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Old 04-29-2014   #21
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Robinson & McCarron...... what's not to like.

Except, for the newbs it would be nice if you'd divulge who exactly the 3 Amigos are.

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Like the pick. It addresses one of the biggest weaknesses on this team with the best OT prospect in the draft.



Not a fan of McCarron. He had elite talent with him at Alabama and I don't think he will be as effective without that level of superior talent in the NFL.



This gives the Texans a nice option for whoever QB's this team.



Decent prospect but I question the bolded. I drafted him in our mock draft and from everything I gathered he played close to 90% of his snaps at Duke in zone coverage and his biggest question mark is how well he will do in man coverage.



I like all three picks but I don't think they will last this long in the actual draft.

Overall a really nice job guys.
Appreciate your opinions. You correctly state that McCarron had elite supporting cast at Alabama, my response is Andre, D.B., Myers, Brooks, Foster are very good. We add best OT in draft to RT, an extremely good TR in Fiedo who can offer another Olineman in power plays or block downfield or be the primary target. Many believe Quessenberry will start LG day one and be better than Smith. McCarron is very accurate passer and deadly in the short to intermediary zones. He is a leader with great IQ & focus should not be on him but on O'Brien to make him even better. We should also be interested in how Keenum does in this regime.
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While I agree with this I want to spend high picks on strengthening the trenches and adding much needed speed to the team. Buchanon does this and will probably add great value to ST's, so there's definitely a case to be made.
I love trench guys also and as BL noted my guy was Tuitt. What allowed me to compromise was Stephon Tuitt had an injury that appears to be healing could impact much needed time in TC. Also & more importantly, DBs sucked like straw at bottom of empty milkshake and Bucannon will start day one over Swearinger. We immediately improve this area especially when you add Cockrell as a corner. Not saying you implied this but Bucannon is much more than a ST guy. Also, I am telling ya to keep an eye on Carrether..93 tackles in one season at the nose! Who does that? We also think Smallwood starts day one and we've radically improved the defense.
Almost forgot Seattle's safety Earl Thomas just signed extension for $54 million & 27.3 guaranteed. Safeties matter.
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I'm down with any mock that includes Bucannon. He might be my favorite player in this draft. His stock is starting to heat up though.

I think he has a legit shot to go in 1st round ahead of Calvin Pryor and possibly HCD.
We debated/discussed this for days but think he has legitimate chance to be there.
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Not much debate regarding first overall pick (guess that's been overkill in other threads) regardless would like to see Clowney come visit Mr. Robinsons neighborhood, that would be worth price of admission
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Not much debate regarding first overall pick (guess that's been overkill in other threads) regardless would like to see Clowney come visit Mr. Robinsons neighborhood, that would be worth price of admission
Or Robinson visit Mr. Watt's neighborhood.

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1. Robinson, I have no problem here. He and Watkins are IMO the only 2 no doubt picks at 1.1.
2. Bucannon, I have no doubt that he's worth the pick but I think taking a Safety here overlooks much bigger needs at OLB, DT/DE, QB, and CB. Filling OLB here fixes the ILB position as well.
3. McCarron, if available I like the pick. He's not great at any one thing but good at alot of things and this pick would bring Katherine Webb to Houston, that's always a good thing.
4. Fido, I really like the player. I still think there are bigger needs but in the 4th we're getting into value and he's good value.
4b. Cockrell, CB is a definite need and although this might be a little early for him I can't argue the need and his developmental depth potential.
5. Smallwood, right round and good size for the position. Quality depth.
6. Johnson, I don't know anything about this guy but would like to see OLB addressed much earlier as I think pass rush is a bigger need than depth at Safety.
6b. Coleman, love this pick. Great size for the DE/DT position in our 3-4 system, not much of a pass rush be good at holding the LOS and stuffing the run.
6c. Carrethers, love this pick as well. He and Coleman should solidify our D-line depth concerns.
7. W. Johnson, decent developmental depth for the O-line and we surely need it.
7b. Houston, I don't know anything about this guy.

