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Old 01-18-2014   #21
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The biggest change in position rankings comes after all the underclassmen declare for the draft. When you consider that roughly 250 players get drafted each year and you inject 100 new underclassmen into the pool that is over 30%. 30% can create quite a bit of change in positional rankings.

Mike Mayock and Greg Cosell do watch a ton of tape. I've heard Cosell say he watches over 40 hours a week of players video. Cosell says scouts don't watch tape of every game of every player, usually on average they watch 3 or so games of a players best competition.

Cosell's main knock on Geno Smith was that he had slow eyes.

If you want to be better informed following @gregcosell is the best place to start.

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1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-6, 268, 4.65)*: There is no denying that by registering only three sacks (and zero forced fumbles) in the 2013 regular season, Clowney has failed to live up to expectations. He also enflamed concerns about his maturity with a Dec. 7 speeding ticket in which he was clocked at 110 mph. Clowney's red flags are real, but so is his talent. In 13 years of grading prospects for the NFL Draft, Clowney competes only with former No. 2 overall pick Julius Peppers (2002) as the most gifted I've ever seen.
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1. Of the South's quarterbacks, Fresno State's Derek Carr unquestionably possesses the best arm. The ball explodes out of his hand and caught a few of his new teammates by surprise with how quickly it got to them. Carr showed good anticipation, often delivering passes before his receivers turned back to look for the ball.

2. Eastern Illinois quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo continued the positive momentum he'd gained from the East-West Shrine Game with an impressive initial practice. While he does not possess Carr's howitzer, Garoppolo has a very quick set-up and release and frequently threw led his receivers away from defenders, showing better ball-placement than Carr on several of his throws.

3. On the defensive side of the ball, Oklahoma cornerback Aaron Colvin demonsrated good speed and fluidity in coverage, as well as excellent leaping ability and timing to knock away passes.

4. Tennessee right tackle Ju'Wuan James hasn't received a lot of fanfare but he is a smooth athlete at 6-foot-6, 315 pounds. He was beaten on occasion but plays with terrific knee bend and got to the second level during scrimmages.

5. As impressive James was, arguably the most impressive offensive lineman of the day was North Dakota State's Billy Turner, who possesses a very similar build at 6-foot-5, 316 pounds. Unlike James, Turner struggles a bit with leverage, bending at the waist rather than the knees but he has strong hands and is a good athlete who projects as a quality NFL starter with a little refinement. His upside could push Turner into the top 100 picks, if he isn't there already.

6. Given his 6-foot-2, 243-pound frame, perhaps it isn't surprising that Auburn's Dee Ford was the most explosive of the South's pass-rushers but he certainly showed the burst to catch the attention of every scout in the stands. Ford is stronger than his size indicates and carried over the strong senior campaign that helped his Tigers qualify for the national championship game into Monday's practice.

7. While Ford played well, his former Auburn teammates, Chris Davis, struggled a bit fielding punts early in the practice. Davis has a tendency to allow the ball to hit his chest plate, which results in some double-clutching. Oklahoma's Jalen Saunders also struggled in this area. The former Sooners' star also dropped a couple of passes.

8. San Jose State quarterback David Fales is more of a gamer than a practice-guy but his lack of ideal arm-strength, unfortunately, stood out in comparison to Carr and, to a lesser-extent, Garoppolo. Fales telegraphed some throws (including a short pass over the middle that was intercepted by LSU linebacker Lamin Barrow) and his passes to the perimeter had too much air under them.

9. Arizona State defensive tackle Will Sutton didn't have the most impressive weigh-in but he showed off his athleticism with a terrific spin move to beat Arkansas center Travis Swanson (who was playing guard) during one-on-one drills late in practice.

10. Of the linebackers, I was most impressed with BYU's Kyle Van Noy, who frequently is lauded for his ability at the line of scrimmage but showed off his fluidity and instincts in coverage by closing quickly to bat away multliple passes.
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1. Jadeveon Clowney*, DE, South Carolina (6-feet-6, 268 pounds)

2. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M (6-5, 305)

3. Greg Robinson*, OT, Auburn (6-5, 320)

4. Teddy Bridgewater*, QB, Louisville (6-3, 220)

5. Sammy Watkins*, WR, Clemson (6-1, 200)

6. Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA (6-4, 238)

7. Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo (6-3, 248)

8. Blake Bortles*, QB, Central Florida (6-3, 230)

9. C.J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama (6-2, 232)

10. Marqise Lee*, WR, Southern Cal (6-0, 195)

11. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State (5-11, 197)

