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Old 04-02-2014   #1321
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I am so excited about Obrien as a coach.

I share a lot of his thoughts and I think he's more in the mold of what I like as a coach.



Keyshawn Martin has not been that guy. He is afraid of contact. You cannot be afraid of getting dirty playing in the slot. He's not aggressive enough. He's not strong enough.

He's really more suited as 5th or 6th WR.

Based on those comments I guess there's a good chance we could see a slot type WR taken in the draft.

Just checked and there are some decent WR's out there on the FA market.

This draft is deep, deep, DEEP in WRs. The question is whether OB is as mistrustful of rookies as Kubiak was.

I don't think he is.

Personally, I am not really enamored of the left-overs in the FA market at WR.

Because of the depth of the WR class, there might be some really good ones that don't even get drafted. I think it was interesting that OB mentioned how many UDFAs were on the Patriots squad when he was there.
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This draft is deep, deep, DEEP in WRs. The question is whether OB is as mistrustful of rookies as Kubiak was.

I don't think he is.
I don't think Kubiak was mistrustful of rookie WRs. Martin got lots of looks early but tries to use butter as stickum. Hopkins was getting tons of looks for a rookie even with the QB position imploding.

But yes, no need to go into the remaining FAs instead of the draft to get a slot WR.
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I like what I hear from O'Brien. It's easy to get excited about the guy even though we have not seem him coach a game for the Texans.
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I don't think Kubiak was mistrustful of rookie WRs. Martin got lots of looks early but tries to use butter as stickum. Hopkins was getting tons of looks for a rookie even with the QB position imploding.

But yes, no need to go into the remaining FAs instead of the draft to get a slot WR.
Martin was one of the few guys other than a first rounder to get that sort of trust from Kubes. He generally worked his rookies in slowly and built up trust. He did that with Martin but at an accelerated rate and then Martin totally and completely let him down.
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I like what I hear from O'Brien. It's easy to get excited about the guy even though we have not seem him coach a game for the Texans.
I hear ya!

I hope he changes our flavor from vanilla to Rocky Road with big nuts!
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Martin was one of the few guys other than a first rounder to get that sort of trust from Kubes. He generally worked his rookies in slowly and built up trust. He did that with Martin but at an accelerated rate and then Martin totally and completely let him down.
Or you could say he is slow with other positions. Jacoby got his fair share of targets as a rookie but like Martin wasn't making the catches. I just don't think there is a track record on WRs but hey Kubiak's gone anyway.
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Martin was one of the few guys other than a first rounder to get that sort of trust from Kubes. He generally worked his rookies in slowly and built up trust. He did that with Martin but at an accelerated rate and then Martin totally and completely let him down.
Demeco played every snap from game 1. Connor & Reed played a lot for 2nd rounders as well.

Eric Winston started 7 games as a rookie. Owen Daniels started 12

Wali Lundy was our starting running back week 1 of 2006.

Steve Slaton started 15 games as a rookie.

Glover Quin started 12 games & Brice McCain played an awful lot as a rookie


But other than that, I think you're right.
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Certainly a different practice philosophy than the prior HC's...

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Clarifications on "college" atmosphere during #Texans offseason work: Tons of cardio. Again, O'Brien wasn't impressed with practice habits.

Reportedly, O'Brien wasn't too fond of the way the #Texans practiced in 2013. Hearing this year's early cardio has been like "college".

I'm hearing that Bill O'Brien is looking for his team to become a "family". Respect seems to be his chief principle. #Texans
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Clarifications on "college" atmosphere during #Texans offseason work: Tons of cardio. Again, O'Brien wasn't impressed with practice habits.

Reportedly, O'Brien wasn't too fond of the way the #Texans practiced in 2013. Hearing this year's early cardio has been like "college".

I'm hearing that Bill O'Brien is looking for his team to become a "family". Respect seems to be his chief principle. #Texans
That runs anathema to BOB running things like Belichik. That dude is the ultimate "all business" coach, except for Brady and maybe...well, Brady...

I'd rather see the business model than the family model again. 8 years of the family model kinda soured me on it.

On second thought, I'll take the winning model and I don't care how BOB does it, just as long as he does it!
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Something about this guy just fits......

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I sure like the sound of that. That's what this team has needed for a while I guess.
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I sure like the sound of that. That's what this team has needed for a while I guess.

I'm sure Kubiak had a strong work ethic. I'm guessing the difference now is that the players pretty much know they will lose their jobs if they're not up to speed. Under Kubaik, as has been discussed ad nauseum, no one was accountable for anything.


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All we can do is sit back and watch but if the bolded is true, which I think it will be, is a great change of direction. O'brien made his mark right off the bat by taking all the "ME" decorations down. TEAM is his focus and I applaud him for that.

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I fully expect OB to be stern and maintain high standards for his roster.........while still being fair, and not heartless in his final actions........

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I've come to believe, after reading a ton of posts on the guy, that I now haven't the slightest idea of what to think of him. He'll either impress me in the preseason or I'll posting $hit on him all year.
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