Overall I really like the mock, my only major concern is OLB and Safety. I'd switch 2 and 6a positional order. I'm also surprised you've got no WR or RB picks, though I know we can't fix everything in one draft.
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1. Robinson, I have no problem here. He and Watkins are IMO the only 2 no doubt picks at 1.1.
2. Bucannon, I have no doubt that he's worth the pick but I think taking a Safety here overlooks much bigger needs at OLB, DT/DE, QB, and CB. Filling OLB here fixes the ILB position as well.
3. McCarron, if available I like the pick. He's not great at any one thing but good at alot of things and this pick would bring Katherine Webb to Houston, that's always a good thing.
4. Fido, I really like the player. I still think there are bigger needs but in the 4th we're getting into value and he's good value.
4b. Cockrell, CB is a definite need and although this might be a little early for him I can't argue the need and his developmental depth potential.
5. Smallwood, right round and good size for the position. Quality depth.
6. Johnson, I don't know anything about this guy but would like to see OLB addressed much earlier as I think pass rush is a bigger need than depth at Safety.
6b. Coleman, love this pick. Great size for the DE/DT position in our 3-4 system, not much of a pass rush be good at holding the LOS and stuffing the run.
6c. Carrethers, love this pick as well. He and Coleman should solidify our D-line depth concerns.
7. W. Johnson, decent developmental depth for the O-line and we surely need it.
7b. Houston, I don't know anything about this guy.

Overall I really like the mock, my only major concern is OLB and Safety. I'd switch 2 and 6a positional order. I'm also surprised you've got no WR or RB picks, though I know we can't fix everything in one draft.
thanks for input.

in regards to Bucannon he was highest rated player, agreed by consensus, to be available pick #33. with such a great WR class teams will need premium/elite defenders even more badly. in terms of team needs secondary cannot be dismissed.
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1. Robinson, I have no problem here. He and Watkins are IMO the only 2 no doubt picks at 1.1.
2. Bucannon, I have no doubt that he's worth the pick but I think taking a Safety here overlooks much bigger needs at OLB, DT/DE, QB, and CB. Filling OLB here fixes the ILB position as well.
3. McCarron, if available I like the pick. He's not great at any one thing but good at alot of things and this pick would bring Katherine Webb to Houston, that's always a good thing.
4. Fido, I really like the player. I still think there are bigger needs but in the 4th we're getting into value and he's good value.
4b. Cockrell, CB is a definite need and although this might be a little early for him I can't argue the need and his developmental depth potential.
5. Smallwood, right round and good size for the position. Quality depth.
6. Johnson, I don't know anything about this guy but would like to see OLB addressed much earlier as I think pass rush is a bigger need than depth at Safety.
6b. Coleman, love this pick. Great size for the DE/DT position in our 3-4 system, not much of a pass rush be good at holding the LOS and stuffing the run.
6c. Carrethers, love this pick as well. He and Coleman should solidify our D-line depth concerns.
7. W. Johnson, decent developmental depth for the O-line and we surely need it.
7b. Houston, I don't know anything about this guy.

Overall I really like the mock, my only major concern is OLB and Safety. I'd switch 2 and 6a positional order. I'm also surprised you've got no WR or RB picks, though I know we can't fix everything in one draft.
If Crennel thinks Swearinger starts opposite one of the new FAs, you could be correct and someone like Van Noy in second could be the guy. Here's the thing, good OLBs can be selected in later rounds (as we did) not so with safeties. Bucannon is excellent value and in our opinion, beats out Swearinger game 1. I am not sold on new FAs, yet.

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First of, huge props to the Three Amigos! It is a tough task to put together something like this, so very impressive job overall!

