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Old 03-23-2014   #21
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What if (crackhead theory) Schaub leads Oakland to a championship?
I think I might cry if that happens.
I would find the nearest kitten and punch it.
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om man get rdy for PICK SIXES and a bunch of throw aways OAK town LOL

if matt thought the AFCS was a hard Div now he has to face

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under fire GM Reggie McKenzie and HC Dennis Allen have hitched their wagon on Matt Schaub.

good luck with that.
Hitched?

Let's say Teddy Bridgewater falls to them & they take him. After a few weeks of training camp, Dennis Allen believes TeddyB gives them the best opportunity to win, & though they like Matt Schaub, they see the results of his Lisfranc leaves him competent in spurts & would be better spent as a back-up.

They can cut him & only be on the hook for his roster bonus (I believe it is due before training camp)... & be free & clear of him. They can cut him after the season & not affect their future cap in anyway.

If he plays he gets paid. If he don't.. he don't. They couldn't be in a better position with Schaub.
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They can cut him & only be on the hook for his roster bonus (I believe it is due before training camp)... & be free & clear of him.
I don't think he gets the bonus until he plays in a game. Actually, I think it's per game bonus. If Schuab were cut prior to the season, the Raiders would "only" be out a 6th round pick. And the eggs that would be on their face.
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I don't think he gets the bonus until he plays in a game. Actually, I think it's per game bonus. If Schuab were cut prior to the season, the Raiders would "only" be out a 6th round pick. And the eggs that would be on their face.
Which they've developed an immunity to at this point.
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Hitched?

Let's say Teddy Bridgewater falls to them & they take him. After a few weeks of training camp, Dennis Allen believes TeddyB gives them the best opportunity to win, & though they like Matt Schaub, they see the results of his Lisfranc leaves him competent in spurts & would be better spent as a back-up.

They can cut him & only be on the hook for his roster bonus (I believe it is due before training camp)... & be free & clear of him. They can cut him after the season & not affect their future cap in anyway.

If he plays he gets paid. If he don't.. he don't. They couldn't be in a better position with Schaub.
Yea I think they made a great move for a change and not because I am a Schaub fan, but for the exact reason you stated. If he delivers they are geniuses, if he fails it cost them next to nothing, and everyone will say "It's The Raiders what did you expect?"

If McFadden can stay healthy, and they do get Evans, and have a decent draft. Schaub could do very well for them. Allot better than they are used to that's for sure, and from what I have been reading, Raiders fans actually seem like they want the guy and look at him as an improvement. Silly Raiders fans.
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Poor Schaub. What did he ever do to deserve being shipped off to the black hole?
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If McFadden can stay healthy, and they do get Evans, and have a decent draft. Schaub could do very well for them. Allot better than they are used to that's for sure, and from what I have been reading, Raiders fans actually seem like they want the guy and look at him as an improvement. Silly Raiders fans.
It's a QB driven league. If Greg Olsen does everything he can to get Schaub into his zone & keep him there, I think Schaub is going to surprise a lot of people. If they try to build their offensive attack around McFadden, they're just asking for trouble.
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Meh, I don't hate Schaub as many do. That said, it was certainly time for him to move on. I wish him good luck. A change of scenery may serve him well.

At the same time I'm more concerned about our Texans. Schaub was done here. He was like a golfer that gets the "yips"..

And the fact that the Texans got a draft choice, albeit a late draft choice for him is awesome considering they would cut him in June and get NADA for him!
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Not a surprise. What I didn't know was the connection between Raider HC Dennis Allen and Schaub.


Allen knew Schaub from his days in Atlanta. He also had to be impressed with Schaub rallying the Texans to two 4th quarter FGs against the Raiders last year, only to lose by 5. That was one of the two games where Matt didn't throw an INT (the other vs the Rams). Of course, he only played a half in those contests.
Kinda random, but I got a nice giggle out of the bolded. Rallying to two FGs to lose by 5. I don't know why I got a kick out of it. Maybe it's typical to what last season was, a huge bucket o fail
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Truthfully, when one considers that in his time here Schaub's inability to read defenses was due in large part to Kubiak not allowing him to audible from the line I think he MIGHT do a better job in Oakland. I wish the muff-hugga luck.
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Oakland Raiders coach Dennis Allen told reporters Friday he saw Matt Schaub as a long-term solution who could lead the team at quarterback for several years.

That faith in Schaub's ability won't necessarily preclude the Raiders from investing in a QB in the upcoming NFL Draft, however.

"I don't think you ever take anything off the table," Allen told NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport and a small group of reporters at the NFL Annual Meeting in Orlando, Fla. on Sunday. "You have your checklist. We've got these holes we need to fill. That's one that we feel like we've been able to check off the list. We filled that."

Most interesting, I thought, was how they were talking on the video that the offseason moves made by the Raiders gives you the feel that they are in "win now" mode.

They were last place in a division where the other three teams had winning records, they all made the play-offs. Surely they were not one player away from a winning season, much less a championship. They've got "holes" all over their roster, but they're making a "substantial" push to "win now"

I think they're treading water, but I'll keep an ear to the ground to see if anyone else thinks they may be on the move.
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Kinda random, but I got a nice giggle out of the bolded. Rallying to two FGs to lose by 5. I don't know why I got a kick out of it. Maybe it's typical to what last season was, a huge bucket o fail
Hey, I was trying to be positive. Schaub can lead a team to FG range. But he can't kick it in for ya.
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Kinda curious. I thought one of the apealing things about him was that he was going to take up a big chunk of their salary cap. This move kinda kills that line of thinking. I'd like to see more details... I didn't think Schaub would want to restructure.

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Truthfully, when one considers that in his time here Schaub's inability to read defenses was due in large part to Kubiak not allowing him to audible from the line I think he MIGHT do a better job in Oakland. I wish the muff-hugga luck.
I never put too much into the not being able to audible yak. The offense is designed the way it's designed and the traditional audible system was not necessary.

When you watch the videos here, you can see how a single play can unfold several different ways depending on what the QB sees before & after the snap. In one of them, he mentions how the routes on one side of the field are designed to attack a zone defense & the other side, the routes are designed to attack man defense. So if the QB sees zone, his read starts on that side of the field & works back the other way. If he reads man, it starts on the other side & works back from there.

Then both sides have adjustments for the blitz.

I understand wanting our QB to have the freedom (or the snap) to change a play to adjust for a mismatch in our favor, but that's totally different than being able to read a defense... which I thought Matt was pretty good at.
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I've got a Raiders forum bookmarked. I don't ever post there, don't have an account, just visit from time to time to get opinions on things that are not Houston-Centric. I've also got boards from most other teams bookmarked for the same thing.

This Raiders board is one of the ones I rarely visit, just not that interested in the constant moaning & groaning. But I decided to take a look after the recent interaction between our two teams.

So..... here's a link, you may be interested in.
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I’m talking about guys like Drew Brees, who I was with, I’m talking about guys like Peyton Manning, I’m talking about guys like Tom Brady, guys that their work ethic is unmatched; they’re the first ones in the building, they’re the last one to leave.

They have the ability to process information quickly and they can throw the ball with timing and accuracy. And those are the things you have to be able to do to play the quarterback position.
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I wish Schaub the best. I honestly hope the Raiders win the division. Most likely not going to happen, but I would love the turmoil it would cause if it happened.
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