12. Eric Ebron*, TE, North Carolina (6-4, 245)

13. Johnny Manziel*, QB, Texas A&M (5-11, 210)

14. Mike Evans*, WR, Texas A&M (6-5, 225)

15. Zach Martin, OL, Notre Dame (6-4, 308)

16. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan (6-7, 310)

17. Stephon Tuitt*, DL, Notre Dame (6-5, 303)

18. Cyrus Kouandjio*, OT, Alabama (6-5, 312)

19. Jace Amaro*, TE, Texas Tech (6-5, 260)

20. Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State (6-2, 215)

21. Ryan Shazier*, OLB, Ohio State (6-2, 226)

22. Kony Ealy*, DE, Missouri (6-5, 275)

23. Calvin Pryor*, FS, Louisville (6-2, 208)

24. Timmy Jernigan*, DT, Florida State (6-2, 298)

25. Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State (6-0, 200)

26. Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU (6-3, 244)

27. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota (6-6, 318)

28. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU (5-10, 182)

29. Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State (5-10, 186)

30. Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh (6-1, 288)

31. Marcus Roberson*, CB, Florida (6-0, 195)

32. Scott Crichton*, DE, Oregon State (6-3, 265)

Just missed the cut
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix*, FS, Alabama
Ka'Deem Carey*, RB, Arizona
Bradley Roby*, CB, Ohio State
Dee Ford, DE/OLB, Auburn
Troy Niklas*, TE, Notre Dame
Xavier Su'a-Filo*, G, UCLA
Allen Robinson*, WR, Penn State
Kelcy Quarles*, DT, South Carolina
David Yankey*, G, Stanford
William Sutton, DT, Arizona State
Kelvin Benjamin*, WR, Florida State
Austin Seferian-Jenkins*, TE, Washington
Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
Jarvis Landry*, WR, LSU
Marcus Smith, OLB, Louisville
Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford
Davante Adams*, WR, Fresno State

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Adding Dane Brugler's content here as both are CBSSports...

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1. Teddy Bridgewater QB, Louisville (6-2, 205, 4.67, JR)
Yes, his slender frame isn't ideal and his deep ball accuracy needs work. But Bridgewater succeeds with his mobility, arm talent and efficient ability above the neck. He is a pro-style passer who is grounded, mature and has shown the ability to easily digest information.

2. Jadeveon Clowney DE, South Carolina (6-5, 274, 4.56, JR)
A freak athlete with a very high NFL ceiling, Clowney has an explosive first step and accelerates quickly up the field to effectively disrupt the offensive gameplan. The effort concerns are real, but the potential and natural talent make the risk worth it.

3. Gregory Robinson OT, Auburn (6-5, 320, 4.98, rSO)
A two-year starter at left tackle, Robinson is an impressive athlete for his large frame with the quickness, agility and overall body control to cover a large area. His pass protection is still developing, but he is a devastating run blocker with a mean punch.

4. Khalil Mack DE/OLB, Buffalo (6-3, 248, 4.64, rSR)
A versatile, relentless pass rusher, Mack was extremely productive in college and holds several career NCAA records, including forced fumbles (16) and tackles for loss (75). He is always around the ball with his combination of speed, power and awareness.

5. Jake Matthews OT, Texas A&M (6-5, 305, 5.06, SR)
Probably the “safest” prospect in this class, Matthews started three seasons at right tackle before moving to the left side in 2013. He is a technically-sound blocker with good quickness and balance to protect the pocket against speed and hold up in space.

6. Anthony Barr OLB, UCLA (6-4, 248, 4.48, 4SR)
A former running back, Barr moved to pass rusher last season and excelled at backer for the Bruins, totaling 41.5 tackles for loss the past two seasons. He needs to refine some technical aspects of his game, but his speed/strength off the edge is exciting.

7. Sammy Watkins WR, Clemson (6-1, 205, 4.47, JR)
Watkins set several Clemson and ACC records over the past three years and is an exciting player to watch when he has the ball. He needs some polish in a few areas, but he has above average vision and acceleration and projects as a borderline WR1/WR2 in the NFL.

8. Eric Ebron TE, North Carolina (6-4, 245, 4.67, JR)
A wide receiver in a tight end's body, Ebron is a freakish athlete with the ability to make highlight-reel catches look easy. He is a work-in-progress as a blocker and will drop some easy ones, but his fluid athleticism and playmaking ability at the position are near elite.

9. Blake Bortles QB, UCF (6-3, 230, 4.78, rJR)
From both a physical and mental standpoint, Bortles is the most intriguing quarterback in this draft class. He needs some time to refine his talent and continue to develop, but he has a full toolbox and flashes plays reminiscent of Andrew Luck as a prospect.

