Luv Ya' Blue!

[Blazing Arrow]

Originally Posted by Overalls

If you understood you would not even type the statement. No self respecting Texan could ever root for that turncoat team.

Don't ask don't tell ... we don't judge fans by state.

[Scooter]

thanks for the pics guerillablack.

maybe i'm just young enough not to care, but for me it's good riddance. we survived a few years without football to be in a better situation. bud didnt take our memories, he didnt take our legends, he didnt take anything but a shade of blue and an oil derrick helmet. we still have the dome. we still have earl campbell. and because of lanier taking a stand, we now have the texans. we have reliant stadium. we have demeco ryans and andre johnson (they have pacman). the only thing we dont have yet is in the win column but i'm not naive enough to think that there wont be rough patches ... we're just getting them out of the way at the beginning. i love the old oilers and always will, but that team retired, they didnt move. the only thing that moved is bud adams, and that's Christmas in houston. the titans are a new team that are trying to impose a history that they dont know. any oilers fan old enough to walk should know who elvin bethea is, however he's a questionmark in tennessee.

Originally Posted by Blazing Arrow

You didn't chose the Texans the Texans chose you!

actually we did choose the texans and chose against bud. of course we like to reminisce about our old team, but we got what we wanted in bob mcnair and the houston texans.

[HARRYJ]

Originally Posted by Blazing Arrow

See deep in your heart you love the Titans. They are not your favorite sibling and you have fought on occasion but they are sill your big brother.

You didn't chose the Texans the Texans chose you!

With Young now on the Titans it's time to forgive and forget. Oiler fans, you are welcome to bring your tenacity back to the true Luv Ya' Blue. We understand why you were hurt and we welcome you back no questions asked.

I don't think I like the tone you have adopted here.

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by Vinny

I may not think that ridiculous traffic and oppressive smog are things that make a town cosmopolitan (I really meant that it was much more cosmopolitan than I perceived before I lived there - not that it's just like Houston or LA). I went to NFL games, saw NHL games, saw big time SEC football every weekend....saw outstanding live entertainment...Nashville radio was outstanding as the rock scene was not on the back burner like I thought it would be (due to the huge country music scene) before I lived there. I didn't miss much living in Goodlettsville (about 15 mins north of the stadium) for a couple of years....would love to move back if I had the right job.

Of course that isn't what makes a city. The people, international culture, among other things make a city. Nashville is a nice American city, though.

[Overalls]

Originally Posted by Blazing Arrow

Don't ask don't tell ... we don't judge fans by state.

RIGHT. Like I don't remember the anti-Texas statements you've made.

[Brando]

Originally Posted by ChildressTitanMan

The only reason the Texans haven't left Houston yet is no city is dumb enough to take them.

Seems your city was dumb enough to take the Oilers and Dud Adams.

[Blazing Arrow]

Originally Posted by Overalls

RIGHT. Like I don't remember the anti-Texas statements you've made.

You know I am better then that. If state hate gets sent at me I can show I can stoop to that level but I am never the first person to start it. I come on these board to talk football not BS stereotyping about the general location someone comes from.

[HARRYJ]

I have seen BA turn pretty quick but on the whole he is here to talk football.

[HARRYJ]

Arrow, check your PM.

[Wolf]

I don't know how accurate or up to date this is.

Adams alienated many fans in Houston with his questionable decisions, including firing the extremely popular Bum Phillips and threatening in 1987 to move the team to Jacksonville, Florida if improvements were not made to the Astrodome. The city agreed to pay $67 million in renovations which included the removal of the iconic center field scoreboard. When the city refused to help finance a new stadium just a few years later, he moved the franchise to Tennessee for the 1997 season. After playing two season as the Tennessee Oilers, they were renamed the Tennessee Titans in 1999. The city of Houston is still paying back the debt from the renovations they made to the Astrodome in 1987.

that is kinda what I remember but the bold part is troubling to me (if it is true)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Texans

But like Earl said, Bud lost leverage to ask for a new stadium after a 2-14 season(esp after the city renovated), you just don't see it happening on any sports level, unless it is an expansion team.

