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Old 03-26-2014   #1041
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If you put it that way, I guess I have to root for Bortles now.
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5 for 5; Blake Bortles going 1.1 in 5 different mocks:

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If you draft Clowney and he's a bust at least you went big . If you draft Bortles on the other hand , people are gonna say " who didn't see that coming " .
You don't think they will say that about Clowney if he is a bust? I can guarantee you that a lot of people will. A lot of people are already predicting that.

And who cares what people say any way? You draft the guy that you feel has the highest % chance at being an impact player on your team. QB is the most important position right now though.
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5 for 5; Blake Bortles going 1.1 in 5 different mocks:

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You don't think they will say that about Clowney if he is a bust? I can guarantee you that a lot of people will. A lot of people are already predicting that.

And who cares what people say any way? You draft the guy that you feel has the highest % chance at being an impact player on your team. QB is the most important position right now though.
4.53 at 270 lbs is not a reach because his ceiling is so high . Clowney ranked 2nd among LBs in his cimbine performance . He was easily the highest DL so no he's not a reach because he has elite talent .
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If you draft Clowney and he's a bust at least you went big . If you draft Bortles on the other hand , people are gonna say " who didn't see that coming " .
Meh, I can see it with most of the top picks.

Clowney - Who didn't see his motor wasn't running anymore?

Bortles - Who didn't see he had so little experience?

Manziel - Who didn't see he ran a gimmicky offense?

Bridgewater - Who didn't see he rarely faced great competition?
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4.53 at 270 lbs is not a reach because his ceiling is so high .
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He was easily the highest DL so no he's not a reach because he has elite talent .
I broke each of these sentences up so we can read them independently.

Statements like this bother me. Not one mention of on field performance.

I like Clowney (he's #1 on my draft board as a 43 DE, not so much as a 34 OLB), but projecting based entirely on athleticism is a recipe for failure.
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4.53 at 270 lbs is not a reach because his ceiling is so high . Clowney ranked 2nd among LBs in his cimbine performance . He was easily the highest DL so no he's not a reach because he has elite talent .
he kinda reminds me of super prospect and superfreak athlete, Aundray Bruce. Since you are an old timer...I don't have to tell you what a disaster that was.
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I broke each of these sentences up so we can read them independently.

Statements like this bother me. Not one mention of on field performance.

I like Clowney (he's #1 on my draft board as a 43 DE, not so much as a 34 OLB), but projecting based entirely on athleticism is a recipe for failure.
Would you draft a guy with 19 sacks this year who ran a 5.0 forty #1 overall ?
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Would you draft a guy with 19 sacks this year who ran a 5.0 forty #1 overall ?
I can't make a decision on such a small sample of information. I don't really care what his 40 is as long as it confirms his speed in pads, and sacks aren't the only measure of football ability. I'd have to see his tape.
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I can't make a decision on such a small sample of information. I don't really care what his 40 is as long as it confirms his speed in pads, and sacks aren't the only measure of football ability. I'd have to see his tape.
He has a 30 inch vertical , 21 reps and a 9.5 Broad jump to go along with that 19 sacks and 5 flat forty .
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He has a 30 inch vertical , 21 reps and a 9.5 Broad jump to go along with that 19 sacks and 5 flat forty .
Hard to make a decision just based on numbers.

For instance, Mercilus had the measurables and production, but when I put on that college film I didn't see a player that I'd have drafted.
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Hard to make a decision just based on numbers.

For instance, Mercilus had the measurables and production, but when I put on that college film I didn't see a player that I'd have drafted.
He had one good year , his last . He's not as big or as fast as Clowney .
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4.53 at 270 lbs is not a reach because his ceiling is so high . Clowney ranked 2nd among LBs in his cimbine performance . He was easily the highest DL so no he's not a reach because he has elite talent .
Which translated to not much on the field. And the explanation for that is?
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Which translated to not much on the field. And the explanation for that is?
That's not the point . The point is are you going to settle for a lesser prospect or are you betting on the best prospect . There is no guarantee with any of them so go big or go home at #1 .

The safest pick , IMO , is Matthews because he can play somewhere on the OL .
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That's not the point , the point is are you going to settle for a lesser prospect or are you betting on the best prospect . There is no guarantee with any of them so go big or go home at #1 .
Is Clowney, Aundray Bruce?
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That's not the point , the point is are you going to settle for a lesser prospect or are you betting on the best prospect . There is no guarantee with any of them so go big or go home at #1 .
How the flying squirrel is actual play not part of how good a prospect someone is?
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Is Clowney, Aundray Bruce?
Is Bortles David Carr ?
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How the flying squirrel is actual play not part of how good a prospect someone is?
A guy that throw 98 MPH but is 3-11 for the season is a better prospect than a guy who throws 83 but is 11-3 . Why ... you can't teach 98 MPH .
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A guy that throw 98 MPH but is 3-11 for the season is a better prospect than a guy who throws 83 but is 11-3 . Why ... you can't teach 98 MPH .
That's not true at all. Ball placement, for one thing, is a huge deal for pitchers.
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