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Old 06-07-2014   #301
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First, which offense did Fitzpatrick play in that was similar?

Second... we paid Sage to come in to be the back up for $3M back in 2006. A $1.5M increase in nine seasons isn't crazy. Starters not on their rookie contract get $6 or more. Heck, the Vikings signed Sage to a two year $9M deal after trading a 4th round pick for him to back up Tavaris Jackson.


The Jets signed Vick to a one year $5M deal. What are their expectations of Michael Vick?
I have seen both OB and Fitz say on TV that he has payed in a similar offense, OB said the terminology was different but play was same. I'm almost positive it was also mentioned in the OTA thread that Fitz was a fit due to this and his intelligence. I have never watched him before.

I did not understand signing Sage either.
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Remember what they paid Reed to be a "mentor."
Yep Fitz' career pretty much parallels Reed's. lol
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Frerotte: "Look, dude, you’re either gonna run with the receivers or gonna slow it down a little bit. That’s just how it’s going to go."

Gus Frerotte and Mark Bulger jokingly bullied Fitzpatrick on 2006 #Rams. Told him he was running sprints too fast.

Fitzpatrick knew Bill Kollar in St. Louis and lived near him in Arizona. #Texans TE coach John Perry tried to recruit Fitz to Dartmouth.

Another reason #Texans are currently banking on Ryan Fitzpatrick: He had previous working relationships with seven of team's coaches. #NFL

Ryan Fitzpatrick consulted with 15-year, seven-team ex-pro before signing with #Texans. His mentor and close friend, Gus Frerotte. #NFL
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Cosell on Fitz: "We're not talking about a top-five starter. ... But O'Brien sees a guy he can mold with how he structures his offense."

Cossel said Bill O'Brien is "one of the best in the business" and could be a perfect fit for Fitzpatrick at this point in QB's career.

If #Texans define what Fitzpatrick is\isn't allowed to do, turnovers will be limited and new system will play to Fitzpatrick's strengths.

Greg Cossel said Ryan Fitzpatrick has potential to excel with Bill O'Brien, George Godsey in a smart offense that establishes "gray areas."

#NFL Films guru Greg Cossel believes #Texans' Ryan Fitzpatrick could be one of league's surprise QBs this season.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick is big into superhero movies. Also a Legos fans. Saw the Lego movie "multiple times" with his kids. "I'm just a big kid."

#Texans' expected Week 1 starting QB wore an Avengers T-shirt and Transformers hat at same time this week. #Pro

Early positive words about QB Ryan Fitzpatrick from O'Brien. #Texans #NFL

#Texans have discussed with Fitzpatrick how he can limit turnovers this year. Previous systems, background, intelligence good fits for team
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Texans wide receivers coach Stan Hixon was in Buffalo when Fitzpatrick started for the Bills. Special teams coach Bob Ligashesky was in St. Louis when Fitzpatrick was a rookie Ram. Secondary coach John Butler was at Harvard when Fitzpatrick wore crimson. Tight ends coach John Perry once tried to get Fitzpatrick to come to Dartmouth. Texans coaches Bill Kollar, Craig Fitzgerald and Sean Hayes also saw their life paths cross with Fitzpatrick's.
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"I was just looking at his staff, and there were so many people from my past. … I was just sitting there thinking, 'Man, I'm getting old,' " Fitzpatrick said.
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Quarterbacks coach George Godsey and O'Brien believe that if Fitzpatrick's turnovers are minimized and his strengths are accentuated, the Texans have the potential to "develop" a veteran, system-based quarterback. If the experiment works, Fitzpatrick will rely on running back Arian Foster, three tight ends, wide receivers Andre Johnson and DeAndre Hopkins, and a new emphasis on a slot receiver to win tight games.
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"It's about decision-making," O'Brien said. "Not forcing the ball and understanding that you have a really good back out of the backfield in Foster that you can always check it down to. … We believe in our system. But at the end of the day, Ryan, he needs to go out there and make good decisions and make sure he is doing what is best for the team."

To NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell, Fitzpatrick could be the perfect answer for the 2014 Texans. The positives: good arm, high intelligence, legit experience, a natural feel for the position. The negatives: limited athleticism, occasionally frenetic in the pocket, random regrettable throws that can immediately turn games upside down.

Fitzpatrick never was and never will be confused for an elite starter. But if "gray areas" are removed, his assets are harnessed and his role is clearly defined - throw here and here, never there - a team searching since 2002 for a franchise quarterback could have an unexpected winner this season.

