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Old 06-07-2007   #101
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The problem is that many players and agents could have their opinions of the Texans influenced by the media. They watch the same shows we do on ESPN and NFLN.
I do not discount that as the David Carr years are case in point. Thankfully we have a media savvy coach to control the message and provide a team environment to go along with the facilities and organization that people in the business are inquistive about.
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Why do we want to keep Mathis again?

He hasn't done anything in two years. He's basically become useless, unless giving trainers and team doctors something to do is considered.
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I do not discount that as the David Carr years are case in point. Thankfully we have a media savvy coach to control the message and provide a team environment to go along with the facilities and organization that people in the business are inquistive about.
Indeed. Kubiak is the wildcard in all of this, simply because he's attained a level of respect as a player and coach, and has a nice way of shooting straight with the media and fans. Although some are quickly growing tired of his message ("Schaub has leadership skills" is case in point).
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What I want to know ... is what did he do in the off-season to address this hamstring issue. And how he thinks some problem that didn't heal in the 5-6 months he had after the season, will magically heal in the next 3-4 weeks?
It's not so much a problem that didn't heal in the last 5-6 months, he made it thru 4-5 days of OTAs just fine and then tweaked his hammy again. It is probably an injury that will spring up throughout his career, but it's not like it was a constant injury that was bothering him for the last 6 months that he expects to suddenyl heal.

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could we get anything for him in a trade? 5th round pick? anything? if so, i say pull the trigger on that one...it's not worth the hassle to keep him around
Who is going to give up a 5th round pick for a KR specialist with no proven WR skills to this point and with injury concerns? I don't see how we could get anything for him.
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It's not so much a problem that didn't heal in the last 5-6 months, he made it thru 4-5 days of OTAs just fine and then tweaked his hammy again. It is probably an injury that will spring up throughout his career, but it's not like it was a constant injury that was bothering him for the last 6 months that he expects to suddenyl heal.



Who is going to give up a 5th round pick for a KR specialist with no proven WR skills to this point and with injury concerns? I don't see how we could get anything for him.
You know, I've been wondering if he might have an injury similar to Joppru's or like someone else said, has scar tissue build-up that needs to be removed. Is it serious enough that he should have surgery? It just seems like if he has a recurring problem, maybe there is more wrong than we know.

I recently read an article about a marathon runner that had originally injured his ankle, and due to his compensating for that injury, he ended up having recurrent hamstring issues. What was odd about it was that even though stretching was a treatment, it was predominately used for the non-injured side. They stretched the non-injured side to help even out the runners gait.
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You know, I've been wondering if he might have an injury similar to Joppru's or like someone else said, has scar tissue build-up that needs to be removed. Is it serious enough that he should have surgery? It just seems like if he has a recurring problem, maybe there is more wrong than we know.

I recently read an article about a marathon runner that had originally injured his ankle, and due to his compensating for that injury, he ended up having recurrent hamstring issues. What was odd about it was that even though stretching was a treatment, it was predominately used for the non-injured side. They stretched the non-injured side to help even out the runners gait.

It's very common to have an injury and then that start a chain of other related injuries as you try to compensate for the original problem. Sometimes you'll have a recurring injury in one part of the body and then when you find and fix a problem somewhere else (like a strength imbalance or tear in a stabilizing muscle) and then the recurring injury clears up.

But there's a fine line between peak performance and an injury. For normal trainers, if you work at 50 percent of your max, you'll make progress. (And even then, you can still strain a muscle with light weights.) For an elite athlete, you have to work at over 80 percent of your max. When you're pushing to the limit like that, you're always in danger of things breaking down. For a speed guy like Mathis, the hammies are always going to be on the edge.
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It's not so much a problem that didn't heal in the last 5-6 months, he made it thru 4-5 days of OTAs just fine and then tweaked his hammy again.
That may be worse news than that that he never recovered in the first place. He's got a lot of talent; it will be a shame if his body just can't hold up.
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You know, I've been wondering if he might have an injury similar to Joppru's or like someone else said, has scar tissue build-up that needs to be removed. Is it serious enough that he should have surgery? It just seems like if he has a recurring problem, maybe there is more wrong than we know.

I recently read an article about a marathon runner that had originally injured his ankle, and due to his compensating for that injury, he ended up having recurrent hamstring issues. What was odd about it was that even though stretching was a treatment, it was predominately used for the non-injured side. They stretched the non-injured side to help even out the runners gait.
I'm not aware of pulling a hamstring leading to scar tissue build-up that would require surgery. However, it definitely could lead to recurring problems down the road. Other than his broken foot that he suffered at the Pro Bowl after his rookie season, I'm not aware of him having any additional past injury that could lead to his hamstring problems, and he had hamstring problems his rookie year before he broke that foot.
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I'm not aware of pulling a hamstring leading to scar tissue build-up that would require surgery. However, it definitely could lead to recurring problems down the road. Other than his broken foot that he suffered at the Pro Bowl after his rookie season, I'm not aware of him having any additional past injury that could lead to his hamstring problems, and he had hamstring problems his rookie year before he broke that foot.
if I remember correctly, he had the foot problems lng before it was diagnosed.
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