Round 1, Pick 1: Auburn OT Greg Robinson, 6’5” 332 lbs

If I was going to go with OL, I would go with Jake Matthews over Greg Robinson. Matthews did an amazing job at LT playing in front of Johnny Manziel who was all over the place. In the A&M pass happy offense, Matthews showed his ability to take on rushers. The problem with Robinson is that Aurburn is an extreme run team and as such did not feature as much of a passing game. All of Robinson's stuff is projected based on athleticism. In addition, Matthews, like his father, had success all across the OL. He can play any of the 5 positions and could play them well. For versatility and experience, I would take Matthews. Robinson is not a bad choice, but from the standpoint of safety, Matthews is the safest pick in this draft rather than Robinson.

Round 2, Pick 33: Washington State S Deone Bucannon, 6’1” 211 lbs

I see him more as a SS than FS. If Saftey was taken here, I'd prefer more of a true FS like Jimmie Ward or Dion Bailey.


Round 3, Pick 65: Alabama QB AJ McCarron 6'3" 220 lbs


REALLY don't care for McCarron. Would much rather go with Aaron Murray at this point in the draft.

Round 4, Pick 101: Iowa TE CJ Fiedorowicz, 6’6” 265 lbs

Great selection! Tough kid. Has pass catching abilities and can make some blocks. In the style of the bigger, stronger, Gronk type of TEs.

Round 4, Pick 135: Duke CB, Ross Cockrell, 6’ 191 lbs

In a pass happy league you can never go wrong with more CBS. CBs can be converted into Safties or play on STs.

Round 5, Pick 141: UCONN ILB Yawin Smallwood, 6'2" 246 lbs

Outstanding selection. Not sure he lasts this long, but if he does, excellent selection.

Round 6, Pick 177: East Carolina OLB Derrell Johnson, 6’2” 257 lbs

Sometimes, its the small school player taken late in the draft who turns into something. Having a chip on your shoulder and trying to prove to the league that you should have been taken earlier can be great fuel for players. I don't know if he will make it, but from the limited I have seen, i like him.

Round 6, Pick 181: Cal DE DeAndre Coleman, 6'5" 314 lbs

Big Fan of DeAndre COleman. I like him as a 5 tech.

Round 6, Pick 211: Arkansas State NT Ryan Carrethers, 6'1" 337 lbs

LOVE this selection. Putting him and Coleman on the same DL would in essence clog up 4 Offensive players opening up lanes for Watt, the OLBs, and Cush.


Round 7, Pick 216: Vanderbilt OT/OG/C, Wesley Johnson, 6’5” 297 lbs


I see him more as a OG, but he would be a very nice addition at this point in the draft.

Round 7, Pick 256: Indiana RB/KR Stephen Houston, 5’11” 225 lbs

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First of, huge props to the Three Amigos! It is a tough task to put together something like this, so very impressive job overall!

Round 1, Pick 1: Auburn OT Greg Robinson, 6’5” 332 lbs

If I was going to go with OL, I would go with Jake Matthews over Greg Robinson. Matthews did an amazing job at LT playing in front of Johnny Manziel who was all over the place. In the A&M pass happy offense, Matthews showed his ability to take on rushers. The problem with Robinson is that Aurburn is an extreme run team and as such did not feature as much of a passing game. All of Robinson's stuff is projected based on athleticism. In addition, Matthews, like his father, had success all across the OL. He can play any of the 5 positions and could play them well. For versatility and experience, I would take Matthews. Robinson is not a bad choice, but from the standpoint of safety, Matthews is the safest pick in this draft rather than Robinson.
Understand your position, also really like Matthews bloodlines, but Luke Joeckel was the better tackle (LT) on same Texas A&M roster (went #2 overall to Jacksonville). Lately it seems like a plethora of outstanding tackle prospects, values escalate top of most teams draft boards not just because of needs but expense of retaining these elite monsters of the trenches. We decided as a collective Robinson was the one player we could all agree on, much like this board we each preferred a different QB, skeptical of Clowney reaction to NFL fame & fortune while focusing on making sure that whoever O'Brian does decide to turn into his franchise QB he can trust a cohesive dominant OL & improved running game especially in red zone. Robinson is the most powerful, athletically gifted OT I've seen since Texans franchise began.

