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Old 02-14-2014   #561
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IMO we have the personnel more fit for a 4-3 base defense. i think watt would be most natural as an end in base packages, having the option of moving inside on passing downs. moving watt inside would allow him a shorter path to the quarterback that he's thrived with, and give a specialist like mercilus more chances to have an impact. brooks reed could play a Sam linebacker better than he has as a rush OLB. we'd need to go hard at 4 positions - DE (unless mercilus figures it out), 2 DT's and Will linebacker. that seems like a lot and it is. however if we stay at 3-4, especially in a 2 gap system we have only watt and cushing who can play, though watt could potentially lose some of his impact.
I actually agree with this. I tend to think that a base nickel defense is the way to go in today's NFL.

.....SDE - Smith.....DT - Watt.....NT - Mitchell.....WDE - Mercilus

...............SLB - ?.........................MLB - Cushing....................Nickel - ?

CB - Jackson..........SS - Swearinger..........FS - Manning..........CB - Joseph
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WHAT ABOUT WATT?

David E. Klutho/SI/The MMQBJ.J. Watt (David E. Klutho/SI/The MMQB)
My mock draft has been defense oriented, but I've been considering Barr at the elephant position (what I called the weakside OLB). I haven't considered Watt in this role - and I like it. I'll have to reconsider my mock to include a second DE to take Watt's current position. I like Stephon Tuitt in this role, but this would be a reach.
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Houston Texans: Insights into the Defense of Romeo Crennel
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In a conversation with former Patriot and inside linebacker Ted Johnson, the evening host on Sports Radio 610 in Houston, he said this preference even extends to the second level. “Crennel likes an ‘old school’ 3-4: big middle linebackers and big outside linebackers who can jam receivers and drop into pass coverage.”

Johnson, Tedy Bruschi and Mike Vrabel, now the Texans linebackers coach, all were in the 250-pound range.
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Would using a 4-3 front better utilize the players Houston already has under contract? Ted Johnson believes that is the case: "The (current) personnel on the Texans doesn’t come close to fitting what Crennel likes to do. I’d put Brooks Reed at middle linebacker and shift him to the strong side. Then put your best cover guy, Brian Cushing, on the open side of the field. Place Whitney Mercilus over the tight end, then sign free agents or draft the players needed to fill in the D-line.”
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However, Johnson warned: "Can Mike Vrabel teach these guys to be better outside linebackers? To me, they are what they are. Mike was a great football player, but I don’t know that he’s going to turn them into these great pass-rushers."
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Seth Payne, co-host of MaD Radio on Sports Radio 610 and a 10-year NFL veteran at nose tackle, is certain that if the Texans do not get the most out of their best defensive asset, there is only one place else to turn: "If you want a defensive end to anchor in and read and react, you can find players to do it a lot cheaper than what J.J. Watt will get in his next contract. And if you are not used to getting a lot of production of defensive linemen, you have to get it out of your outside linebackers."

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So RAC is flexible...
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A big concern about two-gapping is whether it will negate the playmaking ability of J.J. Watt. Seth Payne, co-host of MaD Radio on Sports Radio 610 and a 10-year NFL veteran at nose tackle, spoke with me about why these details matter: “People care too much about the alignment when talking about the 3-4 vs. the 4-3. But in this case you should. This is an old school 3-4 where you shouldn’t expect a lot of production out of your nose tackle and defensive ends.”
The abundance of “old school” references implies that Rac has not learned any tricks of the trade during his three decades in the game. When his Kansas City Chiefs were facing the New Orleans Saints and their high-octane passing attack in 2012, he threw out the playbook in the first half and went with a “psycho front.”
Employing only two down linemen and three linebackers, he went with a dime package on almost every down.
Good.

And for the record, the only stat Watt should concern himself with are wins.
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Good.

And for the record, the only stat Watt should concern himself with are wins.
Exactly - wins is the only thing that gets a team to the Super Bowl.
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Matt Chatum Gives Insight On Romeo Crennel, Texans Possible Draft Pick
  • Covers a lot of ground in this interview, but it sounds like we won't be going to traditional 3-4 (vs. hybrid) without a 330+ lbs. NT.
  • Antonio Smith looks like a guy that can play in either scheme.
  • Crennel has a really good understanding of what's going on in your front seven. Not beholden to one particular philosophy, can go in and out of 4-3 fronts, tilt/stack and whatever.
  • RAC's persona as much as his Xs & Os what was so valuable.
  • Less aggressive with blitz packages.
  • As for Watt's production, more than half the time -- OB said 70% -- we'll be in subpackages.
  • On Mike Vrabel -- very bright guy, very passionate, knows both sides of a defense
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Actually Raji is one of the worst according to PFF.