10. Mike Evans WR, Texas A&M (6-5, 225, 4.58, rSO)
A physical, imposing target, Evans was Johnny Football's No. 1 target and safety valve in College Station the past two seasons. He isn't the fastest or most fluid athlete, but he boxes out defenders and has a large catching radius to dominate at the catch point.

11. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix FS, Alabama (6-1, 208, 4.54, JR)
12. Taylor Lewan OT, Michigan (6-7, 315, 5.09, rSR)
13. Louis Nix DT, Notre Dame (6-2, 345, 5.17, rJR)
14. Calvin Pryor FS, Louisville (6-2, 208, 4.57, JR)
15. CJ Mosley OLB/ILB, Alabama (6-2, 232, 4.65, SR)
16. Marcus Roberson CB, Florida (6-0, 195, 4.52, JR)
17. Zack Martin OG, Notre Dame (6-4, 305, 5.22, rSR)
18. Justin Gilbert CB, Oklahoma State (6-0, 200, 4.52, SR)
19. Jace Amaro TE, Texas Tech (6-5, 260, 4.67, JR)
20. Darqueze Dennard CB, Michigan State (5-11, 197, 4.52, SR)
21. Carl Bradford OLB, Arizona State (6-1, 243, 4.73, rJR)
22. Kony Ealy DE, Missouri (6-5, 275, 4.77, rJR)
23. Aaron Donald DT, Pittsburgh (6-1, 288, 4.93, SR)
24. Ryan Shazier OLB, Ohio State (6-2, 230, 4.58, JR)
25. Derek Carr QB, Fresno State (6-2, 215, 4.78, rSR)
26. Allen Robinson WR, Penn State (6-3, 210, 4.54, JR)
27. Scott Crichton DE, Oregon State (6-3, 265, 4.73, rJR)
28. Cyrus Kouandijio OT, Alabama (6-5, 310, 5.12, JR)
29. Jason Verrett CB, TCU (5-10, 176, 4.49, SR)
30. Brandin Cooks WR, Oregon State (5-10, 186, 4.49, JR)
31. Kyle Van Noy OLB, BYU (6-3, 244, 4.68, SR)
32. Troy Niklas TE, Notre Dame (6-6, 270, 4.84, JR)
33. Dee Ford DE/OLB, Auburn (6-2, 243, 4.72, SR)
34. Xavier Su'a-Filo OG, UCLA (6-3, 305, 5.18, JR)
35. LaMarcus Joyner FS, Florida State (5-8, 190, 4.52, SR)
36. Antonio Richardson OT, Tennessee (6-6, 327, 5.16, JR)
37. Dominique Easley DT, Florida (6-2, 285, 4.93, SR)
38. Johnny Manziel QB, Texas A&M (6-0, 210, 4.45, rSO)
39. Marqise Lee WR, USC (6-0, 195, 4.49, JR)
40. Kyle Fuller CB, Virginia Tech (6-0, 194, 4.45, SR)
41. Jarvis Landry WR, LSU (5-11, 193, 4.49, JR)
42. Odell Beckham WR, LSU (6-0, 195, 4.49, JR)
43. David Yankey OG, Stanford (6-5, 314, 5.08, rJR)
44. Ra'Shede Hageman DT, Minnesota (6-6, 318, 4.89, rSR)
45. Jimmie Ward SS, Northern Illinois (5-11, 191, 4.59, SR)
46. Billy Turner OG, North Dakota State (6-5, 316, 5.28, rSR)
47. Timmy Jernigan DT, Florida State (6-2, 298, 4.98, JR)
48. Kelvin Benjamin WR, Florida State (6-5, 235, 4.54, rSO)
49. Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE, Washington (6-6, 276, 4.75, JR)
50. Bradley Roby CB, Ohio State (5-11, 192, 4.39, rJR)
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I'm not hating on Derek Carr. I've watched some of his cut-ups & he's got potential.

But I don't understand how "everyone" has him rated higher than someone like Aj McCarron. I understand the knocks on McCarron... still don't understand how Derek Carr is seen as a 1st round talent but McCarron may slide to late in the third or further.
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2014 Senior Bowl: Auburn's Dee Ford headlines list of Risers-Fallers
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Helped Themselves:

Dee Ford, DE, Auburn - Ford impressed with a chiseled..

Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh - It was Donald, not...

Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois - Scouts knew heading into the Senior Bowl that Ward...

Crockett Gillmore, TE, Colorado State - Gilmore came in late to the Senior Bowl...

Weston Richburg, OC, Colorado State - ...

Brandon Thomas, OL, Clemson - The unquestioned top offensive lineman...

Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton - The well-built Ivy Leaguer...

Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia - At 6-foot-6, 325 pounds, Moses possesses...

Ryan Grant, WR, Tulane - At a rock-solid 6-0, 197 pounds, Grant showed surprising...