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Round 2, Pick 33: Washington State S Deone Bucannon, 6’1” 211 lbs

I see him more as a SS than FS. If Saftey was taken here, I'd prefer more of a true FS like Jimmie Ward or Dion Bailey.
Interchangeable for sure, compliments Swearinger who seems more suited in the box not that Deone can't fill role as well but he has better range, ball instincts & wrap up tackling in last line of defense. Looks more like Rover type.

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Round 3, Pick 65: Alabama QB AJ McCarron 6'3" 220 lbs


REALLY don't care for McCarron. Would much rather go with Aaron Murray at this point in the draft.
QB is a conundrum isn't it? Everybody has they're guy for various reasons as such this was another consensus pick (three Amigo heads better than one). Murray may be the option here if McCarron off the board.

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Round 4, Pick 101: Iowa TE CJ Fiedorowicz, 6’6” 265 lbs

Great selection! Tough kid. Has pass catching abilities and can make some blocks. In the style of the bigger, stronger, Gronk type of TEs.
He would immediately replace Owen Daniels, bigger, stronger equally good route runner & hands.

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Round 4, Pick 135: Duke CB, Ross Cockrell, 6’ 191 lbs

In a pass happy league you can never go wrong with more CBS. CBs can be converted into Safties or play on STs.
Yes we do need secondary improvement, this is an underrated class with WR position garnering most attention but they who will cover them?

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Round 5, Pick 141: UCONN ILB Yawin Smallwood, 6'2" 246 lbs

Outstanding selection. Not sure he lasts this long, but if he does, excellent selection.
Might be able to flip with Cockrell, both need picks, both graded too close to call in our book.

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Round 6, Pick 177: East Carolina OLB Derrell Johnson, 6’2” 257 lbs

Sometimes, its the small school player taken late in the draft who turns into something. Having a chip on your shoulder and trying to prove to the league that you should have been taken earlier can be great fuel for players. I don't know if he will make it, but from the limited I have seen, i like him.
I've always been fond of ECU talent (underrated) but 65 pulled him out of his rankings to win us over & address OLB pass rush need.

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Round 6, Pick 181: Cal DE DeAndre Coleman, 6'5" 314 lbs

Big Fan of DeAndre COleman. I like him as a 5 tech.
Yes he already has experience in a 3-4 as well.

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Round 6, Pick 211: Arkansas State NT Ryan Carrethers, 6'1" 337 lbs

LOVE this selection. Putting him and Coleman on the same DL would in essence clog up 4 Offensive players opening up lanes for Watt, the OLBs, and Cush.
See him as quality depth & will see how Crennel develops him, conditioning will be very important for him.

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Round 7, Pick 216: Vanderbilt OT/OG/C, Wesley Johnson, 6’5” 297 lbs


I see him more as a OG, but he would be a very nice addition at this point in the draft.
For the very reasons who coveted Matthews, Johnson has same versatility with addition of Center. Looks like a ZBS tackle who can disengage & pull in cut block scheme, will have to get stronger & gain some weight but does have the frame giving Texans OL more depth

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Round 7, Pick 256: Indiana RB/KR Stephen Houston, 5’11” 225 lbs
Solid selection.
Hat's off to 65 for this selection as well. Would be novel idea this time around not to waste MR. Irrelevant on someone who can't crack the roster. Could fight to pick him up via un-drafted free agency (expect at least a couple backs to be added for camp) He posted a 40-inch vertical leap and an 11-foot-broad jump, bench pressed 225 pounds 24 times and also appeared to run a strong 40 time.

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Hello everyone! With the draft just a few short weeks away, here is the 3 Amigos' 2014 Mock Draft. As always, this mock is done under the assumption that no trades are made, as trades are just too unpredictable to deal with.

As for the mock, it was a tough one. There was a ton of debate, and I think we discussed every potential pick at 1.1 ad nauseam. The team has a lot of holes to fill, and, unfortunately, were not able to address them all. However, we took the best players available at each pick, and are very satisfied with the result.

