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Old 04-02-2014   #41
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Tajh Boyd... who was Sammy and Deandre's QB at Clemson?

At first, Fitzpatrick. Next year, who knows. But that trio could make a decent QB look pretty good.

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That's what I've been saying. I doubt they'll go in that direction but... man... I think that would be awesome.
yep. you've been waiving the Watkins banner since we started talking draft talk. It wouldn't hurt my heart to snag him either.
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That's what I've been saying. I doubt they'll go in that direction but... man... I think that would be awesome.
If you saw my "no QB in the first" mock in the mock section (you might have) you'd probably enjoy it. I picked Watkins for the hell of it and to be honest, the idea is rubbing off on me more and more recently.
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If you saw my "no QB in the first" mock in the mock section (you might have) you'd probably enjoy it. I picked Watkins for the hell of it and to be honest, the idea is rubbing off on me more and more recently.
When I first suggested Watkins, it was just as a "wouldn't it be crazy" kinda idea. And I even posted it as a Hopkins-Watkins-Boyd reunion.

The more I think about taking Watkins, the more I like it.

I just don't think there's any way they actually do it. It's a move that smacks of the Millen-era Lions.
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I just don't think there's any way they actually do it. It's a move that smacks of the Millen-era Lions.
Not to me. They only kept doing it because they kept failing at getting even one credible WR.
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When I first suggested Watkins, it was just as a "wouldn't it be crazy" kinda idea. And I even posted it as a Hopkins-Watkins-Boyd reunion.

The more I think about taking Watkins, the more I like it.

I just don't think there's any way they actually do it. It's a move that smacks of the Millen-era Lions.
To me there are only 2 can't miss players at the top of the 1st round, Watkins and Robinson, and while Watkins wouldn't fix any of our big holes he sure would create one of the best WR corp. in the NFL, maybe the best. As long as we could fix the O-line issues, RT and LG, we could have a very potent offense even with Fitzpatrick at QB. He's definitely worth giving heavy consideration at 1.1
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To me there are only 2 can't miss players at the top of the 1st round, Watkins and Robinson, and while Watkins wouldn't fix any of our big holes he sure would create one of the best WR corp. in the NFL, maybe the best. As long as we could fix the O-line issues, RT and LG, we could have a very potent offense even with Fitzpatrick at QB. He's definitely worth giving heavy consideration at 1.1
when was the last time a WR was taken first overall??
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when was the last time a WR was taken first overall??
Keyshawn Johnson in 1996.

But, would you rather have:

1999: Tim Couch (1-1) or Torry Holt (1-6)
2003: Carson Palmer (1-1) or Andre Johnson (1-3)
2004: Eli Manning (1-1) or Larry Fitzgerald (1-3)
2007: Jamarcus Russell (1-1) or Calvin Johnson (1-2)

Now, granted, I'm cherry-picking there. QB is almost always the position drafted at 1-1 nowadays. But if the QB isn't that good, then maybe you should be more open to other positions.
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when was the last time a WR was taken first overall??
1996 - Keyshawn Johnson

Mario was the last DE taken. Prior to that were two guys who never made a pro bowl and then back to 1985 for Bruce Smith.
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Keyshawn Johnson in 1996.

But, would you rather have:

1999: Tim Couch (1-1) or Torry Holt (1-6)
2003: Carson Palmer (1-1) or Andre Johnson (1-3)
2004: Eli Manning (1-1) or Larry Fitzgerald (1-3)
2007: Jamarcus Russell (1-1) or Calvin Johnson (1-2)

Now, granted, I'm cherry-picking there. QB is almost always the position drafted at 1-1 nowadays. But if the QB isn't that good, then maybe you should be more open to other positions.
2 SBs would be nice.

but yeah i know what you mean, BPA is always going to make your team stronger, but it doesnt make the decision any easier to pass up the opportunity of getting a possible franchise QB at first overall.
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2 SBs would be nice.

but yeah i know what you mean, BPA is always going to make your team stronger, but it doesnt make the decision any easier to pass up the opportunity of getting a possible franchise QB at first overall.
I left the Eli Manning/Larry Fitzgerald duo in there just to show one that would be a difficult decision. 2 SBs are nice but I don't consider Eli Manning an elite QB, just a very, very lucky QB playing on the right teams at the right times.

