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Old 04-21-2014   #21
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Moving the draft back two weeks was just stupid.
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Moving the draft back two weeks was just stupid.
Agree. If they want to keep it in May, add 2 rounds to the draft and 10 team visits. If we continue to see underclassmen declarations swell, leaves too much talent on the table as UDFAs imo.
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I bet the "trade into 1-1" phone has not rung one time yet, with the draft pushed back. Other than the good-hair brothers already having a conditional trade in place, I don't think much will happen until the week of the draft. Playing chicken.
I'd take that bet, guessing that what's been offered hasn't been met with appropriate enthusiasm.
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Default Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney

If RS prefers Mack to Clowney, that at least makes two of us. I do too.

Either way, I suspect the friend of RS is actually not any more of a friend then the teenager who goes into the drug store saying his "friend" needs a pack of condoms.

It's RS putting out smoke screens and trying to draw a trading partner. I think they want to trade down bad. Don't think it happens - but I think they would like too.
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Agree. If they want to keep it in May, add 2 rounds to the draft and 10 team visits. If we continue to see underclassmen declarations swell, leaves too much talent on the table as UDFAs imo.
That would require NFLPA approval.
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They do love Clowney. 9 to 1 is a loooong way to go though RT @buffalobills1: @RapSheet Are the rumors of the Bills moving to 1 have any merits?

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I bet the "trade into 1-1" phone has not rung one time yet, with the draft pushed back. Other than the good-hair brothers already having a conditional trade in place, I don't think much will happen until the week of the draft. Playing chicken.
I bet that phone has rang a few time, if just to get an idea of how badly the Texans want to trade or feel them out for their price.

I agree that nothing will come of it til the draft is nearer. And I hope something does happen. I don't want to see the Texans picking at 1.1
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Either way, I suspect the friend of RS is actually not any more of a friend then the teenager who goes into the drug store saying his "friend" needs a pack of condoms.
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Smoke screen or valid is the question?
Both. Mack may be a better player for our scheme, but I think all of this is being done to facilitate a trade down by pumping up other players.
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Default Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney

Honestly, I wouldn't mind the Texans drafting Khalil Mack provided it's a trade down. He not only feels a dire need, but is better suited to the position than Clowney. But 'tis the season of lies and deception, so take everything out there with a grain of salt.
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Both. Mack may be a better player for our scheme, but I think all of this is being done to facilitate a trade down by pumping up other players.
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind the Texans drafting Khalil Mack provided it's a trade down. He not only feels a dire need, but is better suited to the position than Clowney. But 'tis the season of lies and deception, so take everything out there with a grain of salt.
I keep thinking back to Mario Williams and the hella fast start he got off to as a 3-4 OLB and wondering what might have been.
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Default Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney

Peter King is a blithering idiot...

Heard about this article by Peter King and who he thinks the Texans should pick #1. Now I know this is his opinion but this has got to be the dumbest opinion by a journalist I have seen yet, aside from hearing that some NFL executive compared Teddy Bridgewater to "Steamin" Willie Beamen, a fictitious football character...

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Houston, at No. 1, isn’t set on Jadeveon Clowney. In fact, one FORS (Friend of Rick Smith) told me the Texans general manager likes Khalil Mack over Clowney, and we still don’t know which quarterback Houston would choose if it chooses one first overall. I still think the Texans would go with a more sure thing with the first overall pick than a quarterback—and that sure thing could also be tackle Greg Robinson. But imagine Mack, the outside linebacker from the University of Buffalo, being the first pick in a stacked draft. Wouldn’t that be something—a second straight Mid-American Conference player (Eric Fisher, Central Michigan, by Kansas City) as the top pick in the NFL draft?
Mack at #1 is extreme but Greg Robinson at #1 is just flat out stupid...IMO

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I'd call the piece more "reporting" than "journalism"... garbage in/garbage out... sometimes (like these pre-draft times) these guys allow themselves to be used as conduits. As long as it's not personal attacks on these kids, I recognize it as part of the process and accept it for what it's worth.


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I hate the late draft... why did they push it back again?

Mack shouldn`t be in the discussion for the #1 pick. If you are not sold on any player that teams in the top 5 would most likely select, then trade down. Mack is a great player, and I would be happy if we took him with, say the 6th pick. But so would I with Robinson, Watkins and a bunch of other guys.

Id say either take the QB you like, or take Clowney. Maybe Robinson desevers to be in the discussion - and a big maybe around Watkins. Nobody else should be in the discussion.
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I hate the late draft... why did they push it back again?
For an event that didn't even take place. The people booked for Radio City Music Hall canceled their production, so the place will be sitting there empty.


I'd have much preferred they moved the location... like Toyota Center, or the George R Brown.
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For an event that didn't even take place. The people booked for Radio City Music Hall canceled their production, so the place will be sitting there empty.


I'd have much preferred they moved the location... like Toyota Center, or the George R Brown.
I heard a another reason was it was sweeps month and ESPN/ABC wanted to dominate the ratings that week...
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I heard a another reason was it was sweeps month and ESPN/ABC wanted to dominate the ratings that week...
Then they need to move the pro bowl to that week. Great for ratings.
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I would prefer Rick Smith not have anything to do with the draft or for that matter the Texans org. 2-14.
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You should put that in your signature block...just so you can stop beating that dead horse.
Not beating a dead horse

Just pointing out he's the GM of a 2-14 team. So his thoughts should be held in very low opinion. Unless you're OK with 2-14.
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Not beating a dead horse

Just pointing out he's the GM of a 2-14 team. So his thoughts should be held in very low opinion. Unless you're OK with 2-14.
While I don`t disagree - his draft track record isn`t bad. A couple of home runs, a couple of real good picks, and a couple of bad picks. Last seasons roster shouldn`t have been a 2-14 team - in fact most people expected it to be a playoff team.
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