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Old 06-14-2014   #1401
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I'll believe it when I see it. Anything less than 8-8 against this schedule would mean all this is the honeymoon chatter. I'll believe the culture has been changed when we win those tough close games.

Until then, they're still soft. All this yak about tough & culture change reminds me of the letterman jackets without the props.
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I'll believe it when I see it. Anything less than 8-8 against this schedule would mean all this is the honeymoon chatter. I'll believe the culture has been changed when we win those tough close games.

Until then, they're still soft. All this yak about tough & culture change reminds me of the letterman jackets without the props.
TK, have a hard day Buddy? It may be just chatter, we'll all see it when/if the implosion occurs. He's certainly a hard ass, right now. That's what I personally have been concerned about but I think right now it's a big front. He'll always have a hard edge but I think you'll see a different guy and get different feedback on him.

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It would certainly be nice if someone made a suggestion that when OB has a conference, the Texans would shell out for a microphone arrangement that would allow the watcher/listener to hear the questions presented by the reporters.
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It would certainly be nice if someone made a suggestion that when OB has a conference, the Texans would shell out for a microphone arrangement that would allow the watcher/listener to hear the questions presented by the reporters.
Yeah, that would just be unheard-of-nice.
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I'll believe it when I see it. Anything less than 8-8 against this schedule would mean all this is the honeymoon chatter. I'll believe the culture has been changed when we win those tough close games.



Until then, they're still soft. All this yak about tough & culture change reminds me of the letterman jackets without the props.

Fair point. But, at the very least, we will see some kind of hardening of this team. Teams tend to take on the personality of its head coach. The way O'Brien comes off, I'm looking forward to a no-bs football team.
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I'm trying to temper my expectations for O'Brien, but I have to say I like the way he operates. Even if he flames out tragically, he has a vision, a plan and a well thought-out and serious approach to it.
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Fair point. But, at the very least, we will see some kind of hardening of this team. Teams tend to take on the personality of its head coach. The way O'Brien comes off, I'm looking forward to a no-bs football team.
Me too... I just think all this reporting about changes to our team's culture is more wishful thinking than actual reporting.

Andre hasn't even shown up yet.
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Me too... I just think all this reporting about changes to our team's culture is more wishful thinking than actual reporting.

Andre hasn't even shown up yet.
Andre not showing up yet hardly has anything to do with the change of the team. AJ is one man, and he made his mind up before OTAs. I think we will see a more physical team on Sundays than we saw in the past.
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Andre not showing up yet hardly has anything to do with the change of the team. AJ is one man, and he made his mind up before OTAs. I think we will see a more physical team on Sundays than we saw in the past.
There is no doubt the team will be different from what we've been seeing the last few years of the Kubiak regime. I think physical is one of those things, I think a much more aggressive and risk taking defense and a more basic by-the-books offense is in store for us this season.
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Me too... I just think all this reporting about changes to our team's culture is more wishful thinking than actual reporting.

Andre hasn't even shown up yet.
I really don't think the culture is that much different. We had a culture of hard work set by the owner and it's still there. Now there is optimism under OB which was also there only one year ago under Kubiak with the exception of those anticipating failure at every turn because of their own personality.

That will continue under any coach because it's not about the coach or the team. It's about the different natures of fans. Some are always optimistic, some are always pessimistic and some fall in the middle to varying degrees. I lean toward the optimistic myself, but not blindly so.
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There is no doubt the team will be different from what we've been seeing the last few years of the Kubiak regime. I think physical is one of those things, I think a much more aggressive and risk taking defense and a more basic by-the-books offense is in store for us this season.
I always wondered why the debate has been between working harder vs working smarter. I prefer working harder AND smarter.
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I always wondered why the debate has been between working harder vs working smarter. I prefer working harder AND smarter.
^^^^This. And evidently OB does also.
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Andre not showing up yet hardly has anything to do with the change of the team. AJ is one man, and he made his mind up before OTAs. I think we will see a more physical team on Sundays than we saw in the past.
We were pretty physical when Kubiak's team was healthy... think way back to Duane Brown cracking James Harrison's skull. Eric Winston mauling folks on the right side. & Arian leading the league in rushing TDs.

The next year, there were some growing pains, but we still ran the ball when we wanted to run the ball, all the way up to a 12-4 season. We were a very physical team on both sides of the ball until Newton got hurt in Detroit & Cushing got hurt, again.

Just getting a healthy Newton & replacing Wade could very well make this the physical team we used to be....... & finally finding a replacement for Vonta Leech.

Remember all the, "We're not soft!!" talk? They don't need to get more "physical" they were already a physical team, that's what I'm trying to say. Meet the new team, same as the old team.

OB will have done something when they win more of those 7 point or less games than not, or when they're not embarrassed in Prime Time, or when they hand someone their arse when they start talking about, "My house"
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A "gentle hint."

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I really don't think the culture is that much different. We had a culture of hard work set by the owner and it's still there. Now there is optimism under OB which was also there only one year ago under Kubiak with the exception of those anticipating failure at every turn because of their own personality.

That will continue under any coach because it's not about the coach or the team. It's about the different natures of fans. Some are always optimistic, some are always pessimistic and some fall in the middle to varying degrees. I lean toward the optimistic myself, but not blindly so.
If the culture of the team is the same then why did McNair want a HC that would bring a tougher team. Why is it last offseason McNair said he wantedcthe team to be tougher meantally and physically.

The differences in these HC's philosophies is Kubiak was from the Walsh tree, (Mentally sharp, very little hitting) vs the Parcells,BB tree. BOB (Lots of hitting and an emphasis on ST's)
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If the culture of the team is the same then why did McNair want a HC that would bring a tougher team. Why is it last offseason McNair said he wantedcthe team to be tougher meantally and physically.

The differences in these HC's philosophies is Kubiak was from the Walsh tree, (Mentally sharp, very little hitting) vs the Parcells,BB tree. BOB (Lots of hitting and an emphasis on ST's)
They're still in shorts... ain't no culture change.

Hopefully there will be, but little league lockers is all we've got so far.
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That quote says that we had no real leaders in the locker room to demand that type of effort/discipline/toughness during last season. Perpetual winners have that discipline and drive to excel from within themselves.

And since O'Brien hasn't really brought in anyone of note (and that's stretching it) but Fitzpatrick....
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