In most of the other years QB was taken at 1-1, there wasn't a top flight receiver or the QB taken at 1-1 was an obvious and good choice or both. Or both choices were bad.... which has happened.

For example, in 2009, Stafford was taken at 1-1 and the first WR taken was Darius Heyward-Bey at 1-7 and the next one was Michael Crabtree at 1-11. While in 2005, you had a pick of Alex Smith or Braylon Edwards. (Yikes.)

But my main point is that you don't just take a QB because most years have a QB at 1-1. You use that 1-1 pick on a guy you think is going to do the most good for your team. If that's a WR or a RB or a NT, I don't think you should let yourself be bound by history and force the drafting of someone who's going to bust like Jamarcus Russell when you could draft a Calvin Johnson or an Adrian Peterson.
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I left the Eli Manning/Larry Fitzgerald duo in there just to show one that would be a difficult decision. 2 SBs are nice but I don't consider Eli Manning an elite QB, just a very, very lucky QB playing on the right teams at the right times.

In most of the other years QB was taken at 1-1, there wasn't a top flight receiver or the QB taken at 1-1 was an obvious and good choice or both. Or both choices were bad.... which has happened.

For example, in 2009, Stafford was taken at 1-1 and the first WR taken was Darius Heyward-Bey at 1-7 and the next one was Michael Crabtree at 1-11. While in 2005, you had a pick of Alex Smith or Braylon Edwards. (Yikes.)

But my main point is that you don't just take a QB because most years have a QB at 1-1. You use that 1-1 pick on a guy you think is going to do the most good for your team. If that's a WR or a RB or a NT, I don't think you should let yourself be bound by history and force the drafting of someone who's going to bust like Jamarcus Russell when you could draft a Calvin Johnson or an Adrian Peterson.
Well put.
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And "franchise QB" is a function of the skill set a guy has perfectly matching the offensive scheme (and supporting cast) that he was drafted (or traded) into. The more weapons (and protection) a QB has in his offense, the higher the likelihood of him (and with him, the team) being successful.
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I didn't understand last yr why the texans didn't play more big 11 which is posey,hopkins,and andre. The way andre attacks routes insde and make tough catches,it automatically makes defense play nickle. This also opens the run lanes. GB plays 3wr without a wes welker type of inside wr also.
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So the team was campaigning for Posey and Kubiak was still limiting Posey? Wow! Says alot.
Are you even a little surprised? Im not at all..
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Obviously we need a QB to throw the football but is anyone else excited about these Wrs? I know OB is not the patriots and tom brady but they did some work with some nobodies
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I would hope that AJ believes in Posey.

I would also hope that AJ believes in NUK as well. I would hope that AJ believes in OD, errrrrrrr Garret Graham.

I would hope that the first TEXAN ever entered into the HOF would love all of his teammates, unfortunately including HWSRN, and Matt Schaub... He's that classy of a guy!

Andre is probably still good friends with the likes of Jacoby Jones, LeStar Jean, and many others that escape me right now.


Bottom line! Andre is such a stud and has much trust in teammates that he doesn't give a phuk!!



Second "Bottom Line":
AJ will kick ass for a few more years, no???
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Are you even a little surprised? Im not at all..
No I'm not. That WOW! was a sarcastic one and just cemented how everyone felt that Kubiak only played his favorites.
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Man, remember all of the Posey hate when he was drafted?
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Man, remember all of the Posey hate when he was drafted?
I still think Posey is capable of being a good #3 or even a #2 given the opportunity, but man, if we didn't trade down with Tampa Bay we could have had Lavonte David.
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