I think that about covers my opening remarks... have at it! We encourage comments (about players, about our discussions, whatever), and will get back to any questions as soon as possible.

Round 1, Pick 1: Auburn OT Greg Robinson, 6’5” 332 lbs

With our first pick, we, after much debate, decided to use the first overall selection to land the draft’s premier tackle prospect. While the other candidates for the first overall pick have significant flaws, Robinson’s biggest flaw is the most correctable- inexperience. Due to Auburn’s style of offense, Robinson was not asked to pass block as much as some of the other draft-eligible tackles. However, film review shows that when called upon, Robinson is more than capable of protecting his QB. Furthermore, he is a mauler in the ground game, making him a day 1 starter at RT. Drafting Robinson gives the Texans flexibility in the future as it pertains to the OL, as he could either remain at RT or move to LT should Brown be traded, injured, or moved to LG or RT. Salary should not be a concern, as the rookie wage scale will help keep Robinson’s contract relatively low for the next handful of years.

Round 2, Pick 33: Washington State S Deone Bucannon, 6’1” 211 lbs

Four year starter, Pro-ready, day one starter for Texans. Brings range, size, ball hawking skills, physical presence & run support (384 tackles, 7 forced fumbles, 3 fumble recoveries & 15 interceptions). One of the best players in this draft few talk about w/exception of our own Texan Talk members.






After what seemed like weeks of back & forth in the war room the three Amigos concur, Deone offers solid value, fills a high priority need (exacerbated w/Daniel Manning release) who will work hard to earn his new teammates respect both on & off the field. Bucannon has been a consistent performer his whole life in football, he is smart, solid young man who was nicknamed Sulton of Swatt on fast track to become a valued weapon for Romeo Crennel & is Texan worthy.

Round 3, Pick 65: Alabama QB AJ McCarron 6'3" 220 lbs


Durable & started every game last three seasons. Well versed in pro style offense with only 4 losses (each against top 15 team). Finalist for Davey O'Brien and Walter Camp, Won Maxwell (player of year) & second in Heisman, won Johnny Unitas Golden Arm all in 2013. Very consistent QB that should translate quickly to NFL and will not lose many games himself. Very cerebral, comfortable under center or in gun, 67 % career & throws with accuracy on the run. Exhibits good wrist snap and mobile enough to evade first wave under duress remaining calm. Mature leader who was constantly "under the lights" with good decision making. Excellent caretaker ability to make all NFL throws but core strength is short to intermediary passes that are bread and butter with 4-1 TD to INT ratio. Very effective career passing on 3rd down. 2013: 3,063 67.3% YPA 9.12 24 TDS 4 INTs 10 inch hands.

Coaching staff is drooling to work with this player who can be face of team.

Biggest complaint is he had a great Oline and 3 Amigos are giving him the same to succeed in H'town!

Round 4, Pick 101: Iowa TE CJ Fiedorowicz, 6’6” 265 lbs
A 3 Amigos’ favorite, Fiedorowicz was a no-brainer here. Fiedo possesses the size necessary to be an inline blocker, but also the athleticism and hands to be a threat in the short and intermediate passing game. His versatility and old-school style of play will make him both a fan-favorite and a favorite of the coaching staff.

Round 4, Pick 135: Duke CB, Ross Cockrell, 6’ 191 lbs
Tall, angular CB for a retooled Texans secondary which was a high priority for three Amigos to address. Two time captain who excels in man coverage. Good ball skills, foot quickness, plays with leverage & goes for the strip. All time Duke leader in defended passes with 53. End of fourth based off minor medical condition for acl. Cockrell ran the 40-yard dash in 4.46 and 4.50 seconds, short shuttle in 4.20 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.92 seconds. He had a 39-inch vertical jump 10-foot-5 broad jump with 12 reps on bench. Notable match-up he faced 6’5” Texas A&M WR Mike Evans, holding him to four receptions, 72 yards & zero TD's. Cockrell has shown excellent closing speed and has displayed the ability to be a ball hawk, amassing twelve interceptions and forty pass deflections in his four years at Duke.

