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Old 04-01-2014   #61
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This is a very good point. Foster gives us a very reliable back who has enough experience to help foster (d'oooooooooh!) a fledgling QB along. We'd need experience back there regardless to pick up the blitz. I wouldn't trust a rookie RB to shoulder that responsibility and protect Bortles...I mean Manziel...I mean Bridgewater...


uh... McCarron.
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uh... McCarron.
Holmes, you are the only one on that ship.
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I know foster has a lot off supporters here but when you look at his mileage, contract, injury history and current off field issues it should be considered. I believe his value will only decline from this point forward. IMO we should seeing what we can get in return for him in a trade.

There should be some very good backs available late in this draft.
You just defeated your own argument.

Why would anyone give up even a late pick if your final statement is anywhere close to true. Why would a team give up a pick then pay even vet minimum (assuming Foster'd sign for that) when as you said yourself "there should be some very good backs available late in this draft" for 5th thru 7th round rookie money?
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Default Re: Should foster be next to go?

I wouldnt call myself a Foster supporter. But I recognize the situation.

I think we need to be looking for a replacement in this upcoming draft, myself.

But it doesnt make any sense to just cut him or trade him for a low round pick.
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You just defeated your own argument.

Why would anyone give up even a late pick if your final statement is anywhere close to true. Why would a team give up a pick then pay even vet minimum (assuming Foster'd sign for that) when as you said yourself "there should be some very good backs available late in this draft" for 5th thru 7th round rookie money?
Why would anyone give up a pick for a washed up Matt Schaub when this draft has many good young QB prospects?
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Why would anyone give up a pick for a washed up Matt Schaub when this draft has many good young QB prospects?
Again - (1) coach familiarity (2) need to spend cap and (3) RBs hit the ground running, QBs do not.
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Why would anyone give up a pick for a washed up Matt Schaub when this draft has many good young QB prospects?
As far as "good young prospects" are concerned Oakland already has Matt McGloin and Terrell Prior so they must not have thought any of the current crop represented the opportunity for success that Matt Schaub does to them. Perhaps Matt Schaub represented a mentor for those two young'uns. Given that they just signed MJD, maybe the coach thinks their locker room needs "veteran presence" or something.

Hell, its the Raiders. Who knows.

But if you can only get a 6th for a former starting QB, what do you think a "troubled", injury-prone, "weirdo", Hollywood-on-the-brain, (did I cover everything?) RB will bring you?
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Again - (1) coach familiarity (2) need to spend cap and (3) RBs hit the ground running, QBs do not.
Hmmm, not as a rule but it looked like Kennum did. Bless his heart.
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Doesn't make sense... Yet. I'd like to see if he regains form or close to it this fall.
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Hmm.....I'm trying to think of the last time a big-name free-agent RB who signed the big-money contract, didn't already have his best years behind him.

It makes more sense to draft 1 or 2 of them on the cheap each year, run them til the wheels fall off in about 2 or 3 years, and then stick another one in there. Like changing tires when the tread is worn. Sounds impersonal, but to me, it's a lot more practical than having a high paid RB, past his prime, sitting hurt on the bench.
When it comes down to it, you have to have a good RB... it might seem like RBs come a dime a dozen but at the same time you see teams struggling mightily at the RB position

Foster isn't the most gifted athlete but he's smooth and better than any RB thats played for the texans
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When it comes down to it, you have to have a good RB... it might seem like RBs come a dime a dozen but at the same time you see teams struggling mightily at the RB position
How good can he be if he's sitting on the bench hurt?

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Foster isn't the most gifted athlete but he's smooth and better than any RB thats played for the texans
What does this have to do with anything? Are you saying we should keep him just because he WAS better than all the other RB's that have played for us?
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Default Re: Should foster be next to go?

If he plays like he was playing last yr no. I will say, I wouldn't pass sims or seastrunk in the 4th rd. He's still a good player who is still a 3 down back which is very rare. I would like to see his touches go down to extend his career.
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How good can he be if he's sitting on the bench hurt?



What does this have to do with anything? Are you saying we should keep him just because he WAS better than all the other RB's that have played for us?

You are thinking way too much into what i said... yeah foster is a RB he gets beat up and misses sometime but that doesn't mean you just give up on the guy

Im sure you would have just cut AP after he tore his acl
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uh... McCarron.
You're on that train? David Carr 2.0.
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You're on that train? David Carr 2.0.
How so?
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How so?
From what I've seen, he doesn't respond well to pressure.
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From what I've seen, he doesn't respond well to pressure.
Other than ultimate destination being backup QB, I'm not seeing the comparison.
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From what I've seen, he doesn't respond well to pressure.
That's all relative.... not to defend McCarron, but any QB. Peyton has issues dealing with pressure. So does Brady (remember when the Giants stomped his azz?)... it's just varying degrees of pressure.

Some QBs like Carr eventually, start out pretty good under pressure but after too long, they start hearing footsteps. That's when I think it's an issue, when he starts hearing & responding to ghosts.
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That's all relative.... not to defend McCarron, but any QB. Peyton has issues dealing with pressure. So does Brady (remember when the Giants stomped his azz?)... it's just varying degrees of pressure.

Some QBs like Carr eventually, start out pretty good under pressure but after too long, they start hearing footsteps. That's when I think it's an issue, when he starts hearing & responding to ghosts.
Peyton also beats pressure. So does Brady. That's why they're so good. A lot of people like Bridgewater because he's good against pressure.

Nobody really knew what McCarron was like under pressure because his O-Line was so good that he rarely saw any. He did in the Oklahoma game though and he laid an egg.
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