"A quarterback like Fitzpatrick can sometimes be exposed, which is why he's Ryan Fitzpatrick and not Tom Brady," Cosell said. "But for the most part, I think Bill sees a guy that he can really manipulate, in a positive sense, and control … and get the most out of him."...
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To this day, I'm still trying to figure out Fitzpatrick's label as a "smart QB." Isn't that an oxymoron when you apply it to 10 years of playing catch with the wrong team?
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First, which offense did Fitzpatrick play in that was similar?

Second... we paid Sage to come in to be the back up for $3M back in 2006. A $1.5M increase in nine seasons isn't crazy. Starters not on their rookie contract get $6 or more. Heck, the Vikings signed Sage to a two year $9M deal after trading a 4th round pick for him to back up Tavaris Jackson.


The Jets signed Vick to a one year $5M deal. What are their expectations of Michael Vick?
TK, here is the post I was referring to on MB. It was post again here between your thread above and this one. Plus the TV comments I noted.
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To this day, I'm still trying to figure out Fitzpatrick's label as a "smart QB." Isn't that an oxymoron when you apply it to 10 years of playing catch with the wrong team?
Hey Doc! Even smart guys can look like they are playing for the other side; just look at the White House and current events.
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Hey Doc! Even smart guys can look like they are playing for the other side; just look at the White House and current events.
I have to concur with Doc.
Watching Fitz play for the Titans last year, smart is anything but.

If he plays at that level, Keenum gets the start by default.
Besides all the turnovers that appeared on the stats sheet, he averaged nearly two could-have-been Ints that were dropped by defenders per game, some under pressures, some not.

I would really hate to see these scenarios reoccur on game day with live bullets flying.
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I have to concur with Doc.
Watching Fitz play for the Titans last year, smart is anything but.

If he plays at that level, Keenum gets the start by default.
Besides all the turnovers that appeared on the stats sheet, he averaged nearly two could-have-been Ints that were dropped by defenders per game, some under pressures, some not.

I would really hate to see these scenarios reoccur on game day with live bullets flying.
We lived thru Schaubs glorious entrance into NFL record books last season, at this point not much we as texans fans cant handle.
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I have to concur with Doc.
Watching Fitz play for the Titans last year, smart is anything but.

If he plays at that level, Keenum gets the start by default.
Besides all the turnovers that appeared on the stats sheet, he averaged nearly two could-have-been Ints that were dropped by defenders per game, some under pressures, some not.

I would really hate to see these scenarios reoccur on game day with live bullets flying.
Thanks for input 76 as I said I have not watch Fitz play but hope as all do that OB can turn him into better than avg. Unless team is a repeat of last season, coaching gets a pass from me this season to work the players into system.
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To this day, I'm still trying to figure out Fitzpatrick's label as a "smart QB." Isn't that an oxymoron when you apply it to 10 years of playing catch with the wrong team?
Smart individual.

FitzMagic has a history of perplexingly bad decisions as a QB. Godsey's job is to exorcise the demons behind those head-scratching choices.

It's what my mentor first taught me about trading -- focus on minimizing your losses, the profits will take care of themselves.
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Smart individual.

FitzMagic has a history of perplexingly bad decisions as a QB. Godsey's job is to exorcise the demons behind those head-scratching choices.

It's what my mentor first taught me about trading -- focus on minimizing your losses, the profits will take care of themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVoKlqbz1l4 Perhaps Ace agrees.
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Smart individual.

FitzMagic has a history of perplexingly bad decisions as a QB. Godsey's job is to exorcise the demons behind those head-scratching choices.

It's what my mentor first taught me about trading -- focus on minimizing your losses, the profits will take care of themselves.
This is what I want to see this year, eliminating mistakes. This is the way i see O'Brien putting his staff, the vets and the rookies together. I want to see training the basics, then hustle and effort from players. I do not want to see "playing to stay close and hope to pull out a win in fourth quarter." Just eliminate mental errors and take it to the opponent. I prefer a run first, pound it offense and think this Oline and RBs will make me happy. If we are consistent, we will beat most teams and play good games against the better teams.
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I'd love to have a 1-on-1 with him & ask him what it is he'd like to accomplish, what's been his biggest obstacle in the past, & how he plans on overcoming that obstacle in the future.
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I'd love to have a 1-on-1 with him & ask him what it is he'd like to accomplish.........less INTs, what's been his biggest obstacle in the past........a D on the field, & how he plans on overcoming that obstacle in the future.......hand the ball off to anyone within hearing distance.
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Smart individual.

FitzMagic has a history of perplexingly bad decisions as a QB. Godsey's job is to exorcise the demons behind those head-scratching choices.

It's what my mentor first taught me about trading -- focus on minimizing your losses, the profits will take care of themselves.

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How many QBs can you think of with such a long consistent history of poor TD to INT ratio that ever turned it around, no matter who the coach was?
Late blossoming QBs after moving into better situations:

Jim plunkett
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