Round 5, Pick 141: UCONN ILB Yawin Smallwood, 6'2" 246 lbs
Red shirted 2010 then started 36 games Stats:
2011: 94 Ts 1.5 sacks, 3 pass break up 1 FF
2012: 120 -- 4.0 ---- 4 ---- and 2 FF
2013: 118--4.0 ----- 9 pass breakups 54 yd INT for TD and team captain.
MLB who was used in coverage even against WRs, keep eye on this player who could be even faster @ OLB. Hammy in combine. More fluid than Skov or Borland and has long arms with strong hands.

Round 6, Pick 177: East Carolina OLB Derrell Johnson, 6’2” 257 lbs

In an attempt to increase the defense’s ability to put pressure on the other teams’ quarterbacks, we elected to draft an experienced edge rusher at this point. As a four year starter (2 years at DE in a 4-3, 2 years at OLB in a 3-4), Johnson boasts a statistical resume that few in this class can match, notching 221 total tackles, 35 TFLs, and 19 sacks in his career. Known for being a tireless and relentless pass rusher, Johnson allayed concerns about his overall athleticism at his pro day, running a 4.61 forty (1.59 10 yard) despite an injured calf.

Round 6, Pick 181: Cal DE DeAndre Coleman, 6'5" 314 lbs
24 x 225 with broad shoulders, trim center with tree trunks for legs, good power POA, strong upper body and arms that allows him to shred blocks & get hands on ball carrier. Played all 37 games last three years, uses bull rush and will be utilize in NFL to stuff run as either nose or 5 Tech.
2014 combine enjoyed fine day against Gabe Ikard and Travis Swanson proving more athletic. May have allowed team's 2013 record to affect his play. Appears ready to step up and earn an NFL contract.

Round 6, Pick 211: Arkansas State NT Ryan Carrethers, 6'1" 337 lbs

26 inch vert. In 2013 had 93 tackles and two blocked kicks. Low body weight in comparison to the other "fatties" and can "lift a house" with wrestling background college; 2 gap ability who will earn his salary clogging middle with solid anchor to contain double teams. He will become known for telling Watt "go ahead, I got this."

Round 7, Pick 216: Vanderbilt OT/OG/C, Wesley Johnson, 6’5” 297 lbs


First team All-SEC. Has played every OL position for Vanderbilt against best competition in the nation. Moves well in pass pro mirrors & kick-step like a seasoned pro has faced Clowney & given up only one sack per season last two years. Looks like a typical Patriot OL with rough beard mountain man like exterior but don't be fooled by appearance, Johnson is a two-time SEC Academic Honor Roll recipient. New England Patriots coach did take time while in Nashville (to run the Rock & Roll Half Marathon) to oversee a private workout from Johnson despite being slightly undersized but exceptionally athletic tackle who excels in the open field with his ability to pull and lead stretch plays. In ironic twist Vanderbilt Head Coach James Franklin left to take over the Penn State football program.

Round 7, Pick 256: Indiana RB/KR Stephen Houston, 5’11” 225 lbs
Meet Mr. Irrelevant; a bowling ball of a back with speed (4.52 forty), power, and explosiveness (40” vertical, 11’ broad jump). Houston did not have a decorated career at IU, but did average 5.4 yards per attempt and tallied 25 TDs over his 3 years in Bloomington. He brings value as a receiver and as a returner, and will leave dents in defenders trying to tackle him.
I would kill for this draft. Don't like the seventh rounders but whippee poo! Don't know anything about the CB from duke. Do believe we will take at least one CB in this draft. Just haven't watched much film on CBs this year. Everyone else in this mock is on my list of hopeful Texans.
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appreciate it mussop

