Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 09-16-2004   #1
Mistril48
All Pro
 
Mistril48's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 548
Rep Power: 11 Mistril48 is ridin' the pine
Default Lions Terrific 12 v. Texan Terrific 12

Old Posting (new posting below)

In a salary cap regime like the NFL, the value of a player is a function of his performance measured against his cap value. A non-expansion NFL team typically drafts 12 players (the “Terrific 12” if you will) in the first 3 rounds over a 4 year period. These 12 players are particularly valuable to a franchise in a salary cap regime, because they typically have much lower cap values than players signed through free agency. For example, Chester Pitts has a 2004 cap value of $705,000, but Steve McKinney has a 2004 cap value of $3,050,000.

Typically, an impact player becomes a free agent after four accrued years and either leaves, or receives his first big free agency contract. Each year, a franchise typically loses 3 first day drafted players to free agency (unless they re-sign the players) and get three replacements through the draft, thereby maintaining their Terrific 12 (in some cases, of course, a player drafted to be a Terrific 12 player won’t work out and a team may end up with less than 12, or a second day drafted player may excel, like Domanick Davis, thereby creating more than 12). McKinney, Bradford, Wong, Smith and Wade are all examples of four year players who got big raises to come to the Texans for their 5th year.

In the 2002 season, the Texans first year, they only had 5 Terrific 12 (1 first, 2 second and 2 third), while all the other teams had 12. Bummer. Unlike the Panthers and the Jaguars, the Texans weren’t given any extra first round picks. Hard to compete.

The good news is the Texans have now caught up, thanks to expansion picks and Charlie Casserly’s astute trades. They now have 12 players who they drafted on the first day. The Texans now have a Terrific 12 like other NFL teams. Good.

New Posting

How about the Texans next opponent, the Detroit Lions. How do their Terrific 12 compare with the Texans?

. . YR . . Texans (only 3 yrs) . . . . . .YR . . Lions (4 yrs)

F . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .‘01 OT Jeff Backus
I. . ’02 . QB David Carr . . . . . . . . . .’02 QB Joey Harrington
R . ’03 .WR Andre Johnson . . . . . . . ‘03 WR Charles Rogers (IR)
S . ’04 . CB Dunta Robinson . . . . . . .’04 WR Roy Williams
T . ’04 . LB Jason Babin . . . . . . . . . .’04 RB Kevin Jones

S . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ’01 OL Dominic Raiola
E . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '01 DT Shaun Rogers
C . ’02 . WR Jabar Gaffney. . . . . . . . .
O . ’02 . OL Chester Pitts . . . . . . . . .'02 DE Kalimba Edwards
N . ’03 . TE Benny Joppru . . . . . . . . .‘03 LB Boss Bailey
D . ’04 . RB Tony Hollings . . . . . . . . .‘04 LB Teddy Lehmen

T . ’02 . OL Fred Weary
H . ’02 . OL Charles Hill (released) . . . 02 DB Andre Goodman
I . ’03. . LB Antwan Peek . . . . . . . . .'03 DE Cory Redding
R . ’03 . OL Seth Wand
D . ’03 . QB Dave Ragone
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .'04 LB Keith Smith

Would you trade our players, above, for their players, above (I believe that the Lions were really helped by the Browns giving up a second round 2004 pick to move up one pick, to take Winslow)?

How did the Texans Terrific 12 do in week 1?

David Carr - 19 of 25 (76.0%) for 229 yds 0 TDs and 2 INT

. . . I was surprised to learn that Carr had the highest completion % in the NFL and his yds/att of 9.16 was 2nd in the AFC.

Andre Johnson - 4 rec. for 59 yds. (14.5 yd ave.)
Jabar Gaffney - 4 rec. for 40 yds. (10.0 yd ave.)

Tony Hollings – 3 rushes for 10 yds and 1 rec. for 27 (4 touches for a 9.2 yd ave.)

Jason Babins – I believe the Texans (as opposed to the NFL stats) had Babins with 9 tackles and 4 pressures.

I believe that Chester Pitts and Seth Wand also played well as the left side of our line.

Old Posting

And the news gets better for the Texans. In 2005, the Texans should keep all of their Terrific 12 (none will have four accrued years) and add 4 new members through the 2005 draft (1 first, 1 second and 2 thirds), giving them a total of 16 Terrific 12. Great news!
Mistril48 is offline   Reply With Quote
 

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger