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Old 07-08-2014   #361
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Fugitive Agrees to Be Photographed for Newspaper’s Redskins Article, Gets Caught


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Bloomsburg University student Jacob (“Jake”) Close, 25, gave his opinion about the Redskins name controversy to the Bloomsburg (PA) Press Enterprise on June 30. (“I think they should keep the same name, but change the mascot to a potato,” he said.) Close agreed to be photographed for the paper’s feature, which I’m guessing he now regrets.

The Mass Comm student was wanted by Ithaca police for bail jumping in a years-old drug/DUI-related case. “Campus police had been looking for Close for more than a month after being notified by Ithaca City Police in late May,” the Press Enterprise reports. A campus cop saw Close’s picture in the “Your Opinion” column last Monday and staked out the student’s blue Honda. The officer got his man on Sunday afternoon.
I was thinking it was Diane or Dale.
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I like his mascot idea. Keep calling them the Redskins but change their mascot to a red potato? That's the kind of outside the box thinking that's needed here. Lets see somebody get upset about the Washington Redskins name when it's clearly meant to describe a root vegetable.

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Yes, no one ever despises their "nasty" enemies.

Just like those "nasty" enemy Redskins, Pirates and Buccaneers were never despised and were looked up to by everyone for being such honorable men. I am sure the people in the Carolinas also love and look forward to hurricanes so much that they named their NHL team after that enjoyable weather phenomenon.

Also I am quite sure no one in New Jersey despises the Devil since he is such an honorable creature. Now technically the team was named after the legendary "New Jersey Devil" who supposedly terrorized the residents of New Jersey in the 1800's however must have won the affection of the citizens there since they named their NHL team after him.

Did anyone name a team "Pirates" or "Buccaneers" when those two groups were making the high seas a dangerous place? Now lets just leave the current Somali Pirates situation out of this and talk about the Pirates and Buccaneers that are the actual focus of those names. Those names were used long after anyone with first hand knowledge of Pirates and Buccaneers had ceased to draw breath and named after a romanticized idea of what they were like. That can almost be said about the Redskins. The name is what it is but the symbolism associated with the Washington Redskins clearly is not disparaging or negative. Misguided perhaps but there is no drunken "injun" on the side of the helmet and they don't reenact raids with pretend settlers being killed at halftime. They're trying to work the whole "Noble Indian" angle. Like I said maybe misguided in this day and age but certainly not disparaging in intent or practice.

They should just change it anyway to put an end to all the "sand-in-the-vagina crybaby caterwauling". That or change the mascot to a red potato. I'd give anything to see that. Put a big red potato on the side of the helmet with a press release telling everyone protesting to now STFU.
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I like his mascot idea. Keep calling them the Redskins but change their mascot to a red potato? That's the kind of outside the box thinking that's needed here. Lets see somebody get upset about the Washington Redskins name when it's clearly meant to describe a root vegetable.

Problem solved.
Or maybe a Reddish (oops, I meant Radash).
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That's the kind of outside the box thinking that's needed here...
Yeah, but he's in a box now.
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Washington Post Editorial Board announced today it will not use the word "Redskins" in its editorials anymore.
still not gonna make Snyder change the name...

I don't think this is a battle that the media is gonna win...
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A former NFL referee told The Washington Post that he requested not to work home or away games for the Washington Redskins due to the team's controversial nickname.

Mike Carey, who retired after the 2013 season following 24 years in the league, says he requested off Washington's games beginning with the 2006 season because it became clear to him that "something disrespectful" was happening and being on the field "probably (was) not the best thing for me."

"Human beings take social stances," Carey, the first African-American referee to work a Super Bowl, told the newspaper. "And if you're respectful of all human beings, you have to decide what you're going to do and why you're going to do it.

"In America we've learned that respect is the most important thing that you have. I learned it from my parents, my schools, from my faith. And when you learn there's something that might not be as respectful as you like, when you come to terms with it, you have to do something about it."

"I know that if a team had a derogatory name for African-Americans, I would help those who helped extinguish that name. I have quite a few friends who are Native Americans. And even if I didn't have Native American friends, the name of the team is disrespectful."

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I'm Native American. Call me a skin to my face and its on.
Better than that. I'm a native TEXAN!

As such, I demand the return of sovereignty from the US who forced a reunion by force of arms.
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Better than that. I'm a native TEXAN!

As such, I demand the return of sovereignty from the US who forced a reunion by force of arms.
What in the world does that have to do with Yvette's comment or this topic in general?
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[quote=Hookem Horns;2372531]What in the world does that have to do with Yvette's comment or this topic in general?[/QUOTE

She said "I'm Native American. Call me a skin to my face and its on." I expanded on that to identify as a Native Texan with my loyalty to my STATE and a desire to return to National Sovereignty! Seemed like a natural expansion of her post to me. But I did digress from the PC nature of the thread. We all HAVE TO HATE Redskins as a name to be PC. But nobody ever confused me with being PC.
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She said she was a native American. I expanded on that to identify as a Native Texan with my loyalty to my STATE and a desire to return to National Sovereignty! Seemed like a natural expansion of her post to me.
Her point was is that she is NA and don't call her redskin to her face because it's offensive to her.

Now if you would have said, I am a Native Texan so don't call me dumbass redneck Texan because that would be offensive ... that would go with this discussion.
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My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw a Native American at 31 Flavors last night. Does that make me Indian?
I had a direct ancestor who married an Indian Woman from a civilized Chickasaw tribe in 1725. Unfortunately, I don't have a name for my 13th great grandmother who makes me 1/2064th Native American.
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What in the world does that have to do with Yvette's comment or this topic in general?[/QUOTE

She said "I'm Native American. Call me a skin to my face and its on." I expanded on that to identify as a Native Texan with my loyalty to my STATE and a desire to return to National Sovereignty! Seemed like a natural expansion of her post to me. But I did digress from the PC nature of the thread. We all HAVE TO HATE Redskins as a name to be PC. But nobody ever confused me with being PC.
Just curious - does your family history go back to Texas independence or nationhood?
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I had a direct ancestor who married an Indian Woman from a civilized Chickasaw tribe in 1725. Unfortunately, I don't have a name for my 13th great grandmother who makes me 1/2064th Native American.
I am a Native Texan also, my ancestors migrated to Texas in 1840. My great grandfather was a cattle rancher in central Texas and married a Cherokee woman who was my great grandmother. I think I even posted pictures of them in this thread somewhere. Regardless, that has little to do with this topic.

I remember being offended in the mid 90's when the Confederate flag became offensive and it started being demonized. I grew up being proud of being a decedent of Texas Confederate veterans and was always fascinated with that war. I was even a re-enactor for a few years and had the Confederate flag on many things like my car, etc. The thought that it was offensive to black people never crossed my mind. Anyway, come to find out many black people see that flag and think of the Klan, etc. I had to learn to respect that back then.

Times change. My grandmother just passed away a few months ago at the age of 92. To the day she died she called black people "niggras". That word at one time was acceptable with her generation. There is no denying that our generation shouldn't be using that word today.

Yvette is telling you as a Native American that the word redskin is a slur and shouldn't be used. Just learn to respect that, the way I had to learn to respect that many black people don't like the Confederate flag. I could have insisted that black people shouldn't be offended by the Confederate flag however that wouldn't change the fact that it still offends them.
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Just curious - does your family history go back to Texas independence or nationhood?
Yes. I have ties to the Republic of Texas as well as the founding of the United States. My earliest "immigrant" arrived in 1630, had a child born in Swansea in 1635, and was killed by "Peaceful" Indians in Delaware bay in 1644. My last "Immigrant" arrived in 1830 from Ireland.
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Yes. I have ties to the Republic of Texas as well as the founding of the United States. My earliest "immigrant" arrived in 1630, had a child born in Swansea in 1635, and was killed by "Peaceful" Indians in Delaware bay in 1644. My last "Immigrant" arrived in 1830 from Ireland.
I asked about Texas not the US but ok. Part of that question was I knew Hookem and I (and I believe double barrel) have ties back that far actually pre-republic.

What's with the quotation mark immigrants?
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Just curious - does your family history go back to Texas independence or nationhood?
They migrated to Texas in 1840, so during nationhood. They missed the war by 4 years. They came from Overton County, TN.

They were not in Texas for the War of Independence however many of them were horse soldiers with the Williamson County Grays during the Civil War. I also have a great great uncle that was a Colonel in the 5th Texas. He is on the Texas Gettysburg Monument at the Round Tops.

As I mentioned in the post above, it's why I grew up such a big Civil War buff. I always hated the fact that Texas in general today has really distanced itself from that war mainly due to PC stuff. The Texas Brigade had a lot of heroic moments during that war. They were Lee's favorite brigade. He called them the "Son's of the Alamo" and always bragged how the Texans would never run.

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I am more interested in how folks treat me not what they call me. I don't know of anyone when speaking of the Washington Redskins are being disrespectful. They are identifying a team or player. Yes racism exists and there are incidents/occurances (sp) or whatever but we all need to lighten up just a bit.
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