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Old 05-26-2014   #301
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You just answered why we did not pick Houston then.
Oh , I know that was why. Roll the dice from time to time. Don't only draft good Ol boys. Some guys can change their lives and not be a "pacman Jones".
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Oh , I know that was why. Roll the dice from time to time. Don't only draft good Ol boys. Some guys can change their lives and not be a "pacman Jones".
I agree but that is just how the texans have always been, we dont usually draft or sign people with character concerns/issues.
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I agree but that is just how the texans have always been, we dont usually draft or sign people with character concerns/issues.
Or so the fan story goes. Cushing, Travis Johnson, Okoye, Jerome Mathis say otherwise.
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They DO have a history of trading up. Which is why I think they WOULDN'T have taken Bridgewater at 33.
I'm certain the Texans were not interested in Teddy or Manziel. Im sure the Seahawks called the Texans saying they were trading down, were we interested and we said nope we're good. If we really wanted Teddy, if we thought that highly of him the smart move would be to trade up regardless. The thought is he's a first round calibre talent that had immediate starting potential. Second fold due to being a 1st rounder we would have had an additional year option on his contract at 32 vs 33. That's worth it if he turns out to be a franchise QB (in this case for he Vikes).

Again I think that the Texans were not very interested in these 2 QBs (OB's words ring accurate that he doesn't see a lot of separation between the "top tiers")... AND I think there was so much talent in this draft that we got some "steals" considering where they were picked. The 50th ranked player in this draft could be considered comparable to a 30th ranked prospect in previous years - potentially.

Love these selections that were made instead of reaching for a QB need that OB or Smith werent overly excited about. Really looking forward to Savage developing
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Technically, the Texans traded down from 2/51 BEFORE moving back up later to 2/58 to take Tate.

Harris has worked out worse than Babin (something I didn't think possible).

Nix was a few weeks ago.

Tell me more about that history of moving up in drafts.
I am not saying we did a good job at trading up. What I was saying is: when we had a guy we wanted, we made sure we get him by trading up. Now QB is clearly the most important position and we did not move up 1 space. That wouldn`t even have been that expensive. I think it is pretty clear, that we didn`t think highly enough of Bridgewater and he probably wouldn`t even have been our pick if he was there at #33.
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The moment Fitz signed, they knew they wouldn't have to rush a rookie to start. Either way it's looking Manziel or Bortles will not likely start and Bridgewater might have an outside shot at starting day one in Minn based on the way things are looking.

My guess is much like Pencilneck, I think Bortles was prolly number one QB on this staff's list and had he fallen more like Manziel they would've moved for him. If the were that high on Teddy they would've made a move to secure him. As it stands I am willing to bet even IF available they still pick Xavier top of second.

The good thing here is they don't have to start Savage day one and based on how the roster rounds out... I still think later in season they could be pushing for a playoff spot.
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Or so the fan story goes. Cushing, Travis Johnson, Okoye, Jerome Mathis say otherwise.
But these guys didnt have character issues before we drafted them did they ? I thought they all appeared after they were in the NFL.
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But these guys didnt have character issues before we drafted them did they ? I thought they all appeared after they were in the NFL.
There were rumors of Cushing using steroids since HS. TJ has several altercations in college as did Mathis with one or both even being arrested. Okoye was reported to have failed a drug test at the combine.
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There were rumors of Cushing using steroids since HS. TJ has several altercations in college as did Mathis with one or both even being arrested. Okoye was reported to have failed a drug test at the combine.
hmmm guess i missed all those, of course that is what 4 out of how many draftees....70-80 ?
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hmmm guess i missed all those, of course that is what 4 out of how many draftees....70-80 ?
Yeah, but 3 of them are 1st round draft picks. That's 3 out of 12. I'm not saying they are riverboat gamblers but I think the fan meme is a little off base.
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I believe guys like Peyton, Luck, Elway, Aikman are all guys that would be successful NFL starters regardless of what system, coach, etc...
I love Troy Aikman & don't mean to berate his legacy in any way.

But...

He had Mark Tuinei, Nate Newton, & Emmit Smith (not to mention or take anything away from Stepnowski, Gogan, & Williams). They'll make any QBs job a whole lot easier. Emmit may not have been as flashy as Barry Sanders, but he's the best closer the NFL has ever seen.
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You mean like Nix? Or Harris? Or Tate?
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I think more people would be upset if Bridgewater was there at 33 because I don't think the Texans were going to take him.
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I love Troy Aikman & don't mean to berate his legacy in any way.