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Antonio Smith was fairly ineffective and disappointing playing in Frank Bush's 4-3. AS is clearly much better as a 3-4 DE.
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Actually Raji is one of the worst according to PFF.

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Antonio Smith was fairly ineffective and disappointing playing in Frank Bush's 4-3. AS is clearly much better as a 3-4 DE.
Who wasn't "ineffective and disappointing playing in Frank Bush's 4-3"?
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I actually agree with this. I tend to think that a base nickel defense is the way to go in today's NFL.

.....SDE - Smith.....DT - Watt.....NT - Mitchell.....WDE - Mercilus

...............SLB - ?.........................MLB - Cushing....................Nickel - ?

CB - Jackson..........SS - Swearinger..........FS - Manning..........CB - Joseph
God please remove Mitchell from that lineup, please!
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Actually Raji is one of the worst according to PFF.

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Antonio Smith was fairly ineffective and disappointing playing in Frank Bush's 4-3. AS is clearly much better as a 3-4 DE.
I think Antonio is an undersized UT.... 3-tech, a DT. Not a DE. He was more productive in Wade's 3-4 because Wade used him more like a 4-3 UT.

Just my opinion, but he's more John Randle than Jared Allen.
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I think Antonio is an undersized UT.... 3-tech, a DT. Not a DE. He was more productive in Wade's 3-4 because Wade used him more like a 4-3 UT.

Just my opinion, but he's more John Randle than Jared Allen.
Ninja was just as successful in Arizona's 3-4, that's why Texans signed him as a FA. Unfortunately in Bush's 4-3 he was not nearly as a successful, another failed overpaid FA. Wade and his 3-4 revived Ninja's career.

In AZ and w/ Wade, Ninja's primary responsibility was attack the QB/football. With Bush it was stop the run which is not really Ninja's forte'.
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Patriots legend McGinest on the “Elephant” position
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“You have to be talented, you have to be tough, because you have to be able to take on the linemen and fullbacks and tight ends and play in the trenches vs. the run game,” McGinest said. “So you have to be sturdy and strong enough and tough enough to handle that, but you also have to be agile, and smart enough to be able to read coverages and drop back into coverages and understand different receiver sets and motions and be able to read different formations. It’s not easy.”

That would seem obvious since that the Pats haven’t really found anyone that’s had the same impact as McGinest at the position, save for Mike Vrabel.

But let’s backpedal a bit. At 6-foot-5, 270 pounds, McGinest fit the physical prototype for the elephant, which basically is a linebacker/defensive end hybrid.

“When I came out (of college), I was a ’tweener,” McGinest said. “I was small, as in having the right weight for a defensive end. But I was a big, big linebacker. So you’re kind of an undersized D-end, but a big, big linebacker. Charles Haley (Dallas and San Francisco) was another in that so-called elephant mold where you rush like a D-end, and you also drop into coverage and play linebacker.”

“There’s guys out there who have come out of college and done it in the past, like Shawne Merriman and Mike Vrabel. Vrabel was an example of an end who came off the edge, and then he came to us, and did a lot of different things. It’s just a matter of finding the right guy and having them play the way you want in your system.”
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Sounds like Michael Sam.
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God please remove Mitchell from that lineup, please!
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Also just because Mercilus was a 1st rd draft pick doesn't mean he's any good. He should be a rotational player at best.
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Sounds like Scott Crichton or Marcus Smith to me.

Does Trent Murphy remind anybody else of Vrabel coming out of college?
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Sounds like Scott Crichton or Marcus Smith to me.

Does Trent Murphy remind anybody else of Vrabel coming out of college?
Kinda sounds like a lot of guys to be honest. Kareem Martin could fit into that equation with his size,arms,and boxing background.

What's funny about vrabel is people forgot he flamed out in pittsburgh.
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Stumbled onto this RAC defensive summary*. I noted where he was Head Coach vs. just DC...

Romeo Crennel's Defensive Coordinator Resume
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New Texans head coach Bill O'Brien [hied] Romeo Crennel for his defensive coordinator position. Here are the results of 12 seasons of defense under Crennel's direction. HC = Head Coach
2000 CLE 3-13 record, 27th in points, 26th in yards (3-4), 20th in TO’s forced(42sacks, 13th in NFL)26th in 3rd down defense.

