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Old 11-22-2004   #21
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I also think its time to look around the league for another running back. I think Davis' first season was great. But now, hes just not getting the job done.
You need to look at the film....over the last 3 games I have watched the film 4 times for each game and I have never seen a O-Line get beat so bad. Sure, DD, could have made some other moves...but when you have 3 300lb guys on your ***, plus 2 LBs...you ain't gonna get JACK...

Now with that said, sure there may be some better backs around and to consider for the draft...but until you get somebodddddddies to block someone, it is not going to matter if you have Earl Campbell or DD...

Watch the tape...you will see, it is not DD, it's the line!!!

This next draft better start in the first round with Line help and it best be on both sides the ball....or we will have 5 years of this ****!
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You need to look at the film....over the last 3 games I have watched the film 4 times for each game and I have never seen a O-Line get beat so bad. Sure, DD, could have made some other moves...but when you have 3 300lb guys on your ***, plus 2 LBs...you ain't gonna get JACK...

Now with that said, sure there may be some better backs around and to consider for the draft...but until you get somebodddddddies to block someone, it is not going to matter if you have Earl Campbell or DD...

Watch the tape...you will see, it is not DD, it's the line!!!

This next draft better start in the first round with Line help and it best be on both sides the ball....or we will have 5 years of this ****!

I agree with you on this,,,o-line is not helping D.D out very much,,,or line doesnt open up and running room for him and doesnt even get push up front, they are dominated ! A good o-line can even make a bad running back look good ! Ours is making a good running back look bad !
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I tend to agree with a statement Vinny made in another thread stating that essentially it's both Davis AND the line. Davis isn't the answer and the line isn't doing it's job.

It's only my opinion and it certianly may be proven wrong over time but I believe that the zone blocking decision was a bad one. I don't know why this isn't happening but it isn't happening. The players may not be able to do it physically, they may not understand it properly, it could be that the job the coaching staff is doing in teaching it is not working. I don't know why they can't do it but it's easy enough to see that they can't. When the teams we play run the ball lanes open and are created. When we run the ball the offensive line collapses into a disjointed pile at the point of the run. There are no lanes to cut back into and there's no discernable hole at the point the runningback is charging towards. It's a complete mess.

Davis isn't a franchise back. I've kind of come to accept that over the course of this season and that's not necessarily a bad thing. He wasn't drafted with franchise back in mind so it's not like we went and grabbed a guy in a high round and are getting 3 yards a carry from someone who won a Heisman Trophy. We don't have a franchise back on our roster. Wells is 3rd string material who makes the team because he plays good special teams. Hollings is a bigtime project taken errantly and can't stay healthy. The man is always inactive for one reason or another.

We simply have no running game. We have a line that can't block and backs that can't run. That's a formula for a sub .500 team and that's what we are and what we will remain until this is addressed. Since running backs have such relatively short NFL lifespans maybe this is not such a problem. A franchise running back is probably the last piece of the puzzle instead of the first and hopefully the Texans will address this in the 2005 draft if ones available. We will certainly be drafting high enough to reach one if we want him at the rate we're going.
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ok i understand what you are saying,,,but do you think even the best RB in the world could run behind this line ???? Gotta have a descent line before we even consider getting a new back,,,they suck at pass protection and run blocking, as we saw last year Davis can get the job done UNTIL we have all the pieces in place to get a franchise back,,,but we neeed to start with the O-line
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Put me in the it's both Davis and the olines camp, like Herv. It's becoming more apparent by the week that the zone blocking scheme isn't working. If they haven't gotten it by now, they won't get it. They never cut off the LB's in pursuit from the weakside, and there are rarely any cutback lanes to cut back into. That was supposed to be DD's stregth. Make one cut, and go, almost like Emmitt Smith. Clearly, it's not working. Many other teams use it to great success. Apparently our mensa's simply cannot grasp the nuances of zone blocking. The first order of business in the offseason is to scrap the zone blocking scheme, and bring back a man to man scheme. Let's do more guard pulling, traps, and the like. Next, we need to decide if DD is THE man, but in the wrong system this year, or if he is simply the third down back the team thought he would be when drafted? Next, is Hollings ever going to bee the back they projected, or will he just be a perputual project? Wells is not in the running to be the future. He is stopgap. If it is decided DD or Hollings is not the answer, the next question is do we pursue a RB in FA, or via the draft? At this point, it seems there are more questions than answers.
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