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He had Mark Tuinei, Nate Newton, & Emmit Smith (not to mention or take anything away from Stepnowski, Gogan, & Williams). They'll make any QBs job a whole lot easier. Emmit may not have been as flashy as Barry Sanders, but he's the best closer the NFL has ever seen.
Aikman and Terry Bradshaw are alike in they were on loaded teams . Judge them as you may but they had an advantage .
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I think the texans would've taken him. I just don't think they were going to trade up for him.
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There's a lot more to QB'ing than arm strength (see Jeff George/Jamarcus Russell), and Savage has a lot to learn & some unlearning to do. He was a 4th/5th round pick for a reason.
& there was a reason Brady was a 6th, Romo & Arian went undrafted.

IMO, the only reason Savage was a 4th round pick was because he did that little college shuffle that had him sitting for two years. Schiano even as much as admitted that he probably should have stuck with Savage at Rutgers & this whole thing would have been avoided (maybe).

The kid looks good, for only having two years of starting under his belt. Kinda like that Bortles kid, or that Manziel kid both who went in the first round, neither, imo, look as ready to start as Savage.
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I'm certain the Texans were not interested in Teddy or Manziel. Im sure the Seahawks called the Texans saying they were trading down, were we interested and we said nope we're good. If we really wanted Teddy, if we thought that highly of him the smart move would be to trade up regardless. The thought is he's a first round calibre talent that had immediate starting potential. Second fold due to being a 1st rounder we would have had an additional year option on his contract at 32 vs 33. That's worth it if he turns out to be a franchise QB (in this case for he Vikes).

Again I think that the Texans were not very interested in these 2 QBs (OB's words ring accurate that he doesn't see a lot of separation between the "top tiers")... AND I think there was so much talent in this draft that we got some "steals" considering where they were picked. The 50th ranked player in this draft could be considered comparable to a 30th ranked prospect in previous years - potentially.

Love these selections that were made instead of reaching for a QB need that OB or Smith werent overly excited about. Really looking forward to Savage developing
If the Texans were interested in a QB at 1,1. he would've been drafted there. The name doesn't matter. GTFOI. Damn.
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& there was a reason Brady was a 6th, Romo & Arian went undrafted.

IMO, the only reason Savage was a 6th round pick was because he did that little college shuffle that had him sitting for two years. Schiano even as much as admitted that he probably should have stuck with Savage at Rutgers & this whole thing would have been avoided (maybe).

The kid looks good, for only having two years of starting under his belt. Kinda like that Bortles kid, or that Manziel kid both who went in the first round, neither, imo, look as ready to start as Savage.
You mean, 4th.
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I love Troy Aikman & don't mean to berate his legacy in any way.

But...

He had Mark Tuinei, Nate Newton, & Emmit Smith (not to mention or take anything away from Stepnowski, Gogan, & Williams). They'll make any QBs job a whole lot easier. Emmit may not have been as flashy as Barry Sanders, but he's the best closer the NFL has ever seen.
My point was that Aikman was NFL ready as a prospect. He could've come into almost any NFL situation and been successful. Of course the quality of the team around him mattered. I'm not arguing that Aikman was a greater pro QB than Bret Favre. My point is that Aikman was going to be a deadly accurate NFL QB with quite leadership and toughness in the pocket no matter who drafted him. Favre, on the other hand, would not have become the player he did if he was not traded from Atlanta to Green Bay, where he learned and developed under one of the greatest offensive coaching staffs ever assembled.
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My point was that Aikman was NFL ready as a prospect. He could've come into almost any NFL situation and been successful. Of course the quality of the team around him mattered. I'm not arguing that Aikman was a greater pro QB than Bret Favre. My point is that Aikman was going to be a deadly accurate NFL QB with quite leadership and toughness in the pocket no matter who drafted him. Favre, on the other hand, would not have become the player he did if he was not traded from Atlanta to Green Bay, where he learned and developed under one of the greatest offensive coaching staffs ever assembled.
Yet Aikman's rookie yr as a starter the Cowboys went 0-11.

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My point was that Aikman was NFL ready as a prospect. He could've come into almost any NFL situation and been successful. Of course the quality of the team around him mattered. I'm not arguing that Aikman was a greater pro QB than Bret Favre. My point is that Aikman was going to be a deadly accurate NFL QB with quite leadership and toughness in the pocket no matter who drafted him. Favre, on the other hand, would not have become the player he did if he was not traded from Atlanta to Green Bay, where he learned and developed under one of the greatest offensive coaching staffs ever assembled.
We assume he was the most NFL ready QB and we assume he would of been successful anywhere. We do not know that for sure, we have all seen MANY QBs who were NFL ready flop. Given Aikmans situation they to may have been very good, never know.
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