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Old 04-09-2014   #201
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Rd.1 Nix
Rd.3 DaQuan Jones
3-4. Justin Ellis who I also believe has the feet to play the 5 tech.
Rd.5 Beau Allen/Carrethers/Caraun Reid
Rd.6 Deandre Coleman, who could also play the 5 tech/Zack Kerr/Khyri Thorton
Rd.7 Mike Pennel/Robert Thomas/Bruce Gaston
Thanks steelb

If you could pop into my Big Fat Fatties thread to explain how you identify fits that would be appreciated.

Not sure why Reid is identified as someone who an be a NT but for example Kelcey Quarles can't. Not hung up on Quarles, just pulled the name out of my butt.
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I really love the O'Brien hire here, but I have to admit that I'm scared of Bradley.
I think Bradley could be a good coach, but coaching the Jags is going to be like coaching the Cardinals, or the Browns. They need a lot more than just a coach. If I were a Jags fan, I want to be hearing that they are spending a lot of energy changing the culture, not just in the locker room, but in the whole organization, from top to bottom.

That was one of the things that I liked most about when Kubiak came here. He wasn't just about change in the locker room & it appeared that McNair bought in as well.

I like Whisenhunt. I think he's a good coach & thought he did a good job in Arizona with what he had to work with. I think the Titans are a better organization than the Cardinals & it's going to be tough in the AFC South.
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Rd.1 Nix
Rd.3 DaQuan Jones
3-4. Justin Ellis who I also believe has the feet to play the 5 tech.
Rd.5 Beau Allen/Carrethers/Caraun Reid
Rd.6 Deandre Coleman, who could also play the 5 tech/Zack Kerr/Khyri Thorton
Rd.7 Mike Pennel/Robert Thomas/Bruce Gaston
That's a pretty good list there. I'm really hoping for One or two of Ellis, Allen, Carrethers and Coleman. Pennel is huge but probably to much of a project to draft. Not a fan of Ried as a NT in this defense. No McCullers?
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That's a pretty good list there. I'm really hoping for One or two of Ellis, Allen, Carrethers and Coleman. Pennel is huge but probably to much of a project to draft. Not a fan of Ried as a NT in this defense. No McCullers?
Think steelb has McCullers as DE.
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That's a pretty good list there. I'm really hoping for One or two of Ellis, Allen, Carrethers and Coleman. Pennel is huge but probably to much of a project to draft. Not a fan of Ried as a NT in this defense. No McCullers?
That's an awfully big DE.
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That's an awfully big DE.
I believe it is an issue with his height and leverage. As a NT he is vulnerable to getting blockers under his pads and getting moved.

As a DE he has the height and long arms you look for.
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I believe it is an issue with his height and leverage. As a NT he is vulnerable to getting blockers under his pads and getting moved.

As a DE he has the height and long arms you look for.
He can definitely keep OL off of the OLB's at DE and with Watt/Clowney/McCullers there should be more than a few balls batted down at the LOS.

McCullers will be a perfect 5 tech. He was miscast as a NT. IMHO
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He can definitely keep OL off of the OLB's at DE and with Watt/Clowney/McCullers there should be more than a few balls batted down at the LOS.

McCullers will be a perfect 5 tech. He was miscast as a NT. IMHO
Makes sense. Hey the bigger the better on the front three. I would prefer two guys who have the best combination of size and effort. We already have one smaller DE in Watt. Put some meat around around him and Protect him.
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Torn at the top???

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That could be literally any football team. Sounds like St. Louis though.

Definitely not the Texans. Our guys are a solid cohesive unit.
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That's an awfully big DE.
Big guys like Haloti Ngata and B.J. Raji have had success at DE in BAL and GB's 3-4 defenses, but those guys are much more explosive.


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They are also better pass rushers and football players in general. McCullers could play DE, but I wouldn't expect much production out of him. He's a big body that was immovable for most college linemen, but so was Terrance Cody. He won't go very far unless he develops some tangible football skills other than just being big. He has no burst off the snap and his playing level is inconsistent.

Unless he suddenly becomes a great athlete or improves his technique dramatically, he will just be a big guy playing football instead of a football player that happens to be big. This is what I think of every time someone mentions McCullers as a NT. He's #98....

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Makes sense.

GM's generally prefer safer picks because busts mainly reflect on them.

HC's generally prefer the most talented player because they believe they can mold anyone into a good player.

Owner's generally prefer the guy who will bring the most money into the organization because the organization is first and foremost a business.
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League will be non too happy about the leaks, but some are suggesting it was not from anyone with teams.

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Makes sense.

GM's generally prefer safer picks because busts mainly reflect on them.

HC's generally prefer the most talented player because they believe they can mold anyone into a good player.

Owner's generally prefer the guy who will bring the most money into the organization because the organization is first and foremost a business.
Also, owners can also still be fans more than true talent evaluators. That said, it will be up to one of the other two to convince the with the biggest stick errr wallet to be convinced that they way is the right one.
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Big guys like Haloti Ngata and B.J. Raji have had success at DE in BAL and GB's 3-4 defenses, but those guys are much more explosive.


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Broad: 97.0


They are also better pass rushers and football players in general. McCullers could play DE, but I wouldn't expect much production out of him. He's a big body that was immovable for most college linemen, but so was Terrance Cody. He won't go very far unless he develops some tangible football skills other than just being big. He has no burst off the snap and his playing level is inconsistent.

Unless he suddenly becomes a great athlete or improves his technique dramatically, he will just be a big guy playing football instead of a football player that happens to be big. This is what I think of every time someone mentions McCullers as a NT. He's #98....

You mean like Myers getting knocked on his butt by Jenkins?

It happens

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He's become a little more diplomatic and vague now but still thinks the Browns will draft a quarterback--however he wouldn't say if he thought it would be with the fourth overall pick.

"From talking with Ray Farmer, I'm still pretty sure we're going to take a quarterback," Gordon said in an exclusive interview with FOX Sports Ohio in Rochester, N.Y. on Saturday.
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"Johnny Manziel is a real fireball, athletic player," he said. "A really polarizing, electric figure, who will bring a lot of fans out and be an exciting player.

"Derek Carr has an amazing arm on him and he has run the West Coast offense.

"Teddy Bridgewater is an amazing athlete," he said. "I really don't think you can lose with any of those guys."
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GM's generally prefer safer picks because busts mainly reflect on them.
This might have applied a couple of months ago, but I think hardly applies now.

TB could potentially be the biggest bust of the draft if taken in the top 10.
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