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Old 03-22-2014   #201
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I really think that's debatable. Bortles may be the most conventional of the group but I think Manziel has the highest upside and the highest bust potential. He's a game changer in ways that Bortles and Bridgewater cant compare .... Total boom or bust pick. Fran Tarkington or .... Tim Tebow.
I was going with Bortles because of his size. He's tall and built like Ben Rathzesburgers. I wouldn't argue with Manziel though. At least Keenum would have someone to feel tall around. LOL
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Speaking of T.J., I wonder if O'Brien will actually hold onto him thru camp and give him a real shot to beat out the other three guys (I figure we'll draft a QB somewhere in this draft) or is he being currently shopped around.
He needs to process information quickly and he needs to be accurate. Tough to know on the first point because Gary removed so much decision making from his QBs. Haven't heard much about TJ this offseason -- could see Kubiak or Baby Shanny wanting him to help install their schemes. Maybe low level player exchange? Dunno.
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"We got into some of the X's and O's a little bit, just talking about the basics of the system and what they ask of their quarterback and all that stuff," Fitzpatrick said in a 1-on-1 interview on Friday. "For me, it was a very exciting thing to see the demands that they put on a quarterback and all the different ways that they attack defenses and their scheme and what they're trying to do."


"I walked away so impressed by his knowledge and passion of the game," Fitzpatrick said. "That's the thing that got me most excited."

"If there's one thing that I'm good at, it's picking up a new system," Fitzpatrick said. "But I'm looking forward to that: the challenge of learning it."

"I'm really excited about fully jumping into this stuff and really learning it together as an offensive unit and going from there," Fitzpatrick said. "I really enjoy the x's and o's part of the game, and all the preparation that goes into a game."
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What do Schaub and Fitzpatrick mean for Bortles, Manziel, and Bridgewater?
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I thought it would be interesting to review the last 20 years of NFL history and identify situations where a team added a veteran quarterback and then still selected a passer in the first round of the draft. There weren’t quite as many examples as I originally expected, although part of the explanation is that there simply aren’t that many quarterbacks drafted in the first round, period.

...But let’s look at some of the examples more similar to Schaub-to-Oakland or Fitzpatrick-to-Houston:
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Well, one good thing comes from this signing...

At least Ryan Fitzpartick is no Matt Schaub....








wait...........................what?
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I believe Fitzpatrick is going to be designated as a solid backup quarterback for the Texans. I think the Texans will either go for Blake Bortles in the draft, or perhaps O'Brian will attempt a deal with the Patriots in getting Mallet on board with the team. I can see Mallet as the starter and "Fitzperfec" as his backup.

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Agreed. He's the one with the most obvious "franchise" potential. Most definitely not a sure thing & one heck of a gamble...





I mean next to McCarron.

TK, I think you've posted your opinion of McCarton just about the correct amount.
If he busts, your posts will fade into the internet ether and be forgotten, but if he turns out good, you've got quite a few "I told you so" posts to point to. That's basically what you're looking for, right?

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TK, I think you've posted your opinion of McCarton just about the correct amount.
If he busts, your posts will fade into the internet ether and be forgotten, but if he turns out good, you've got quite a few "I told you so" posts to point to. That's basically what you're looking for, right?

Well.... being that I've rarely came back with an "I told you so" I don't think that's the point.
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Well.... being that I've rarely came back with an "I told you so" I don't think that's the point.
I told him so but he wouldn't listen.

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At least Ryan Fitzpartick is no Matt Schaub....



wait...........................what?
No.. Fitzpatrick is not even a Chinese knock off of Matt Schaub. No question in my mind that the Texans got better when Matt Schaub was traded and Ryan Fitzpatrick was signed. I mean who in their right mind couldn't see that?

The O'Brien/Fitzpatrick running of the bulls is about to run roughshod over the rest of the league!
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No.. Fitzpatrick is not even a Chinese knock off of Matt Schaub. No question in my mind that the Texans got better when Matt Schaub was traded and Ryan Fitzpatrick was signed. I mean who in their right mind couldn't see that?

The O'Brien/Fitzpatrick running of the bulls is about to run roughshod over the rest of the league!
I think Schaub when healthy is clearly the better QB .... thing is , he hasn't been healthy for quite a while & his injuries get worse with use , not better. He was far from their only problem last season , they have a lot of work to do in rebuilding this roster. They do have a good foundation to build from tho , something other teams with similar records don't have as far as star power goes.


Fitzpatrick is nothing more than a caretaker of the position until the new regime's QB , who they will draft in rounds 1-3 is ready to take over the reins.



Did they get better ? Probably not .... but they didn't get any worse and shed themselves of the contract , saved $3.9m and change in the process.


I wish Schaub the best & hope he has another probowl season , don't even care if he beats the Texans as their record this coming season is of little consequence. Get your rookie head coach & rookie QB some on the job training and we'll see you in the 2015 playoffs.
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I wish Schaub the best & hope he has another probowl season , don't even care if he beats the Texans as their record this coming season is of little consequence. Get your rookie head coach & rookie QB some on the job training and we'll see you in the 2015 playoffs.
So you think 2011 and 2012 were the fluke years and that we were closer to 2013 the whole time?

Oh, ok.
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So you think 2011 and 2012 were the fluke years and that we were closer to 2013 the whole time?

Oh, ok.
Not at all , I think Schaub was pretty damn good in those seasons & that the injuries added up and took their toll on his game , it was evident even late in the season when they struggled down the stretch after starting 11-1.

Schaub was never very physically gifted but had just enough ability to make just enough plays .... the injuries took just enough physical ability away that what were positive plays are now negative or net zero.

A healthy Schaub was an above average QB , Schaub after the injuries isn't.

Hope that makes sense ....
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Not at all , I think Schaub was pretty damn good in those seasons & that the injuries added up and took their toll on his game , it was evident even late in the season when they struggled down the stretch after starting 11-1.
I understand the logic & it makes sense... except the defense struggled down this same stretch. I don't see how Schaub's reluctance to plant off his injured foot caused the defense be utterly useless in the red zone... either the end of 2012, or all of 2013. Nor how the residual effects of Schaub's injury stopped us from picking up 4th & 1..... yeah, the defense knew we were going to run the ball... they're supposed to. Then in the final 4 games of 2012, how does Schaub's deginerative condition cause Andre & Owen to drop balls they would normally catch, even though he was able to get the ball to their hands?


Schaub's level of play dropped off..... I'm not denying that. But at no time in his time here was he the guy that made everyone else look better. It had always been the other way around, where they (& the system, mostly the system) made him look better. Carried a bit further, that would mean...
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That is some embarrassing stuff. I hope he can keep his mouth shut while he's on the bench.
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I just hope he keeps the beard.

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That is some embarrassing stuff. I hope he can keep his mouth shut while he's on the bench.
Hey, if he's screaming like a little bayotch because we're winning, I'll take it
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The O'Brien/Fitzpatrick running of the bulls is about to run roughshod over the rest of the league!
Wow, already hating on O'Brien before he's coached a single game here.

Why am I not surprised by this?
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I just hope he keeps the beard.

95 degree temps & 75 degree dew points soon enough will send RF scuring off to find a razor.
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