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Old 03-25-2014   #41
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From what I understand, Matt Schaub's cap number for 2014 is now around $7.5M. He re-did his deal with the #Raiders after the trade.
Not surprising. After the season he had here in Houston, and the way he was treated, I doubt he had any intention of playing for the Texans this year.
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Koch&Kalu.. <-- they discuss a lot of stuff on this podcast with a former scout. He's got a lot to say about Schaub starting aroun 18:20
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Meh, I don't hate Schaub as many do. That said, it was certainly time for him to move on. I wish him good luck. A change of scenery may serve him well.

At the same time I'm more concerned about our Texans. Schaub was done here. He was like a golfer that gets the "yips"..

And the fact that the Texans got a draft choice, albeit a late draft choice for him is awesome considering they would cut him in June and get NADA for him!
I'm with you here Bill. He put in some very good years in Houston - and time will tell whether he has anything left in the tank.

It will be interesting to see how he does in Oakland, after an offseason of learning a new system. Obviously the coaching staff over there have plans/a belief in him getting the job done.

It was just one of those times where someone's natural stay had come to an end. It is sort of like a Peyton in Indy ending for me. The team did not view the player as the future, and the player wanted another chance to prove their worth in the league. It should be an amicable ending to his tenure in Houston and a fresh start for both parties.
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Hey, I was trying to be positive. Schaub can lead a team to FG range. But he can't kick it in for ya.
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Koch&Kalu.. <-- they discuss a lot of stuff on this podcast with a former scout. He's got a lot to say about Schaub starting aroun 18:20
Thanks for the share TK. Was a good interview and debate. It's funny that this will be the soap opera story of the season. All of the haters sitting on the edge of their seat chanting "pick 6", pick 6, pick 6" every time Schaub plays, and all of the supporters fingers crossed, biting their nails chanting "no pick 6, no pick 6, no pick 6". Good Luck Matt!

Edit: You gotta wonder what it feels like to be TP. I mean how does one feel about being demoted to 3rd string, and most likely cut for a 32 year old, washed up, record pick 6 throwing, concrete shoes wearing, mediocre QB like Matt Schaub?
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I wish him all the best, except when he plays the Texans.
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Just an observation. The Raiders are not only the place where players seem to go to "die," but also where there appears to be a Bermuda Triangle where Lisfranc injuries come to roost. Schaub will be in good company. Darren McFadden suffered a Lisfranc in 2011 and went from a 5.5 ypc to 2 years of 3.3 ypc. Maurice Jones-Drew has now joined the Raiders. He suffered a Lisfranc fracture in 2012. In contrast to his previous career that had been relatively injury-free, from the beginning of the 2013 season and continuing throughout, he sustained every compensatory injury under the sun.......knee sprain, ankle sprain, hamstring sprain and another foot strain. He went from an average of ~4.8 ypc over his career to 3.4 ypc. Next, their WR Jacoby Ford sustained a Lisfranc fracture September 2012 that had him miss the entire season. When he came back in 2013, he said he was 100% healthy. His ypc average went from ~17 in years prior to injury to 7 in 2013. Last but not least, Shawntae Spencer, who was supposed to be Raiders' starting CB in 2013, sustained a Lisfranc fracture September 2013, went on to miss the entire season. What is to be expected from him this year can pretty well be predicted.

So goes the Lisfranc Raiders story........or is it a magnetic curse?
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What if (crackhead theory) Schaub leads Oakland to a championship?

I think I might cry if that happens.

I would not cry. It would simply cement my dislike for Gary Kubiak as a coach and prove my theory that he's a fraud.


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Just an observation. The Raiders are not only the place where players seem to go to "die," but also where there appears to be a Bermuda Triangle where Lisfranc injuries come to roost. Schaub will be in good company. Darren McFadden suffered a Lisfranc in 2011 and went from a 5.5 ypc to 2 years of 3.3 ypc. Maurice Jones-Drew has now joined the Raiders. He suffered a Lisfranc fracture in 2012. In contrast to his previous career that had been relatively injury-free, from the beginning of the 2013 season and continuing throughout, he sustained every compensatory injury under the sun.......knee sprain, ankle sprain, hamstring sprain and another foot strain. He went from an average of ~4.8 ypc over his career to 3.4 ypc. Next, their WR Jacoby Ford sustained a Lisfranc fracture September 2012 that had him miss the entire season. When he came back in 2013, he said he was 100% healthy. His ypc average went from ~17 in years prior to injury to 7 in 2013. Last but not least, Shawntae Spencer, who was supposed to be Raiders' starting CB in 2013, sustained a Lisfranc fracture September 2013, went on to miss the entire season. What is to be expected from him this year can pretty well be predicted.

So goes the Lisfranc Raiders story........or is it a magnetic curse?
Annefranc's sister hates Oakland?
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So goes the Lisfranc Raiders story........or is it a magnetic curse?
Lisfranc Island... where football careers go to slowly wither away.
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With the contract restructure it makes the deal appear better. If Oakland views as a stop gap starter who could regain form it's a win for both teams really.