2001 NE 11-5 6th in points 26th in yards (4-3), 8th in TO’s forced(39sacks, 15th)15th in 3rd down defense.

2002 NE 9-7 17th in points, 23rd in yards (4-3), 14th in TO’s forced(33 sacks,20th)26th in 3rd down defense.

2003 NE 14-2 1st in points 7th in yards (4-3), 2nd in TO’s forced(41sacks,6th) 7th in 3rd down defense.

2004 NE 14-2 2nd in points 9th in yards (3-4), 3rd in TO’s forced (45sacks,5th)21st in 3rd down defense.

2005 CLE/HC 6-10 11th in points, 16th in yards (3-4), 25th in TO’s forced(23sacks,32nd)25th in 3rd down defense

2006 CLE/HC 4-12 22nd in points 30th in yards (3-4), 18th in TO’s forced(28 sacks,27th)27th in 3rd down defense

2007 CLE/HC 10-6 21st in points 31st in yards (3-4), 19th in TO’s forced(28sacks,27th)8th in 3rd down defense

2008 CLE/HC 4-12 16th in points 26th in yards (3-4), 3rd in TO’s forced (17 sacks,30th)32nd in 3rd down defense

2010 KC 10-6 11th in points 14th in yards, 23rd in TO’s forced (38sacks,12th)13th in 3rd down defense.

2011 KC/HC 4-12 12th in points 11th in yards, 13th in TO’s forced (29 sacks, 27th)8th in 3rd down defense.

2012 KC/HC 2-14 25th in points 20th in yards, 31st in turnovers forced (27sacks,29th)19th in 3rd down defense.

Summary: Romeo Crennel DC File 12 seasons
3rd Down Defense: Below League Average 7 times(5 in Bottom 10), Above League average 4 times(3 Top 10), League Average once.

Sacks: Above League Average 3 times(2 in Top 10), Below League Average 7 times (6 in Bottom 10), League Average twice.

Turnovers: Above League Average 6 times (4in Top 10), Below League Average 6 times (4 in Bottom 10)

Points Allowed: Above League Average 6 times (3 in Top 10), Below League Average 5 times (3 in bottom 10) 1 Time League Average.

Yards Allowed: 4 times Above League Average (2 Top 10) 7 times Below League Average (6 Bottom 10) 1 League Average.
- Crennel has coached both a 4-3 and 3-4 front in his career though the vast majority of his teams used a 3 man front.

- Crennel's 3-4 is a 2 gap system which partially explains why he has never had a DL go for more than 8 sacks in a given year.
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(on the nose tackle position in the 3-4 defense) “To play the 3-4 defense, you have to be good down the middle. That starts with the nose. Hopefully you can get a guy that commands double teams because if he commands double teams, then someone is going to be free. We tell them that you have to command the double team and then beat the double team at the line of scrimmage to get somebody free because if you get double teamed and get knocked five yards back, chances are someone is not going to be free and there is going to be a big hole in the defense. Nose is critical. He has to be able to win one-on-one, force the double team and then not get killed on the double team. Then that allows the linebackers behind him to be good. It allows the free safety down the middle of the field to be good. Therefore, it allows you to be good down the middle. Because of the way we play the technique, generally we’ve had bigger guys to be along that front. Then we try to put the more athletic guys on the edge of the defense to let them make plays there.”

(on what he’s seen from Jadeveon Clowney) “I think he is coming along fine. He is studious. He is studying and he’s trying to learn the system. He is making that transition a little bit, but it doesn’t seem to slow him down or hinder him. He’s still a rookie and I tell everyone, rookies are making rookie mistakes. That is what they do. Until he can get settled and feel confident in all of his assignments, and then he can become reactive, then I think he will show better at that time. Right now his head is spinning just like all of the rookies. Their heads are spinning because we’ve thrown a lot at them. They are working at it and they make their mistakes and learn. They come back the next day, try to improve and don’t make the same mistakes again.”

(on a timetable for Jadeveon Clowney’s development) “There is no real timetable. Everyone learns differently. Everyone goes at a different rate. We’re going to teach him as hard as we can and if he studies as hard as he can, then it will be sooner rather than later. We all know that we are going to play games in the fall, so we would like for him to be ready by then for sure. We’ll just keep working with him and he’s making progress.”

(on Brian Cushing and his missing time while recovering from injury) “He seems to be pretty sharp at picking things up. He’s been in the meetings. He’s got some terminology and he can make some calls and things like that. I don’t think the meetings can replace being on the field and getting it first-hand. Things happen pretty quick out there on the field. You have to be able to get used to the tempo of the field. When you’re not out there, you can’t get used to that tempo. He’s going to pick it up, I can tell already. We’ve got to get him out there so he can see and react already.”

