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Old 05-07-2014   #361
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now why would this happen? explain
Because we don't want to fall all the way back to six.
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Because we don't want to fall all the way back to six.
still dont get it. what would we be getting for moving back 1 spot? cant be much.
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still dont get it. what would we be getting for moving back 1 spot? cant be much.
Doesn't matter what we get out of it. If we don't want Clowney and Atlanta does, anything we get for moving down to #2 is a bonus.
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Doesn't matter what we get out of it. If we don't want Clowney and Atlanta does, anything we get for moving down to #2 is a bonus.
so we basically let atlanta out negotiate us.
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so we basically let atlanta out negotiate us.
Should Atlanta really after Clowney, #2 is not going to guarantee Clowney. They need to get to #1 which means we have a leverage and not out negotiate us at all I think. This is only if Texans FO value Mack or Robinson or other players available are similar to Clowney's talent as their #1A, #1B or #1C on their draft board.
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Doesn't matter what we get out of it. If we don't want Clowney and Atlanta does, anything we get for moving down to #2 is a bonus.
I mostly agree with this, but don't want to see the team get punked.
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so we basically let atlanta out negotiate us.
Since there's not a prospect that jumps out with that WOW factor, and it's a very deep draft, it's going to be a buyer's market and Smith will have to adjust his asking price accordingly. I would be very happy swapping 2014 1st's, 2014 3rd and 4th, 2015 1st in a trade with Atlanta. It would be pretty much a sliding scale, as usual, though. The further down, the higher the price.

Short of being punked and swapping picks for a single extra pick and some cash, Smith can really only out negotiate himself. Unless the team is just dead set on 1-3 particular players. Hopefully, Smith mocked a trade with all 31 teams in the first. I'd be cool with dropping to 31 and getting a buttload of future picks.
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if atlanta is dying to get a player i make them deal with us. if not, id threaten to keep him for myself. st.louis isnt set on 1 player if theyre moving to 6, so id bluff the best offer out of atlanta, and turn around and make st.louis deal with me if theyre willing to drop all the way down to 6. at worse wed be giving up what atlanta would have given up, and getting the extra stuff they gave up to st. louis. cut the middle man out, st. louis and st. louis is still making the deal to 6.
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I mostly agree with this, but don't want to see the team get punked.
Since there's not a prospect that jumps out with that WOW factor, and it's a very deep draft, it's going to be a buyer's market and Smith will have to adjust his asking price accordingly. I would be very happy swapping 2014 1st's, 2014 3rd and 4th, 2015 1st in a trade with Atlanta. It would be pretty much a sliding scale, as usual, though. The further down, the higher the price.

Short of being punked and swapping picks for a single extra pick and some cash, Smith can really only out negotiate himself. Unless the team is just dead set on 1-3 particular players. Hopefully, Smith mocked a trade with all 31 teams in the first. I'd be cool with dropping to 31 and getting a buttload of future picks.
clowney is the only wow player. hes the only player that gives a sellers market and right now were the team thats selling.
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clowney is the only wow player. hes the only player that gives a sellers market and right now were the team thats selling.
True, except he doesn't wow me. I know... big effing deal... lol

And I bet we would both be surprised at who he wows and how much, hence my post. Clowney is far from a slam dunk... and slam dunks get blown, too. All in all, that still makes it a buyer's market. This is a weak draft in terms of superstars, but very deep in good to very good players. I'll take 2-3 good prospects over one superstar prospect.

I try to keep in mind all of the busts, at every position, and not project NFL production because of collegiate production. The two are very different animals.
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Id be down for a swap to #2 if st Luis and Atlanta made a trade...IF we then traded back again with say maybe buffalo.

Sounds ridiculous I know but 2 teams get their trade back and 2 teams get their reward. Look, we've been talking trade down for literally 3 1/2 months now. Thats more then enough time to work such an elaborate deal. And the rams dont have to know squat about the 2nd trade. If a team tried to barter when we were #1 its not inconceivable they wouldnt at #2.
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Id be down for a swap to #2 if st Luis and Atlanta made a trade...IF we then traded back again with say maybe buffalo.

Sounds ridiculous I know but 2 teams get their trade back and 2 teams get their reward. Look, we've been talking trade down for literally 3 1/2 months now. Thats more then enough time to work such an elaborate deal. And the rams dont have to know squat about the 2nd trade. If a team tried to barter when we were #1 its not inconceivable they wouldnt at #2.
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Id be down for a swap to #2 if st Luis and Atlanta made a trade...IF we then traded back again with say maybe buffalo.

Sounds ridiculous I know but 2 teams get their trade back and 2 teams get their reward. Look, we've been talking trade down for literally 3 1/2 months now. Thats more then enough time to work such an elaborate deal. And the rams dont have to know squat about the 2nd trade. If a team tried to barter when we were #1 its not inconceivable they wouldnt at #2.
Atlanta would have to be in love with two players to make that trade before the draft, which is entirely possible with Clowney & Robinson. Could you imagine if Atlanta made that deal knowing Houston would pass on Clowney and then Houston traded down with Buffalo and they took Clowney? The egg that would be on Atlanta's face after the draft..
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I mostly agree with this, but don't want to see the team get punked.
Since there's not a prospect that jumps out with that WOW factor, and it's a very deep draft, it's going to be a buyer's market and Smith will have to adjust his asking price accordingly. I would be very happy swapping 2014 1st's, 2014 3rd and 4th, 2015 1st in a trade with Atlanta. It would be pretty much a sliding scale, as usual, though. The further down, the higher the price.

Short of being punked and swapping picks for a single extra pick and some cash, Smith can really only out negotiate himself. Unless the team is just dead set on 1-3 particular players. Hopefully, Smith mocked a trade with all 31 teams in the first. I'd be cool with dropping to 31 and getting a buttload of future picks.
No WOW factor? Did you not see Clowney jump over four bags and grab two tennis balls off the ground???
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No WOW factor? Did you not see Clowney jump over four bags and grab two tennis balls off the ground???
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Teams that have inquired about trading UP include DET, NYJ, CLEV (from 26), SF, HOU (from round 2 into 1), ATL (from round 2 into 1).
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That's what I'm talking about. Trade down a few spots and trade up to get two quality 1st rounders.
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