Another case of hope he does well, just wasn't going to happen in Houston.
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Edit: You gotta wonder what it feels like to be TP. I mean how does one feel about being demoted to 3rd string, and most likely cut for a 32 year old, washed up, record pick 6 throwing, concrete shoes wearing, mediocre QB like Matt Schaub?
Who besides the Raiders ever thought Pryor could play QB in the NFL? Now, they know better. Pryor was Al Davis' last draft pick. That should tell you everything you need to know about Pryor.
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Thanks for the share TK. Was a good interview and debate. It's funny that this will be the soap opera story of the season. All of the haters sitting on the edge of their seat chanting "pick 6", pick 6, pick 6" every time Schaub plays, and all of the supporters fingers crossed, biting their nails chanting "no pick 6, no pick 6, no pick 6". Good Luck Matt!

Edit: You gotta wonder what it feels like to be TP. I mean how does one feel about being demoted to 3rd string, and most likely cut for a 32 year old, washed up, record pick 6 throwing, concrete shoes wearing, mediocre QB like Matt Schaub?
Not sure why TP is demanding a trade or release. At this point he's not going to get a much better chance at seeing playing time elsewhere. Schaub is penciled in as starter, but if he struggles or gets injured he could be next in line if he sat down and worked at learning to be an NFL QB.

The only other option is head back to the state of Ohio in Cleveland to battle for a spot.
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Not sure why TP is demanding a trade or release. At this point he's not going to get a much better chance at seeing playing time elsewhere. Schaub is penciled in as starter, but if he struggles or gets injured he could be next in line if he sat down and worked at learning to be an NFL QB.

The only other option is head back to the state of Ohio in Cleveland to battle for a spot.
I had heard reports that TP had demanded his trade/release before the trade was even publicly being discussed. So it sounds like he's unhappy with something he's heard from the coaches about the direction they want to go or they're asking him to do something he doesn't want to do.
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Who besides the Raiders ever thought Pryor could play QB in the NFL? Now, they know better. Pryor was Al Davis' last draft pick. That should tell you everything you need to know about Pryor.
I agree with this, but I would imagine that TP himself thinks he can play, which is why he is so upset they went out and got MS. Al Davis lost his mind over the last decade, but prior to that, he was pretty good at spotting talent. Obviously he got this one wrong.

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Not sure why TP is demanding a trade or release. At this point he's not going to get a much better chance at seeing playing time elsewhere. Schaub is penciled in as starter, but if he struggles or gets injured he could be next in line if he sat down and worked at learning to be an NFL QB.

The only other option is head back to the state of Ohio in Cleveland to battle for a spot.
It has to be a pride thing, because you are right. Any clear thinking human should see opportunity to gain valuable mentoring from someone who has played at a high level in the NFL, but apparently Pryor thinks he is better than Schaub and should be starting.

I have not heard any teams clamoring to acquire TP, but who knows, someone might have some interest in such a project.

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Al Davis lost his mind over the last decade, but prior to that, he was pretty good at spotting talent. Obviously he got this one wrong.
Al Davis was the driving force behind the AFL, whose merger with the NFL was the impetus for pro football overtaking baseball and becoming the nation's new pastime. What we watch on Sundays now is AFL football, which was Al Davis' vision. If there was a Mt Rushmore of pro football, Al Davis should be on it. But he had no business running the Raiders at the end. And everyone except Davis knew it.
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Al Davis was the driving force behind the AFL, whose merger with the NFL was the impetus for pro football overtaking baseball and becoming the nation's new pastime. What we watch on Sundays now is AFL football, which was Al Davis' vision. If there was a Mt Rushmore of pro football, Al Davis should be on it. But he had no business running the Raiders at the end. And everyone except Davis knew it.


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Al Davis was the driving force behind the AFL, whose merger with the NFL was the impetus for pro football overtaking baseball and becoming the nation's new pastime. What we watch on Sundays now is AFL football, which was Al Davis' vision. If there was a Mt Rushmore of pro football, Al Davis should be on it. But he had no business running the Raiders at the end. And everyone except Davis knew it.
Sounds similar to that other NFL team in Texas.....
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Al Davis was the driving force behind the AFL, whose merger with the NFL was the impetus for pro football overtaking baseball and becoming the nation's new pastime. What we watch on Sundays now is AFL football, which was Al Davis' vision. If there was a Mt Rushmore of pro football, Al Davis should be on it. But he had no business running the Raiders at the end. And everyone except Davis knew it.
I agree completely. MSR

The AFL was good for pro football. They pushed the envelop to make games exciting and challenged the old guard of the NFL to wake up. Today's NFL would not be what it is without the passing game, and the AFL's influence is a big part of that on-going trend.
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TP has flashed more potential than MS has last year.. someone will give him a chance..
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