(on returning to the game) “Like I said, when you look at the defense, the organization and you look at the people, I think with myself that I am at the stage in my career where people are important. We all want to win, but if you’ve got good people and you can work with good people, that make the job easier in my mind. I just felt that this situation was a good situation. I felt that the people were good people and that would enjoy working with them. That made it easier for me to come and give it a shot.”

(on position battles at right end and safety) “I feel pretty decent about them. We’ve got competitive guys. One, I’ve got Kendrick Lewis that I had in Kansas City, so I know what he is about. We’ve got Chris Clemmons, who we picked up. He’s a good guy and has good experience. He’s been playing in this league. I kind of value experience a little bit. So those two guys help me at that spot. As far as the line goes, I really didn’t know about the line because we lost guys in free agency. The guys that have been here haven’t played that much. So far, I’m impressed with what I see and I think they are going to be pretty competitive.”

(on what he’s seen from Louis Nix III) “Well, he got himself banged up early and so his knee was an issue. He hasn’t as much of an opportunity. I can tell he is a sharp guy and a guy with wits about him. His head is spinning as well. I think as soon as that knee gets well -he’s a big, strong, physical player and he has played the nose position, and so he knows how to play it- I think that will all bode well for him.”

(on using J.J. Watt in the current defensive system) “I see putting J.J. on the field and letting him make the plays that he’s been making because I have not seen a defense yet that did not use playmakers. If you’ve got a playmaker, you’re going to use the playmaker. J.J. is a playmaker. You’ll find out that you have to be flexible and you have to adapt in the NFL from game to game, week to week and sometimes day to day. We’ll do what we need to do to put the best football players on the field and to play with them.”

(on building the defense starting with the line) “Sure, I still believe that. Like I say, you’ve got to have those big, strong and physical guys on the inside to make the inside of the defense good and then you can put those athletic guys on the edge and let them flash a little bit. They’re not allowed if the guys inside don’t do their jobs. We’ve got to be good on the inside.”

(on what he has seen from D.J. Swearinger) “I like D.J. He’s a competitive guy. I like the fact that he is competitive. I like the fact that he can cover tight ends. Everyone once in a while we’ll throw him on a wide receiver. He covers backs out of the backfield. It looks like he is pretty aggressive and wants to mix it up as far as being in the box sometimes. I think he brings a lot to the able.”

(on whether he sees Brooks Reed as primarily an inside linebacker) “Not totally. We’re giving him a look on the inside. I think what that does is that increases our flexibility that if you can go inside and get it done inside, I know that he can get it done outside because he played outside last year. Now I feel like I can put him at either spot depending on what the needs are. He’s a value to us.”

(on what he’s seen from Whitney Mercilus) “He’s playing at the outside linebacker spot right now. I’m one of those guys that I feel that guys have to earn their position. (Jadeveon) Clowney, I know he is the number one (pick), but he has to earn his spot in my eyes. He is trying to learn and if he learns, then chances are he will get playing time. If he doesn’t learn, then he probably won’t get as much playing time. That is where Mercilus, he’s going to be there and he’s going to play. If it’s Brooks (Reed), Brooks is going to play. I still feel like I can go out there and line up. Now with Clowney and his ability, if he comes along, then Brooks having the ability to go inside just makes us better I believe.”

(on Jadeveon Clowney playing primarily at outside linebacker) “I think at this point that is what we are looking at, a transition of a rush end trying to become a linebacker. Only time will tell if he can make that transition or not. One, he has really good athletic ability. He has size, speed and I think he has deceptive strength. He’s got the tools. Now the thing is the dropping in pass coverage, the route recognition and all of those kind of things that you know, you just don’t learn them overnight. You’ve got to get reps at them.”

(on his previous relationship with Bill O’Brien) “I really didn’t have a relationship with him. I didn’t know him at all. That is why I wanted to sit down and talk to him. After talking to him, I felt that he was a football guy. Football was important to him and winning was important to him. That is where he was going to put his efforts. I think that is what I was looking for, someone where football was important and he is going to give everything he’s got to the team. I felt that I wanted to be a part of it.”

(on how he has changed as a coach from his early years) “I don’t yell and scream as much as I used to. When I was younger, I yelled and screamed more.”
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If RAC can't register top performance here with what he's got, it says alot. I think he feels good about this team and this opportunity. If he performs here like he did in NE.....it says alot about the talent. His defense seems to require more fit than alot of them. I think Wade's tended to be too simple and in the past the Texans have had coordinators ask too much.....hopefully RAC's defense is just right.
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Is it just me, or are we mentally back to where we were before the draft with itchy posting fingers? LOL
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