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Old 05-10-2014   #41
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Looks like a tremendous Draft right now, but of course we really won't know for atleast 2 or 3 years. Hey when can I get a Clowney jersey/T-shirt ?
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i absolutely give it an A. assuming health, i see 4 guys who are likely to start game one (5 if you count FB) and play at an NFL level. we set a direction and most definitely achieved it with draft, getting bigger and tougher. along with great value, i think that's really where we won - not with the individuals, but with the group as a whole.

clowney will start, and casserly (i know) is already putting him in next year's top 100 show.

XSF will start and strengthens the entire line.

feido will start and adds a rare combination of blocking and receiving tightend that we dont have. is already being compared to 2 probowlers.

nix will rotate with powe and will start as early as game 1.

savage had possibly the highest upside of the quarterbacks in this draft, and was taken when value made it a great pick.

pagan will be part of the rotation immediately and will probably beat out crick by next year.

blue will be part of the depth.

prosch will start-ish. i dont think there's anything more underrated than a great blocking fullback, and prosch is a thumper.

hal and balentine ... 7th rounders that might make the squad as special teamers. one site was extremely high on hal, so there may be real potential there to assume a nickel role as early as next year.
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I gave them a B.

I thought they were doing everything right, until they got to the second 6th round pick. Then it was like they left Rick Smith alone while everyone else went for nachos.
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I enjoyed this draft immensely and think we did good. I think we got better on both sides of the ball. Our defense has a chance to be really special over the next few years. One thing I thought about this morning as I looked over the haul from days 1 & 2 was how similar this draft was to the 2006 draft. In Kubiak's first season here when he worked with Casserly he was also fortunate to get a really deep draft and we picked well in it.

We got a bunch of starters that year. Mario, DeMeco, Spencer, Winston, and Daniels all were great picks. Spencer got hurt but I don't think of him as a bad pick. Nobody could have predicted that. It really was a "5 starter draft" and both Mario and DeMeco were special players.

This year we just might have matched it. Clowney, Su'a-Filo, Fiedorowicz, and Nix look like locks to start to me. Just one more guy works out and that matches the kind of quality we got in 2006. The thing is I'm more excited about these guys than I was that group.

I'd rather have had Mettenberger than Savage but that's splitting hairs at this point. Neither would have been picked to start (Though Mettenberger will displace Locker quickly in Nashville I expect). Maybe Pagan will step up and be the 5th starter. Who knows?

I give this an "A" knowing that grading the draft on the last day is kind of pointless. Still, very optimistic about this one.
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We got a bunch of starters that year. Mario, DeMeco, Spencer, Winston, and Daniels all were great picks. Spencer got hurt but I don't think of him as a bad pick. Nobody could have predicted that. It really was a "5 starter draft" and both Mario and DeMeco were special players.

This year we just might have matched it. Clowney, Su'a-Filo, Fiedorowicz, and Nix look like locks to start to me. Just one more guy works out and that matches the kind of quality we got in 2006. The thing is I'm more excited about these guys than I was that group.
This would be a crazy good class if it turned out like 2006. You had 3 pro bowlers and one of the best RTs in the NFL for several seasons come out of that class.

I like this class, but I don't see it being anywhere near 2006. That was one of the 10-15 all time great drafts for any franchise.
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is this a Patriots draft 2002 draft outta /10

reminds me of it LOL


We are now Patriots SOUTH a bunch of blue collar no name players bring your lunch pail BIGGGG UGLY PLAYERS
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is this a Patriots draft 2002 draft outta /10

reminds me of it LOL


We are now Patriots SOUTH a bunch of blue collar no name players bring your lunch pail BIGGGG UGLY PLAYERS
Reminded me more of a .... Steelers draft from the Chuck Noll & Bill Cowher era's.


Bunch of big nasty types that wont get pushed around ....
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haha yeah i had to look and see who that lone wolf was. Was assuming you hit the wrong button but you never know.

To me this is one of the best drafts i have seen from the texans !
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I think we`ve got ourselves 5 early season starters out of this draft:

Clowney
XSF
Fiedorowicz
Nix
Prosch

Add to that 3 rotational players in

Pagan
Blue
Hal

Anf two projects in:

Savage
Ballentine

So, 5 starters, 3 rotational player, 2 guys with a buttload of talent that could help us in the future. That is a great draft in my book. Of course it never plays out this way, but I still think we`ve got a whole lot better the past 3 days.
Guh. I love the draft and give it an A-

...that awkward moment when you realize you may have drafted five starters and realize how low your team has dropped when you draft five starters...
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1. Clowney, an expected pick and best player in the draft. A
2. Su'a Filo, surprising but we got the best OG in the draft. A+
3. Fiedorowicz, good player but there was better talent available at positions of need. The player is a B, the pick is a head scratcher. C-
3b. Nix, best NT in the draft and if he stays healthy this pick is a conditional A+
4. Savage, he's got potential, I give the pick a B.
6. Pagan, he's a rotational body with decent size and there was better talent still available. C+
6b. Blue, head scratcher when you consider that Lache Seastrunk was still available. F
6c. Prosch, This pick makes no sense, haven't we already taken 2 FB's in the last 2 yrs., now we've got 3. In a very deep draft it's a wasted pick. F
7. Hal, grade based on potential alone, there were better prospects still available. C
7b. Ballentine, size and speed is what you look for in the 7th. B+


It seems that O'Brien was in charge of the first 4 rounds and that he then turned it over to Rick Smith who had no clue who any of these players were. Smith continues to treat the late rounds of the draft like they don't matter, and in possibly the deepest draft ever that's inexcuseable. Taking Blue in the 6th when Lache Seastrunk was available to you makes no sense what so ever, an injured rotational backup over one of the best RB prospects available? The first 5 picks are an A-, the last 5 picks are a C-/D+ I average it out to a B-
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Draft gets an A from me.

