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Old 12-06-2004   #21
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We may have won back to back, but like many are saying, take a good look at who we beat and who is pounding us in the ground now.

Speaking for myself, we had more 'feel good' games in the first two years.
We saw what was some good talent developing, getting that chemistry working between the players, etc. We waited patiently, praised them for coming along and getting it to gel as a unit.
The process has stalled for whatever reasons and it's hard to watch. Each week the finger seems to point in another direction.
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Old 12-06-2004   #22
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We played much tougher last year with less.
That comment just about sums it up. We have far less injuries, have more player depth and more practice time together as a team. Despite those "advantages" over last season. We manage to not only lose a bunch of games (as was to be expected), but to lose EMBARASSINGLY on a regular basis.

This team has now "given up" completely in 3 games this year! Last year's IR-riddled lineup would WHIP today's team all over the gridiron! How did this team go backwards from that point?

There's no "It's only our 3rd year" explanation that covers going backwards from year two.
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Old 12-06-2004   #23
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We (the team)needs ALOT OF WORK.We are 36 months into the NFL.Anybody who knows ANYTHING about football,shouldnt expect TOO much from a three year old team.If we still make the same mistakes in two years...then its time for changes
3 years man. Think about those years and what three years in the NFL really means. That's three years to in which you had an expansion draft (and unlike the Browns the Texans drafted very well in their expansion draft). That's three years of regular drafting WITH additional picks in the first two. That's two years of being able to play in the free agent race and it's three years to dig through the discards and Canadian football league to find those (very few) overlooked gems.

3 years to build a team sounds like a very short time indeed but it's not. In todays NFL 3 years is an eternity. Teams go from being dominant to being doormats in 3 years. Other teams go from the bottom to the Super Bowl in three years. In year one the Texans were absolutely lacking talent. In year two they were again lacking talent but to a lesser extent. This year they don't have the luxury of being able to say they're just too young. Carr has to carry this team because it has no running game because it has no line. Carr gets sacked and pressured because he has no protection, again because he has no line. The line that the Texans don't have is three years in the making and continues to "learn" and "grow" as it crawls along headed for a completion date sometime this decade. you could put together a friggin Great Pyramid quicker than the Texans have put together their offensive line.

They're working on it and they're moving forward admittedly. The progress at times seems imperceptible but it's there. 3 years isn't an inadequate amount of time to build a team however. It's in my opinion just about right. They shouldn't be contending for the division right now and I'm not saying that they should. Carr shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl and the Texans shouldn't be getting ready for the playoffs. They should have seen a gradual improvement over the course of the season leading to a second half where they played their best football. A slow start should have been expected when considering all of the changes they made before the season but if they were improving at any sort of acceptable rate then they would be playing their best football right now, not their worst.
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3 years man. Think about those years and what three years in the NFL really means. That's three years to in which you had an expansion draft (and unlike the Browns the Texans drafted very well in their expansion draft). That's three years of regular drafting WITH additional picks in the first two. That's two years of being able to play in the free agent race and it's three years to dig through the discards and Canadian football league to find those (very few) overlooked gems.

3 years to build a team sounds like a very short time indeed but it's not. In todays NFL 3 years is an eternity. Teams go from being dominant to being doormats in 3 years. Other teams go from the bottom to the Super Bowl in three years. In year one the Texans were absolutely lacking talent. In year two they were again lacking talent but to a lesser extent. This year they don't have the luxury of being able to say they're just too young. Carr has to carry this team because it has no running game because it has no line. Carr gets sacked and pressured because he has no protection, again because he has no line. The line that the Texans don't have is three years in the making and continues to "learn" and "grow" as it crawls along headed for a completion date sometime this decade. you could put together a friggin Great Pyramid quicker than the Texans have put together their offensive line.

They're working on it and they're moving forward admittedly. The progress at times seems imperceptible but it's there. 3 years isn't an inadequate amount of time to build a team however. It's in my opinion just about right. They shouldn't be contending for the division right now and I'm not saying that they should. Carr shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl and the Texans shouldn't be getting ready for the playoffs. They should have seen a gradual improvement over the course of the season leading to a second half where they played their best football. A slow start should have been expected when considering all of the changes they made before the season but if they were improving at any sort of acceptable rate then they would be playing their best football right now, not their worst.
In my opinion,I really think ONE of our main problems has been the O-Line.Without domination on the front line....you have No running game...No passing game...without those two aspects of the game then you have NOTHING.I havent added up the numbers,but our defense has givin up ALOT of points this year....and the Payton Manning show is coming in this weekend?????Its time for a serious gut check by our defense!We will see what our team is made of come Sunday.
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luckly our O-line always seems to play very good in our house, so maybe D.D can get it going and Carr will have time to throw this time.
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luckly our O-line always seems to play very good in our house, so maybe D.D can get it going and Carr will have time to throw this time.
You are correct about the o-line playing well at our house....question is,if they play well at Reliant.....why do play like you know what away from Reliant? We seem to be a 30 minute team...we either play bad in the first half or good in the first half.....we havent had many full 4 quarters of Texan ball all year.The team as a whole is going to have to bring 4 FULL quarters of football......CAN THEY DO IT??????????
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