: 2007 - Okoye, Jones, Bennett, Studdard, Diles 2006 - Mario, Demeco, Captain Caveman (Winston!), Owen Daniels 2005 - TJ, Mathis, CC Brown 2004 - Dunta, Anderson 2003 - AJ 2002 - Pitts, Weary, Faggins Did I miss anybody? 2003 and 2004 - bust years...

09-01-2007	#28
threetoedpete Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Age: 57 Posts: 6,644 Rep Power: 140	Re: The final 2 cuts/moves 2003s 1 2 0 0 Tony Hollings RB Georgia Tech 2003 1 1 3 3 Andre Johnson WR Miami (FL) 2 2 9 41 Ben Joppru TE Michigan 3 3 3 67 Antwan Peek LB Cincinnati 4 3 11 75 Seth Wand T Northwest Missouri State 5 3 24 88 Dave Ragone QB Louisville 6 4 4 101 Domanick Davis RB Louisiana State 7 6 19 192 Drew Henson QB Michigan 8 6 41 214 Keith Wright DT Missouri 9 7 3 217 Curry Burns DB Louisville 10 7 19 233 Chance Pearce C Texas A&M 2002s 1 6 0 0 Milford Brown G Florida State 2002 1 1 1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State 2 2 1 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida 3 2 18 50 Chester Pitts G San Diego State 4 3 1 66 Fred Weary C Tennessee 5 3 18 83 Charles Hill DT Maryland 6 4 1 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State 7 5 1 136 Jarrod Baxter RB New Mexico 8 5 18 153 Ramone Walker DB Pittsburgh 9 6 1 173 Howard Faggins DB Kansas State 10 6 18 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State 11 7 18 229 Greg White DE Minnesota 12 7 50 261 Ahmad Miller DT UNLV __________________ "Everybody understands that the only way we're going to do it is by extremely hard work."

09-01-2007	#29
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Re: The final 2 cuts/moves These are the guys who are either IR, PUP, or no longer on the team. Round Draft No. Name Position University 2007 5 144 Brandon Harrison DB Stanford* 5 163 Brandon Frye OT Virginia Tech 2006 3 65 Charles Spencer T Pittsburgh* 6 170 Wali Lundy RB Virginia 7 251 David Anderson WR Colorado State 2005 3 73 Vernand Morency RB Oklahoma State 5 151 Drew Hodgdon C Arizona State 7 227 Kenneth Pettway LB Grambling State 2004 1 27 Jason Babin OLB Western Michigan 4 122 Glenn Earl SS Notre Dame* 6 170 Vontez Duff CB Notre Dame 6 175 Jammal Lord DB Nebraska 7 210 Raheem Orr DE Rutgers 7 211 Sloan Thomas WR Texas 7 248 B.J. Symons QB Texas Tech 2003 2 41 Bennie Joppru TE Michigan 3 67 Antwan Peek LB Cincinnati 3 75 Seth Wand T Northwest Missouri State 3 88 Dave Ragone QB Louisville 4 101 Domanick Williams RB Louisiana State 6 192 Drew Henson QB Michigan 6 214 Keith Wright DT Missouri 7 217 Curry Burns DB Louisville 7 233 Chance Pearce -- Texas A&M 2002 1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State 2 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida 3 83 Charles Hill NT Maryland 4 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State 5 136 Jarrod Baxter FB New Mexico 5 153 Ramon Walker DB Pittsburgh 6 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State 7 229 Greg White DE Minnesota 7 261 Ahmad Miller -- Nevada-Las Vegas * - IR/PUP That's a lot of football players... What I take from it: 1. This is a "why the Texans have fallen on hard times" argument, but that's 18 drafted and currently playing compared to 33 not playing. 18 out of 51, if my math serves me right. That's not a productive draft or development. 2. The Texans are lousy in the third round. Hopefully Jones breaks the mold, but I am really surprised at how many third-rounders either haven't panned out or are having trouble (Spencer, Morency, Peek, Wand, Ragone, Hill). 3. It's hard to make the team when you are a fifth, sixth, or seventh-rounder. All the more reason to appreciate Faggins' and Brown's ability and at the same time see it as a sign of the weakness of the defensive secondary (i.e., why Babin needed to be traded). 4. I gotta bang the drum for Studdard. It's impressive that the sixth-rounder has lasted this long, but he had a good preseason, is becoming a fan favorite, and is a Longhorn... Last edited by Texans Horror; 09-01-2007 at 09:26 PM.

09-01-2007	#30
BattleRedToro Thread Killer Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 40 Posts: 2,432 Rep Power: 3988	Re: The final 2 cuts/moves Does anyone think the Texans might pick up Josh Gattis? __________________ "Hey fool, this ain't no football game!" - Mr. T

09-02-2007	#32
BattleRedToro Thread Killer Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 40 Posts: 2,432 Rep Power: 3988	Re: The final 2 cuts/moves What about ex Seattle/Green Bay Safety Marquand Manuel? He was cut by Green Bay yesterday. Does anyone know anything about him? __________________ "Hey fool, this ain't no football game!" - Mr. T

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