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Old 05-10-2014   #1
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Default Selection 6.177: Jeoffrey Pagan DT-DE

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Old 05-10-2014   #2
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They're hoping he can be Kyle Love Jr.
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Is he taking smith de spot?
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Default Re: Jeoffrey Pagan, DT

He'll rotate with Crick I imagine.

I like the pick.

Hard to move, got some natural ability. Fits the scheme. Been well coached.
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Default Re: Jeoffrey Pagan, DT

I watched the LSU film on him and he started off shaky, but finished strong...

When he is determined to be strong at the point of attack, he can be.

He's going to need to be consistent and always have it in his mind to own his space.

I'm good with the pick. Solidly built player. Should at the very least be solid depth this year with a chance of being a good starter sooner or later.
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This is the kind of DE we need, I think.
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Default Re: Jeoffrey Pagan, DT

3-4 DE, right? Not exactly a DT?
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Default Re: Jeoffrey Pagan, DE

13. JEOFFREY PAGAN | Alabama 6034|310 lbs|3JR 1/27/1992 (age 22)

MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 | Hand: 09 5/8 | Wingspan: 80 5/8
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STRENGTHS: Packs the muscle on his frame very well, carrying his 300+ pounds easily with a large wingspan…powerful tackler, wrapping and driving through his man, bringing his legs with him…good grip strength to tear at the POA with heavy, active hands…anchors well, keeping his butt low and digging his cleats in to hold his ground…displays closing burst once he sees red and shows examples of the flexibility and body control needed for the position…does a nice job keeping his eyes elevated and tracks the ball well…very strong work ethic and pushed himself in the weight room, adding 50+ pounds since his senior year in high school…versatile and saw snaps at the 0-, 3- and 5-technique spots – played several roles in Alabama’s multiple front.

WEAKNESSES: Limited range and doesn’t show the needed fluidity to consistently make plays away from the LOS…inconsistent snap anticipation and too often was the last to move off the ball…extremely raw as a technician and lacks an ideal understanding of his surroundings…unrefined pass rush arsenal and needs to develop his mechanics as a rusher…late to disengage and needs to refine his hand fundamentals…aggressive intensity seems to come and go, showing some passive qualities and lacking a consistent mean streak at the POA…unimpressive resume and production with only 11 starts under his belt – lackluster career stats: 61 tackles, 7.5 tackles for loss and 3.5 sacks…some durability concerns after a serious knee injury in 2010 as a senior in high school – didn’t work out at the NFL Combine due to a left labrum tear and left quad contusion.

SUMMARY: A four-star DE recruit, Pagan had a whirlwind recruitment, originally committing to Florida before switching to Clemson and eventually choosing Alabama. He saw back-up duty as a true freshman and sophomore before finally breaking into the starting line-up as a junior in 2013, finishing with 34 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss and 2.0 sacks. Pagan surprised many when he decided to skip his senior year and could have used another year in college, but the injury risk weighed heavily in his decision. He is a very hot/cold prospect and his highlights make him look like a future 1st round pick, but his impact snap-to-snap leaves a lot to be desired. Pagan shows natural ball awareness, but too often he’s busy hung up on blocks and can’t do anything about it. He has some moldable traits, but is extremely green and needs time and a patient coaching staff to cultivate his raw skills – possesses some untapped potential and should be considered an ascending 5-technique
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Default Re: Jeoffrey Pagan, DT

We are just crushing this draft. I love it.
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Default Re: Jeoffrey Pagan, DT

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3-4 DE, right? Not exactly a DT?
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Default Re: Jeoffrey Pagan, DT

I like the pick. Depth player that is a mammoth of a DE that should fit perfectly in the 3-4. I had us picking him in the 7th in my mock draft..
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I would have picked Deandre Coleman.
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Among the more interesting comments about Pagan was by NFLdraftscout.com: “Built like a Coke machine — wide and heavy — and is just as difficult to move.”
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3-4 DE, right? Not exactly a DT?
Absolutely. Our starters on defense should eventually be: Watt at left end, Nix at nose tackle, Pagan at right end. Clowney, Reed, Cushing and Mercilus at the four linebacker spots. That's when we play our base 3-4. That being said, a lot has to do with how eager and ready Crennel is to start three rookies in the front seven.

Jeoffrey Pagan absolutely single-handily destroyed the likes of Johnny Manziel and Zach Metternberger (new Titans QB) in some SEC showdown games. He has some burst off the snap and the ability to rush the passer for his big size.

Major upgrade over Jared Crick, IMO
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I'm already licking my chops thinking about the Texans defense playing the likes of Zach Mettenberger and Blake Bortles four times a year. Should be a good time to pad the sack numbers. And Andrew Luck: We're coming for him too!!!! I don't know about anybody else but you have to be excited about the Houston Texans defense. For the long term. They did a pretty awesome job in this draft.
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Can we get the mods to format the title of this thread to resemble the titles Infantrycak did for the draft picks? Y'know, for uniformity.
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Default Selection 6.177: Jeoffrey Pagan

Belated poll.
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Well I know Marshall won't like him.
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Another defensive end? He gets a C from me.
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