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Old 06-13-2014   #81
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Isn't that what they said about Kubiak as well?
Kubiak couldn't fix Carr. But he did an OK job with Schaub before the foot injury. I'm sure he'll end up helping Flacco. I just don't think he was a NFL head coach.
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2011 and all this time and yates hasn't learned much everytime he's had his chances. as far as keenum, many are wondering if he's learned anything either. time will tell and still think yates will be cut.
yates playing time since 2011:

2012 - none
2013 - 1 half of football in an out of control game

So where's all this playing time Yates has had to show what he's learned?
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yates playing time since 2011:

2012 - none
2013 - 1 half of football in an out of control game

So where's all this playing time Yates has had to show what he's learned?
You want to check the records again.
Yates played in 3 games in 2012, and 2 games in 2013.

The additional learning comes from being the second string QB who would see some snaps with the first string each week and all the reps with the second string instead of running the scout team.

By starting 6 full games in 2012, Yates got plenty of times with the first string already.
While Case was busy running the scout team for over a year, Yates had the time to learn and take mental reps within Kubiak's offense.

Coming in those second half situTions, he would see more backups from the opponents than normally.

Those are times to learn like Schaub did in Atlanta, when he was the backup.

The games are supposed to be easier, yet he still made mistakes after mistakes.

Did you listen or read what he had to say about last year?
He said he blew his chance.
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Yates took 50 snaps in 3 games in 2013 and 23 snaps in 4 games in 2012.
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It would have been nice to see Tj for eight games, couldn't have been much worse than 0-8. What little bit of Yates we did see didn't look too bad to me. 2 INTs in a game we were getting our butts handed to us any way...

But he was throwing the ball well, & working the offense.
Sure, if you count throwing to the opponents as good throws.
Working the offense is to get the ball to a wide open Walter who was calling for it right in front of him, not keeping the ball and try to run with it only to lose it on a fumble.

3 INTs and a lost fumble with 3 sacks in 32 attempts.
That's the equivalence of at least 48 INTs and 48 sacks over the course of one full season, at the minimum.
That is unless the offense consists.of just running the ball.
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Yates took 50 snaps in 3 games in 2013 and 23 snaps in 4 games in 2012.
I don't count kneeling down to end a game or the equivalence as a snap.
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I don't count kneeling down to end a game or the equivalence as a snap.
Have you ever knelt down as a QB in a college NFL game? It's not easy.

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Isn't that what they said about Kubiak as well?
Yes, they did. We're trying again. It's all part of the giving the new coach slack his first year. Right now I'm an O'Brien fan, just like I was once a Kubiak fan. Kubiak tried to screw me without Vaseline and now I hate him. If O'Brien does that, then I'll hate him.

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.
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Have you ever knelt down as a QB in a college NFL game? It's not easy.

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Yes, they did. We're trying again. It's all part of the giving the new coach slack his first year. Right now I'm an O'Brien fan, just like I was once a Kubiak fan. Kubiak tried to screw me without Vaseline and now I hate him. If O'Brien does that, then I'll hate him.

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.
Tried to or did?
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Yes, they did. We're trying again. It's all part of the giving the new coach slack his first year. Right now I'm an O'Brien fan, just like I was once a Kubiak fan. Kubiak tried to screw me without Vaseline and now I hate him. If O'Brien does that, then I'll hate him.

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.
Soooo........, are you saying if he had vaseline it would've been okay?

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Sure, if you count throwing to the opponents as good throws.
Working the offense is to get the ball to a wide open Walter who was calling for it right in front of him, not keeping the ball and try to run with it only to lose it on a fumble.

3 INTs and a lost fumble with 3 sacks in 32 attempts.
That's the equivalence of at least 48 INTs and 48 sacks over the course of one full season, at the minimum.
That is unless the offense consists.of just running the ball.
That is the oldest mistake in the book. You can't extrapolate things like this from such a small sample size under extraordinary situations.
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I think McNair had his eye on a particular Gamecock & wanted to make sure we were in position to nab him.
That was your first mistake.
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That is the oldest mistake in the book. You can't extrapolate things like this from such a small sample size under extraordinary situations.
IMO, a coach wants to see progress from year to year.

I believe that if Yates had not make those mental mistakes, he would have gotten the starts, not Keenum.

That said, everyone gets a clean slate.
I hope they all improve and I will cheer for the ones on the 53-man roster.
It's a game and I like to enjoy it rather than to see them struggling.
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So if Winston could read and write, you'd be OK with him?
No. Did you miss the whole rapist part?
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Yates took 50 snaps in 3 games in 2013 and 23 snaps in 4 games in 2012.
exactly which breaks down to:

5 snaps in 4 games for 2013..

Lol at him counting "mental" reps. People watching the team during training camp get mental reps...guess we can count them all as having gotten plenty of time to learn how to play qb in the NFL too then huh?
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exactly which breaks down to:

5 snaps in 4 games for 2013..

Lol at him counting "mental" reps. People watching the team during training camp get mental reps...guess we can count them all as having gotten plenty of time to learn how to play qb in the NFL too then huh?
They don't have the playbook. So it (watching the team) doesn't count if you don't know what you're looking at.

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exactly which breaks down to:

5 snaps in 4 games for 2013..
You missed an important Zero after the number 5.

If Yates had made that many mistakes in just 5 snaps, I doubted that he's still with the team.
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Yates, no brainer. He was only drafted because he ran the same system Gary used, in Butch Davis offense in NC. Case has a bigger upside, and could be thrown in for a wrinkle (wildcat style) if they wanted. It will be Yates.
So it is ...
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