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Old 03-26-2014   #221
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Makes me wondering if he IS doing the Jedi mind tricks by talking so much about some of these guys when he was silent for so long about the team in general. Get a few teams lined up behind him in the draft scared that they are going to get their guy because OB is talking about him, and they pull the trigger on giving away the farm to get the 1.1 pick. Not saying it's happening, but if I were to have a tendency to wear tinfoil hats, I could convince myself of it.
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Just maybe he thinks he's got as good a guy on this roster as there is in this draft. And that guy is already used to NFL speed. That guy has already seen NFL coverages. And by "good" I mean NFL ready.
I thought that was a possibility until they signed Fitzpatrick. I'd have signed Brady Quin or someone like that if I thought I had the guy on my roster, if I were going to sign anyone at all.

The money spent on Fitzpatrick could have been spent on a player to help us win games instead of a benchwarmer.
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I think O'Brien is doing this the way it should be done. He's "kicking the tires" on every prospect he can to see who fits what he wants to do with this offense.

Size, scrambling ability, pure arm strength, and all those other Oooh, Aaaah things are not as high on his list as football smarts, passing accuracy, and work ethic.

Just maybe he thinks he's got as good a guy on this roster as there is in this draft. And that guy is already used to NFL speed. That guy has already seen NFL coverages. And by "good" I mean NFL ready.

Perhaps this year may just be between "Fitzy" (anyone else notice that O'Brien gave him a nickname already), Keenum, and Yates. The new boy - no matter what round he's picked - might just have to watch this season. ...unless he's a real quick study.
This is where I'm putting my bets.
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oh snap... next you'll be trying to convince me there is no Santa Claus.
Oh, there's a Santa Claus, no doubt about it.

However, I hate to break to you, but the elves are really underpaid and overworked Chinese labor.
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Oh, there's a Santa Claus, no doubt about it.

However, I hate to break to you, but the elves are really underpaid and overworked Chinese labor.

I can't heeeear you.
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So what was put on display today for Bill O'Brien and the Texans was not a preview of Johnny Manziel's football potential...

What was previewed was the media storm that will envelop your team if you tab Manziel as your quarterback. Obviously not intended to take the forefront, but every team present just got a firsthand feel for what comes with Johnny Football.

Some organizations need it. Will OB sign up for that?
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He is the next Tim Tebow. Some team should sign both of them.
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So what was put on display today for Bill O'Brien and the Texans was not a preview of Johnny Manziel's football potential...

What was previewed was the media storm that will envelop your team if you tab Manziel as your quarterback. Obviously not intended to take the forefront, but every team present just got a firsthand feel for what comes with Johnny Football.

Some organizations need it. Will OB sign up for that?
NO! OB will not want to deal with Monday Morning Manziel Madness........that lasts game-to-game throughout every week. If Manziel doesn't get totally killed by the D, surely OB will finish off the job.
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What was previewed was the media storm that will envelop your team if you tab Manziel as your quarterback. Obviously not intended to take the forefront, but every team present just got a firsthand feel for what comes with Johnny Football.
I doubt it. From what they said on the radio, ESPN did the same thing for Andrew Luck & Ryan Tannehill. So this is nothing to be scared of.

As a matter of fact, it's something this team needs. Someone who can deliver when the lights are on. Sure, we do fine in our 12 noon (central time) time slot, & we're not bad on Thursday night... but prime time on Sunday, or Monday... yeah we can use a QB who thinks he belongs on that stage.

We're going to have to grow up sooner or later & for an NFL franchise, that means extra media attention, being a media darling.
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man so many decesions OB and RIck must make I wonder what they will do go with one of the 3 QB's or get the Star Pass rusher or trade out of #1


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Manziel delivers with the lights on him. He might not have the best mechanics of anyone in this draft, but I will bet that he's the most competitive of all of them. Some guys just thrive under pressure.

This team lacks that culture. That ability to thrive under pressure. It wasn't here with Gary.
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Manziel delivers with the lights on him. He might not have the best mechanics of anyone in this draft, but I will bet that he's the most competitive of all of them. Some guys just thrive under pressure.

This team lacks that culture. That ability to thrive under pressure. It wasn't here with Gary.
People said that about Vince Young. How'd that work out?
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People said that about Vince Young. How'd that work out?
You mean the Texans should sign VY to mentor Johnny Fooseball?? What an idea!!
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I predict, Clowney with 1.1, trade back into the 1st round and Mccarron is the guy.
No need to trade back into the first for McCarron. He'll be there at the top of the 2nd and probably the 3rd. He lasted till the 4th in the mock so waiting would be much more prudent.

1.1 Clowney

Then set up a contingent trade with Atlanta. If Bridgewater, Bortles or Manziel are there, trade him for their entire 2014 draft and their 1st in 2015.

6 1600
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Then surprise them all by taking Matthews with 1-6 and taking McCarron in the fourth.

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No need to trade back into the first for McCarron. He'll be there at the top of the 2nd and probably the 3rd. He lasted till the 4th in the mock so waiting would be much more prudent.

1.1 Clowney

Then set up a contingent trade with Atlanta. If Bridgewater, Bortles or Manziel are there, trade him for their entire 2014 draft and their 1st in 2015.

6 1600
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68 250
103 88
139 36.5
147 32.6
182 18.6
220 3.4
253
255
total 2559 plus 420 for 2015 1st.

Then surprise them all by taking Matthews with 1-6 and taking McCarron in the fourth.
Really? Don't bogart, ppp. Capice?
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People said that about Vince Young. How'd that work out?
If Manziel has a better work ethic than Vince Young, it shouldn't matter.
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Really? Don't bogart, ppp. Capice?
Uh! No? I've heard the reference, but the definition eludes me. Something to do with Humphrey Bogart I suppose. Capice - understand in Italian I think.

But the trade is right in line with others. ~3000 for ~3000 in trade point value and Atlanta is apparently drooling over Clowney.
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No need to trade back into the first for McCarron. He'll be there at the top of the 2nd and probably the 3rd. He lasted till the 4th in the mock so waiting would be much more prudent.

1.1 Clowney

Then set up a contingent trade with Atlanta. If Bridgewater, Bortles or Manziel are there, trade him for their entire 2014 draft and their 1st in 2015.

6 1600
37 530
68 250
103 88
139 36.5 Oops. Can't trade this one. Trade the 2015 3rd instead 62.
147 32.6
182 18.6
220 3.4
253 or these
255 or these
total 2559 plus 420 for 2015 1st.

Then surprise them all by taking Matthews with 1-6 and taking McCarron in the fourth.

New Texans draft:
1-6
2-33
2-37
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4-103
4-135
5-141
5-147
6-177
6-181
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Atlanta 2015 3rd
Forget about the "Draft Value Chart" because it means nothing this year.
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Forget about the "Draft Value Chart" because it means nothing this year.
It always means nothing until a trade goes down. I agree it is useless in determining the value of career play, but it does a fair job of estimating Potential value used in trades.

But say it's gone. How much would you expect in a trade for this years number one?
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I had no idea that draft day trades and all were what OB is looking for in a QB. For some strange reason I thought it was a Tom Brady clone. Gotta love the off season!!! NOT!!!!!!
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