[Blazing Arrow]

The 30 year bond associated witht he renovations is still on the books. Until 2017 I might add.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by ChildressTitanMan

Atypical actually.

Ignoring facts,not reading the post.

Bud:I want a new stadium.

Houston: No way,we're still paying for those luxury boxes & you took away our scoreboard.

Bud:Well then I'm leaving.

Houston:Good riddance.

Time marches on with no football.

Houston:what do we need to get a new football team?

NFL: A new stadium.

Houston: Oh snap

Now that's a sell out

Uhhhhhhh, thats revisionist history.............

(Circa 1988)
Hair Piece: I want to rip out the vaunted pinball machine and add 10,000 seats... or I am moving to Jacksonville..... Oh, and by the way, tax payers of Harris County are going to pay for it....
Mayor: Sure... Lets keep the Oilers here, rather than losing them to Jacksonville....

(Circa 1993/94)
Hair Piece: I want a new stadium and don't care that the renovations to the dome are not paid off yet..... Oh, and by the way, tax payers of Harris County are going to still pay for the renovation AND the new stadium....

Mayor Bob:
I don't think so....

Hair Piece:
Maybe I can use Drayton McClane or the Rockets Owner to partner up with me since I am already despised in this town...

Rockets and Astros Owners: Uh, no... You are flying solo... we're NOT going lie with a dog that has fleas...

Mayor Bob: Well I guess you better figure out a way to finance this deal without the taxpayers flipping the bill one more time...

Hair Piece: Well, no one in this town likes or respects me, so I guess I will have to take the team somewhere, where they want to hand-out corporate welfare...

Mayor McTooth of Nashville: Our citizens have no idea what they are being taxed on anyways... so c'mon bud. We will flip the entire bill for the stadium, you can have ALL of the revenue AND the city will gaurantee sell outs for the first 10 years...

Houston: Good Riddance!! (Nice to see you got that part correct)

Astros: We got our stadium deal done...
Rockets: We got our arena deal done....

Bob McNair: Well, I have $750,000,000.00 to buy a team if we can get a stadium deal done....(stadium deal in place using tax money from rental cars and hotels AND the HLSR kicking in)

NFL: Good job Bob, you now own the 32nd franchise in the NFL

Houston: *rejoices* Well, its been a few years without football, but the reward far outweighs sacrifice - especially knowing that Hair Piece has nothing to do with it....

[Honoring Earl 34]

You know Bud's not getting any younger ... so who's taking over the team when he's gone ?

[GuerillaBlack]

I don't know, but hopefully the new owner is nicer and gives us our records.

[Blazing Arrow]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

I don't know, but hopefully the new owner is nicer and gives us our records.

Currently the Texans hold the record for most sacks allowed in a season and the longest term of an expansion team not to at least make the playoffs.

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by Blazing Arrow

Currently the Texans hold the record for most sacks allowed in a season and the longest term of an expansion team not to at least make the playoffs.

Also, considering the first expansion teams had more benefits than the Texans.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Blazing Arrow

Currently the Texans hold the record for most sacks allowed in a season and the longest term of an expansion team not to at least make the playoffs.

actually you are mistaken. The Eagles hold the record for sacks given up for a team in one year (Cunningham and Jawarski). Carr holds the individual record...but he plays in Carolina now....lord help their poor linemen.

[HARRYJ]

Carr won't be playing in Carolina unless that line get #1 all busted up and then they will deserve what they get!

[Overalls]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

I don't know, but hopefully the new owner is nicer and gives us our records.

We, as Oiler fans, already have the Oiler records. The team died and nolonger exist. The Tennessee Turncoats are a different team living on another teams past. Thus they will never win a Super Bowl till they realize the wrongs we were done. Even when Duds contract with Satan is up and he passes away, that team is doomed.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Blazing Arrow

Currently the Texans hold the record for most sacks allowed in a season and the longest term of an expansion team not to at least make the playoffs.

If you are going to try to use stats, you may want to do research. The Eagles hold the record for allowing the most sacks in a single season AND the Cardinals are second...

*EDIT* I see where Vinny corrected you about the Eagles, but he didnt even make mention that the Cardinals were second on that list.