We didn't draft any Whitney Mercilus fake football players. Most of the guys we picked I already knew a great deal about...A couple of the others I've been brushing up on them and I like what little I've seen.

First four picks were home runs as far as I'm concerned.

Savage is going to have to put in the work to be a starting QB in the NFL. I'm intrigued by him and cautiously optimistic. Hopefully he becomes a star, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Love Prosch and Blue. Especially Prosch. I think he's going to be a Texan for a long, long time.

Pagan has the ability...He just needs to get the consistent motor and desire. I think his adrenaline as a rookie will help take care of that though. But the guy is solidly built. Strong. Perfect fit at 34 DE.


Overall this team used this draft to get bigger and stronger and flat out more talented.
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Ask me again in 3 years.
That's me. I think the best player taken was the ucla guard. Nix and clowney can really mke this draft special if the can live up to some of what they display talent wise. Not a savage fan. I feel like if the texans wanted a big,inaccurate passer to fix,why not josh freeman? Better yet,why not a guy like boyd? I like the iowa te. He's not gonna make anyone bracket him,but he runs better than his 40. Kinda wanted seastrunk vs blue,but that's me. Ballentine has a lot of upside and he probably get stashed for a yr. I like the randy bullock pick as a udfa.
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6c. Prosch, This pick makes no sense, haven't we already taken 2 FB's in the last 2 yrs., now we've got 3. In a very deep draft it's a wasted pick. F
I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

No. We haven't taken any FBs the past 2 years and although we've got 1 FB on the team right now, he's a guy we picked up from the Browns -- I think he was a street FA.

Last year, we picked up Greg Jones from the Jags. But that was a 1 year contract and he's gone now.

We also traded a couple of years ago for a FB but he's no longer on the team.
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I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

No. We haven't taken any FBs the past 2 years and although we've got 1 FB on the team right now, he's a guy we picked up from the Browns -- I think he was a street FA.

Last year, we picked up Greg Jones from the Jags. But that was a 1 year contract and he's gone now.

We also traded a couple of years ago for a FB but he's no longer on the team.
What I'm referring to were UDFA's Zach Boren-2013 who was supposed to be a very good FB, Jason Ford-2012, FA Greg Jones-2013, and some guy you say we picked up as a street FA from the Browns. Brad Smelley is on the roster now, not sure if that's the guy your referring to from the Browns. That's 4 FB's in the last 2 yrs.. I understand Jones left for better money elsewhere, but Boren was supposed to be a very good FB. You'd think that one of these guys could stick with the team. We've got a revolving turnstile at FB. I just think there was better talent on the board to be had than drafting a FB.

The first 5 picks in the draft were very good, and the last 5 picks were bad when you consider the other talent on the board.
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Here's my take:
- Clowney: I've never been sold on him. I hope I'm wrong, but someone who was regularly handled the whole year and plays with an inconsistent motor bothers me. I worry we'll have another Mario: tremendous potential with flashes but never really becoming a true difference-maker. There were 4 or 5 others I'd have put higher.

- Sua'Filo: Really like this pick.

-Fiedorowicz: Not so sure at first, but as I've learned more about him, I'm very happy about this pick, also.

- Nix: Love this pick. Hope whatever was causing him to drop turns out to be a non-issue, though.

- Savage: Not sure he is any better than what we already had

- 6th and 7th round picks: OK, I guess, but nothing spectacular. Prosch is the one pick out of this group that I really like - I'm surprised we need a FB, but he seems like a good one.

- Overall: we went into this draft with one gigantic need: QB. I don't think that Savage is the answer there. Between not being so high on the Clowney pick and not getting a top QB prospect, I can't give this an A. There are some other really good picks, though, so I'll go with a B.
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What I'm referring to were UDFA's Zach Boren-2013 who was supposed to be a very good FB, Jason Ford-2012, FA Greg Jones-2013, and some guy you say we picked up as a street FA from the Browns. Brad Smelley is on the roster now, not sure if that's the guy your referring to from the Browns. That's 4 FB's in the last 2 yrs.. I understand Jones left for better money elsewhere, but Boren was supposed to be a very good FB. You'd think that one of these guys could stick with the team. We've got a revolving turnstile at FB. I just think there was better talent on the board to be had than drafting a FB.

The first 5 picks in the draft were very good, and the last 5 picks were bad when you consider the other talent on the board.
You were making it sound like we'd drafted 2 FBs in the previous couple of years and we haven't.

Greg Jones is an OLD FB and was only on a 1 year contract. The other guys were just guys, UDFA guys that we hoped would be able to come in and make a difference. But. Still. UDFA guys. Not guys you should put a lot of hope in.

But most importantly, KUBIAK guys. This is a different staff looking for different qualities.
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