Your confession on Cockrell is a prime indicator how some prospects filter under radar & become late mid round gems. Combination with Bucannon a big boost to otherwise disguised need on most peoples mock boards. Keep maintaining that teams who overlook secondary this draft will be sorry next year then overcompensate for need following draft because of all the exceptional WR talent entering this year. Even though Cockrell played @ Duke he did face at least two big top rated WR's in this class Mike Evans & Kelvin Benjamin.
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Your confession on Cockrell is a prime indicator how some prospects filter under radar & become late mid round gems. Combination with Bucannon a big boost to otherwise disguised need on most peoples mock boards. Keep maintaining that teams who overlook secondary this draft will be sorry next year then overcompensate for need following draft because of all the exceptional WR talent entering this year. Even though Cockrell played @ Duke he did face at least two big top rated WR's in this class Mike Evans & Kelvin Benjamin.
Admit idly I don't scout secondary too much. Without having all 22 video it's just to hard to know what's going on back there.
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I'm terrible at evaluating DB's. CB's in particular.
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Like I said without video of all 22 players at a time It's impossible to evaluate the secondary. They are out of the picture 98% of the time on televised games.
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First off, I don't know jack about the draft like a lot of you guys, but I still feel compelled to state my opinion anyway, so pound-of-salt and all that.

I'm OK with not taking a QB at #1-1, especially if there is a trade-down, but going all the way down to McCarron/3rd round I'm NOT. I am OK with Robinson @ 1-1. It's a good idea, in fact. I also like the safety pick in the 2nd, but I want a QB by the time we have selected with that 2-1 pick; so, while I'm fine with Robinson and the safety, I'm not fine with both of them, unless there is a QB added in there somewhere.

That's my beef. Now those of you who actually know what you're talking about can continue, with my express permission.
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First off, I don't know jack about the draft like a lot of you guys, but I still feel compelled to state my opinion anyway, so pound-of-salt and all that.

I'm OK with not taking a QB at #1-1, especially if there is a trade-down, but going all the way down to McCarron/3rd round I'm NOT. I am OK with Robinson @ 1-1. It's a good idea, in fact. I also like the safety pick in the 2nd, but I want a QB by the time we have selected with that 2-1 pick; so, while I'm fine with Robinson and the safety, I'm not fine with both of them, unless there is a QB added in there somewhere.

That's my beef. Now those of you who actually know what you're talking about can continue, with my express permission.
appreciate your comments. Other than Bridgewater (and I disagree he will be there) there is no QB better than McCarron in second round and if you can get AJ where we think it was a no brainer. If gone, we would probably take Murray.

There have been rumors that Houston will trade down from #33. In that scenario, I'd be interested in Garoppolo later in second.
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First off, I don't know jack about the draft like a lot of you guys, but I still feel compelled to state my opinion anyway, so pound-of-salt and all that.

I'm OK with not taking a QB at #1-1, especially if there is a trade-down, but going all the way down to McCarron/3rd round I'm NOT. I am OK with Robinson @ 1-1. It's a good idea, in fact. I also like the safety pick in the 2nd, but I want a QB by the time we have selected with that 2-1 pick; so, while I'm fine with Robinson and the safety, I'm not fine with both of them, unless there is a QB added in there somewhere.

That's my beef. Now those of you who actually know what you're talking about can continue, with my express permission.
In a perfect world, Luck would be there #1 but he is not. Without ability to project a trade up in the 1st (if one of the top 3 QB's drops) we choose not to reach or make unreasonable projection (one of the top three dropping to #33). I'm so amazed @ big time media personality projecting them to fall, we toyed with idea but thought it to be not in keeping with this knowledgable fan base who visits these parts & considered as friends, no intention of insulting anyones intelligence.

McCarron is sort of a compromise pick, meaning he is not your ideal franchise QB (hence late 2nd early 3rd rd. grade) but he does possess the size, leadership & experience Bill O'Brian might endear himself to. Let him watch & learn while Fitz runs Texans offense & let the team as a whole gel in new system. When he is ready then give him reps, not before.

Robinson & Bucannon we felt are both elite talents for their positions & instant starters for Texans improving both defense & offense.
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