Christian Kirksey, OLB, Iowa - The Big Ten remains one of college football's...

Missed Opportunity:

Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson - Despite media reports to the contrary, Boyd's inaccuracy...

Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor - At 6-foot-4, 344 pounds...

Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt - Matthews' production...

Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State - Sutton's...

Stephen Morris, QB, Miami - Morris earned the nickname...
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2014 NFL Draft: Finding the Fits for top QB prospects
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When the Houston Texans are on the clock May 8 -- assuming they keep the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft -- there will be no slam dunk Andrew Luck-type prospect to fill their pressing need for a franchise quarterback.

Instead, there is a gripping debate developing over just who is the best quarterback prospect in this class. And the answer is, it will be in the eyes of the beholder come draft day. While Louisville junior Teddy Bridgewater remains NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated passer and No. 3 prospect overall, Central Florida redshirt junior Blake Bortles and Texas A&M redshirt sophomore Johnny Manziel are also projected top-10 picks.

Some scouts rate Bortles, Manziel or both ahead of Bridgewater. All three are projected as top-five picks in my current Mock Draft, as well as that of Dane Brugler, despite his significant concerns about Manziel's decision-making.

Each boasts tantalizing talent along with significant red flags, and below is a look at which quarterbacks would be the best fit -- and worst fit -- for teams with top-10 picks potentially in the market to draft a quarterback, taking into account skill sets, offensive schemes, weather conditions and other factors.

No. 1: Houston Texans
Best fit: Bridgewater

Given that the Texans boast considerable talent on both sides of the ball and are perhaps just some consistency at quarterback away from once again competing for an AFC South crown, Bridgewater is the most logical and safe selection.

The reason is simple -- he's the most accurate passer in the draft. Bridgewater's 68.3 career completion percentage wasn't manufactured by easy reads in the spread offense -- he displayed the ability to read defenses quickly and Pro Bowl-caliber ball placement. He is technically sound, very intelligent and a good, if underutilized, athlete.

His game is an easy projection to new coach Bill O'Brien's offense, a short, timing-based attack he implemented at Penn State and previously with the New England Patriots.

Good fit: Bortles

Bridgewater is pro-ready, but his slight frame is a legitimate concern. Listed at 6-feet-3 and 205 pounds, he's naturally lean and even a concerted effort to pack on good weight before the draft could be far-fetched (watch for his weigh-in numbers at the scouting combine).

That's part of the platform for Bortles (6-3, 230) gaining traction as a fit in Houston. Bortles has instincts and poise to go along with a strong arm and good athleticism. Bortles also led UCF to a victory over O'Brien's Nittany Lions in Happy Valley, drawing effusive praise from the coach following the loss. Further, O'Brien will get the straight scoop from Knights head coach George O'Leary. O'Brien coached for seven years under O'Leary at Georgia Tech and the two remain close.

Poor fit: Manziel

Johnny Football's undeniable playmaking ability and regional appeal give him a puncher's chance at pulling the upset, though in many ways he's the riskiest of the three top quarterbacks. His improvisational skills are mesmerizing but aren't necessarily an ideal match in O'Brien's scheme...

No. 3: Jacksonville Jaguars
Best fit:...
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Big Board: Clowney remains on top; Bridgewater tops QB class
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1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-5, 266, 4.53)*: There is no question Clowney failed to live up to expectations in 2013 from a statistical standpoint but as he demonstrated in Indianapolis, the South Carolina star possesses a once-in-a-generation combination of size and explosiveness. Whether at defensive end or outside linebacker in a 3-4 alignment, he'll make an immediate impact in the NFL -- precisely why he has been my top-rated prospect since last spring.

2. OT Greg Robinson, Auburn (6-5, 332, 4.92)* : Physical and tenacious, Robinson is a grizzly bear in the running game, mauling opponents with an exciting blend of size, strength and athleticism. Auburn's reliance on the running game, however, provided Robinson few opportunities in pass protection. With some polish, he could prove an Orlando Pace-like presence in the NFL.

3. OLB Khalil Mack, Buffalo (6-3, 251, 4.65): With an FBS-record 16 career forced fumbles and record-tying 75 career tackles for loss, Mack's statistics jump off the page. Against the most gifted opponents he faced last year (Ohio State, Baylor, Connecticut), it was his game that jumped off the screen. His size, instincts and agility as an edge rusher make him equally intriguing to teams operating out of a 4-3 or 3-4 alignment. That versatility will almost certainly land him a spot in the top six. Some even view him as a dark horse candidate for the Texans at No. 1 overall.

4. OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 308, 5.07)

5. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson (6-1, 211, 4.43)*

6. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-2, 214, 4.67)*: In an era in which college quarterbacks' numbers are often inflated by short passes and relatively simplistic schemes, Bridgewater's sparkling production was due to Pro Bowl-caliber accuracy in the critical short to intermediate levels. His success (71 percent completion rate with 31 touchdowns against just four interceptions) came out of a pro-style offense that required him to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage and complete NFL throws. His slight frame is a legitimate concern and he's not an elite deep ball passer, but he has shown great toughness over his career. Bridgewater did not throw at the combine, electing to wait until his pro pay March 17.

7. OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA (6-5, 255, 4.66)

8. QB Blake Bortles, Central Florida* (6-5, 232, 4.93): A prototypically-built pocket passer with good awareness, athleticism and arm talent, Bortles looks the part of an NFL star quarterback. He also played well against top talent (including South Carolina, Penn State and Baylor) and impressed me with his willingness to compete at the combine. He was good -- not great -- during his workout in Indianapolis, remaining a bit methodical in his set-up and delivery of the ball and a bit inconsistent with his accuracy. His upside will earn him the top ranking at quarterback for some, but it is not accurate to characterize him as a "can't miss" prospect.

9. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State (5-11, 199, 4.52)

10. DE Kony Ealy, Missouri (6-4, 273, 4.92)*

11. CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State (6-0, 202, 4.37)

12. OLB C.J. Mosley, Alabama (6-2, 234, 4.65)

13. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M (6-0, 207, 4.68)*: Manziel's vision, elusiveness and accuracy while on the move make him a magician in the improvisational game. Red flags were raised with mediocre performances against LSU and Missouri to end the regular season, however, as each team was able to contain his backyard-style of play by penning him in the pocket. Unable to create throwing lanes with his legs, Manziel struggled, raising concerns about his anticipation and accuracy in a muddied pocket. Manziel could have alleviated some of their concerns by throwing well at the combine, but skipped the passing drills to focus on his March 27 pro day. However, I was impressed with his composure at the podium in Indianapolis.

14. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M (6-5, 231, 4.53)*

15. OL Zack Martin, Notre Dame (6-4, 308, 5.22)

16. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State (6-1, 237, 4.58)*

17. DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 299, 5.06)*

18. DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh (6-1, 285, 4.68)

19. OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 309, 4.87)

20. WR Marqise Lee, Southern Cal (6-0, 192, 4.52)*

21. FS Calvin Pryor, Louisville (5-11, 207, 4.58)*

22. DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame (6-2, 331, 5.42)*

23. TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina (6-4, 250, 4.60)*

24. FS Hasean Clinton-Dix, Alabama* (6-1, 208, 4.58)*

25. DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-5, 304, 4.92)*

26. DE/OLB Dee Ford, Auburn (6-2, 252, 4.67)

27. CB Jason Verrett, TCU (5-09, 189, 4.38)

28. OG Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA (6-4, 307, 5.04)*

29. OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU (6-3, 243, 4.71)

30. DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 310, 5.02)

31. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State (5-10, 189, 4.33)d.

32. QB Derek Carr, Fresno State (6-2, 214, 4.69)

Just missed the cut:

WR Odell Beckham, LSU*
FS Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois
DE Scott Crichton, Oregon State*
CB Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama*
OC Marcus Martin, Southern California*
CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State*
TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame*
DE/OLB Trent Murphy, Stanford
DT DaQuan Jones, Penn State
WR Donte Moncrief, Mississippi*
OT Morgan Moses, Virginia
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington*
CB Marcus Roberson, Florida*
DT Will Sutton, Arizona State
WR Davante Adams, Fresno State*
WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State*
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1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-5, 266, 4.53)
2. OT Greg Robinson, Auburn (6-5, 332, 4.92)
3. OLB Khalil Mack, Buffalo (6-3, 251, 4.65)
4. OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 308, 5.07)
5. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson (6-1, 211, 4.43)
6. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-2, 214, 4.67)
7. OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA (6-5, 255, 4.66)
8. QB Blake Bortles, Central Florida* (6-5, 232, 4.93)

9. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State (5-11, 199, 4.52)
10. CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State (6-0, 202, 4.37)
11. OLB C.J. Mosley, Alabama (6-2, 234, 4.65)
12. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M (6-5, 231, 4.53)
13. OL Zack Martin, Notre Dame (6-4, 308, 5.22)
14. DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh (6-1, 285, 4.68)
15. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State (6-1, 237, 4.58)
16. OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 309, 4.87)

17. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M (6-0, 207, 4.68)
18. FS Calvin Pryor, Louisville (5-11, 207, 4.58)
19. DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame (6-2, 331, 5.42)
20. TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina (6-4, 250, 4.60)
21. DE Kony Ealy, Missouri (6-4, 273, 4.92)
22. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State (5-10, 189, 4.33)
23. FS Hasean Clinton-Dix, Alabama* (6-1, 208, 4.58)
24. WR Odell Beckham Jr., LSU (5-11, 198, 4.43)
25. DE/OLB Demarcus Lawrence, Boise State (6-3, 251, 4.80) A gifted pass rusher with enough athleticism to occasionally slip inside or drop back into coverage, Lawrence is eerily reminiscent of Bruce Irvin, the Seattle Seahawks "surprise" first round pick in the 2012 draft. His length and varied pass rush skills are enough to intrigue 4-3 and 3-4 teams, alike.

26. DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 299, 5.06)
27. WR Marqise Lee, Southern Cal (6-0, 192, 4.52)
28. CB Jason Verrett, TCU (5-09, 189, 4.38)
29. DE/OLB Dee Ford, Auburn (6-2, 252, 4.67)
30. QB Derek Carr, Fresno State (6-2, 214, 4.69)
31. OG Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA (6-4, 307, 5.04)
32. OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU (6-3, 243, 4.71)

33. DE Scott Crichton, Oregon State (6-3, 274, 4.84)*: Blue-collar pass rusher who combines initial burst off the snap, heavy hands and a high-revving motor to generate consistent pressure. Fits best as a 4-3 defensive end due to some lower body stiffness.

34. CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State (5-11, 194, 4.39)*: Boasts all of the athletic traits scouts are looking for including size, speed, fluidity and physicality. Struggled with consistency in 2013, perhaps in part due to the fact that he was often asked to play off, negating his athleticism and aggression.

35. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 322, 5.59)*: Scared off some with a poor showing in drills and in medical exams conducted at the combine, but boasts great length as well as agility, balance and toughness.

36. FS Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois (5-11, 193, 4.59): Starred at cornerback and safety in the MAC and proved just as athletic and instinctive while splitting time at the two positions in Senior Bowl practices. Given the NFL's increasing focus on the pass, it isn't out of the question that Ward sneaks into the first round, despite less-than-ideal size.

37. OT Morgan Moses, Virginia (6-6, 314, 5.35): Played well at right tackle early in his career but enjoyed his best season after making the switch to the left side as a senior. Helped his cause with a stellar performance in Mobile, showing balance, long arms (35 5/8) and strong hands to latch onto opponents.

38. WR Donte Moncrief, Mississippi (6-2, 221, 4.40)*: Stood out against SEC competition throughout his career and wowed at the Combine with his raw athleticism. Has the upside to warrant a first-round gamble but remains a better athlete than football player to this point and may require some patience.

39. DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-5, 304, 4.92)*: There is no questioning Tuitt's talent. He's shown a combination of size, strength and athleticism to earn comparisons to Richard Seymour from some scouts. However, there are plenty of red flags with the talented defender, not the least of which was his decision to turn pro a year early despite a disappointing junior campaign that began with him clearly playing his way into shape.

40. WR Allen Robinson, Penn State (6-2, 220, 4.60)*: Boasting size, acceleration and leaping ability, Robinson looks like a classic WCO split end -- precisely what Houston Texans' head coach Bill O'Brien used him as with the Nittany Lions.

41. OL Joel Bitonio, Nevada (6-4, 302, 4.97): Dominated at left tackle the past three seasons and made a seamless transition inside to guard at the Senior Bowl, impressing with his physicality and underrated athleticism. Seen by some as a poor man's Zack Martin and may join him as a first-round pick.

42. CB Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech (6-0, 190, 4.49): Quick, instinctive and physical, Fuller may be the best zone corner in the draft. Concerns about his relatively slim build, however, could push him outside of the draft's top 32.

43. OG Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State (6-3, 336, 5.51): Like 2013 first-round pick Chance Warmack, Jackson is a mauler in the running game with surprising balance and lateral agility to mirror in pass protection.

44. WR Davante Adams, Fresno State (6-1, 212, 4.56)*: Dominated in 2013, leading the country with a staggering 24 touchdowns receptions, Adams is a broad-shouldered, physical receiver who consistently beats corners in jump-ball situations because of his size, body control and leaping ability.

45. QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois (6-2, 226, 4.97): Proved a man among boys at the FCS level and stunned observers by performing just as well at the East-West Shrine Game, Senior Bowl and combine. Makes quick decisions and has a snappy release, making him a nice fit in a rhythm-based offense.

46. OT Ja'Wuan James, Tennessee (6-6, 311, 5.34): The best offensive lineman no one seems to be talking about; four-year starter with the length, power and agility to plug and play immediately.

47. DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 310, 5.02): A true gamble on greatness, Hageman (pronounced Hayg-men) is an athletic freak capable of dominating the line of scrimmage but too often disappears. Undeniable upside and scheme versatility could earn him a spot in the first round, but that's too rich for me.

48. WR Cody Latimer, Indiana (6-3, 215, 4.45)*: Intriguing developmental prospect whose experience on the basketball court shows with his fluidity, balance and soft hands. Plays with the grit to endear him to coaches, blocking well for teammates and showing rare strength at the combine (WR-leading 23 reps in the bench press).

49. TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame (6-6, 270, 4.84)*: A throwback tight end at his best paving lanes in the running game and serving as a security blanket rather than as a seam threat. Given a second-round grade from the Advisory Committee and may prove a better player in the pros than in college.

50. DE Marcus Smith, Louisville (6-3, 251, 4.68)* : Athletic, instinctive and aggressive edge rusher whose initially signed with the Cardinals as a quarterback. Impressive fluidity to attack off the edge or drop back and is well respected for his passion and work ethic.

51. DT Will Sutton, Arizona State (6-1, 303, 5.36)
52. OC Weston Richburg, Colorado State (6-3, 298, 5.10)
53. CB Marcus Roberson, Florida (6-0, 191, 4.61)*
54. RB Bishop Sankey, Washington (5-10, 209, 4.49)*
55. RB Tre Mason, Auburn (5-09, 207, 5-07, 207, 4.50)*
56. DE Kareem Martin, North Carolina (6-6, 272, 4.72)
57. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington (6-6, 272, 4.75)*
58. DT DaQuan Jones, Penn State (6-4, 322, 5.35)
59. SS Deone Bucannon, Washington State (6-1, 211, 4.49)
60. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech (6-5, 265, 4.74)*

61. OC Marcus Martin, Southern Cal (6-3, 320, 5.28)*
62. WR Bruce Ellington, South Carolina (5-09, 197, 4.45)*
63. ILB Carl Bradford, Arizona State (6-1, 250, 4.76)*
64. OLB Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech (6-3, 252, 4.68)
65. CB Jaylen Watkins, Florida (6-0, 194, 4.41)
66. FS Terrence Brooks, Florida State (5-11, 198, 4.42)
67. RB Carlos Hyde, Ohio State (6-0, 230, 4.66)
68. DT Ego Ferguson, LSU (6-3, 315, 6-3, 315, 4.98)*
69. DT Dominique Easley, Florida (6-2, 288, 4.93)
70. DT Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina (6-4, 297, 5.03)*

71. CB Phillip Gaines, Rice (6-0, 193, 4.38)
72. WR Jarvis Landry, LSU (5-11, 205, 4.77)
73. WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State (6-5, 240, 4.61)*
74. RB Jeremy Hill, LSU (6-1, 233, 4.66)*
75. QB Aaron Murray, Georgia (6-1, 207, 4.84)
76. OT Billy Turner, North Dakota State (6-5, 315, 5.16)
77. WR Martavis Bryant, Clemson (6-4, 211, 4.42)*
78. CB/FS Lamarcus Joyner, Florida State (5-08, 184, 4.55)
79. OG David Yankey, Stanford (6-6, 315, 5.48)*
80. OG Dakota Dozier, Furman (6-4, 313, 5.42)

81. DE/OLB Trent Murphy, Stanford (6-5, 250, 4.86)
82. OLB Trevor Reilly, Utah (6-5, 245, 4.70)
83. DE Will Clarke, West Virginia (6-6, 271, 4.77)
84. WR Paul Richardson, Colorado (6-0, 175)*
85. OT Antonio Richardson, Tennessee (6-6, 336, 5.30)*
86. ILB Chris Borland, Wisconsin (6-0, 248, 4.83)
87. QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU (6-5, 224, 5.0)
88. OLB Telvin Smith, Florida State (6-3, 218, 4.52)
89. TE C.J. Fiedorowicz, 6-6, 265, 4.76)
90. RB Ka'Deem Carey, Arizona (5-09, 207, 4.70)*

91. OT Jack Mewhort, Ohio State (6-6, 309, 5.37)
92. CB Pierre Desir, Lindenwood (6-1, 198, 4.59)
93. WR Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt (6-3, 212, 4.46)
94. CB Bashaud Breeland, Clemson (5-11, 197, 4.62)*
95. QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama (6-3, 220, 4.94)
96. RB Terrance West, Towson (5-09, 225, 4.54)*
97. QB Tom Savage, Pittsburgh (6-4, 228, 4.97)
98. RB Andre Williams, Boston College (5-11, 230, 4.56)
99. ILB Shayne Skov, Stanford (6-2, 245, 4.85)
100. CB Rashaad Reynolds, Oregon State (5-10, 189, 4.51)
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cherry picking Rang


1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-5, 266, 4.53)

No need to explain.

33. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 322, 5.59)

A steal at 33.


65. Take your pick.

QB Aaron Murray, Georgia (6-1, 207, 4.84)
QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU (6-5, 224, 5.0)
QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama (6-3, 220, 4.94)
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cherry picking Rang


1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-5, 266, 4.53)

No need to explain.

33. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 322, 5.59)

A steal at 33.


65. Take your pick.

QB Aaron Murray, Georgia (6-1, 207, 4.84)
QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU (6-5, 224, 5.0)
QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama (6-3, 220, 4.94)
A guy ranked 35 with iffy knees is a steal at 33 ? I would think a guy ranked 23 is a steal at 33 .
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A guy ranked 35 with iffy knees is a steal at 33 ? I would think a guy ranked 23 is a steal at 33 .
I don't agree with the ranking. Rang is a wang as far as I'm concerned. Just a few weeks ago he was being mentioned with Robinson, Mathews and Lewan as the top four OT's in this draft. And he wasn't always last on that list either.

He had a bad showing in his bowl game and didn't impress at the combine and it seems to have dropped him considerably on fake gm boards. Wheres the outcry that the combine doesn't matter? Only game tape is important right?

Well He is a huge tackle, opening big holes for 18 100-yard rushers over the 2012 and 2013 seasons. He was a first-team All American as a junior last season. He has elite size and was a standout player in the best conference in college football. During the regular season 2013 he had 14 knockdown blocks and allowed just 1.5 sacks in 286 pass attempts playing LT. Oh and the iffy knees you mentioned, Dr. James Andrews, on behalf of Kouandjio, sent letters to NFL teams saying his knee was fine and he has had no issues with it. Andrews is a well know and respected expert.
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I thought Kouandjio looked like an elite prospect last year, but it turns out playing next to Warmack really helped him. Without Warmack to protect him, he looked pretty average this year.

I'm not even sure he can play LT in the pros. I think he's a RT. And the knee issue is still an issue. It may be smaller for some, but for others it's a red flag and not worth the risk.
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I thought Kouandjio looked like an elite prospect last year, but it turns out playing next to Warmack really helped him. Without Warmack to protect him, he looked pretty average this year.

I'm not even sure he can play LT in the pros. I think he's a RT. And the knee issue is still an issue. It may be smaller for some, but for others it's a red flag and not worth the risk.
I had him ranked as a top 15 prospect until the Auburn and Oklahoma games, where he got completely abused by speed rushers. I also thought he was more athletic than what he showed at the Combine.

Not a good look to struggle against speed and then show questionable athleticism in workouts. I agree that he might strictly be a RT.
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I thought Kouandjio looked like an elite prospect last year, but it turns out playing next to Warmack really helped him. Without Warmack to protect him, he looked pretty average this year.

I'm not even sure he can play LT in the pros. I think he's a RT. And the knee issue is still an issue. It may be smaller for some, but for others it's a red flag and not worth the risk.
In what games did he look average? I thought maybe I missed something so I went back and watched the Auburn and LSU games. I chose them because they had very good DL's. I have to say I didn't see "average" play. Against LSU (video) he was pretty dominate. Against Auburn (video) he looked really good. In fact FF to the 10:45 mark and tell me that isn't impressive.
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I had him ranked as a top 15 prospect until the Auburn and Oklahoma games, where he got completely abused by speed rushers. I also thought he was more athletic than what he showed at the Combine.

Not a good look to struggle against speed and then show questionable athleticism in workouts. I agree that he might strictly be a RT.
I'm confused, isn't he number 71 in this video? I don't remember seeing him getting abused.
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I'm confused, isn't he number 71 in this video? I don't remember seeing him getting abused.
Maybe it was the Miss State game then. I remember it being later in the year.
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In what games did he look average? I thought maybe I missed something so I went back and watched the Auburn and LSU games. I chose them because they had very good DL's. I have to say I didn't see "average" play. Against LSU (video) he was pretty dominate. Against Auburn (video) he looked really good. In fact FF to the 10:45 mark and tell me that isn't impressive.
Yes he looks average to me. He is a very solid run blocker when he's not lunging forward reaching with his arms. He's an average pass blocker. He moves okay but not great.

I don't see a first round LT in those videos. Anthony Steen actually looks like the better player in those two games. When I watch Kouandjio I see a solid RT. I have a 2nd round grade on him.

Personally, I would pass because of the knee, but I'm also jaded because of our history with injuries on the o line. I can see why someone would want him though.
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