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Old 03-14-2014   #21
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It doesn't make sense.

It's not the GM's place to ask the question. It's the head coaches job to say something clever to the media, to "call him out" the head coach thinks he's faking it... he benches him, makes him inactive, release him.... pretty much end his career right there, unless he's Albert Haynesworth.
So are you saying Ahman was lying about that or that they were just a mess down on Kirby?
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Wait a minute, is he talking about Ahman Green or Ed Reed?

Both of these jokers have convinced me of the folly of chasing overpriced and over-the-hill free agents unless they are HoF QBs.
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So are you saying Ahman was lying about that or that they were just a mess down in Kirby?
I'm saying Ahman Green may have been puffing his chest a bit. There's no way they thought he was faking his injury, that was part of the culture they were here to change. If they were allowing that to happen (even if it was because they were too stup!d to know it was happening)... well, that should not have happened.
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dis is rick smith boys hes bringing in Green Greenwood REED !!! LOL \





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A mediocre player calling another mediocre player a slacker. LOL
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Ahman Green was one of the dumbest picks ups in Texans history. He was a fantastic RB that had a great career, but he was damaged goods when we got him. One of the early black eyed dumb decisions be Kubiak that he refused to accept after he made it wasting the team's potential to run the ball at the time holding onto Green for two years. Then Kubiak followed up with the great Chris Brown who wasn't half as good as Green, but just as injury prone and beaten up. It definitely contributed to a poor start for that regime and Brown ended up costing the Texans several games which kept the Texans out of the playoffs one year which was on Kubiak for thinking either one of these guys was going to give the Texans a fighting chance.
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Those are some big words coming from a big-time bust. I wish we could go back in time and draft a Super Bowl winning and MVP caliber player like Aaron Rodgers instead of Travis Johnson. Oh the blunders we've made with some of our first-round picks over the years. Hindsight is 20-20, yeah, yeah, yeah...
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Those are some big words coming from a big-time bust. I wish we could go back in time and draft a Super Bowl winning and MVP caliber player like Aaron Rodgers instead of Travis Johnson. Oh the blunders we've made with some of our first-round picks over the years. Hindsight is 20-20, yeah, yeah, yeah...
You can hardly call Travis responsible for the Texans' misevaluating him. They reached for him. They're bad. I've yet to hear anyone blaming Travis for a lack of effort. Him not living up production wise doesn't negate his having an opinion of an ex-teammate he saw as cashing a paycheck from the trainer's table.
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You can hardly call Travis responsible for the Texans' misevaluating him. They reached for him. They're bad. I've yet to hear anyone blaming Travis for a lack of effort. Him not living up production wise doesn't negate his having an opinion of an ex-teammate he saw as cashing a paycheck from the trainer's table.
Travis Johnson was the top ranked DT in 2005. Mel Kiper had him as the #8 prospect. He wasn't considered a reach or a bad pick at the time, he just didn't work out. For example Walters Football:

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Good Moves: Houston's draft is headlined by two terrific players. The Texans chose DT Travis Johnson with their first-round pick, while WR Jerome Mathis may have been the steal of the draft in the fourth round. Mathis will eventually be the number-two receiver across from Andre Johnson.

Bad Moves: All other picks were questionable. Did the Texans need to draft a backup running back in the third round? Why wasn't the offensive line addressed?
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Travis Johnson was the top ranked DT in 2005. Mel Kiper had him as the #8 prospect. He wasn't considered a reach or a bad pick at the time, he just didn't work out. For example Walters Football:



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Saying we reached on him was a poor choice of words. I personally thought at the time that he was being overvalued due to my being such a big FSU fan and believing that he was freed up by a lot of talented guys around him to make plays and look better.

But beyond that, my point was that whether he lived up to anyone's expectations or not never seemed to be blamed on Travis for a lack of effort. Which was pretty much his gripe against Ahman to begin with. That Ahman never had any intention to give a crap and was there only for a last ditch contract. There are those who say it's silly of Travis to sh*t on Ahman after Travis's lack of production, but again, I think effort and giving a crap is more the core of the issue.
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A mediocre player calling another mediocre player a slacker. LOL
Ahman was washed up when he jounced the texans but he has several very productive seasons in GB. Travis Johnson did almost nothing and no wouldn't consider him mediocre player. He was a bust.
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First off, being controversial or "keeping it real" doesn't mean you are being honest.

I find the accusation odd.

Mike Sherman was in Houston. He was well aware of Green's past conduct so for that to make sense he was not previously a skater. And Green had to not give a crap about Sherman's opinion of him because a new found slacker attitude would be apparent to Sherman. Then after having made tens of millions of dollars in Houston and Green Bay Green wanted enough to play still that he went back to Green Bay for an NFL pittance. And Green Bay with whom Sherman still undoubtedly had contacts wanted him back.

He was disappointing here. Doesn't mean I am going to believe any old theory thrown out there.
First of all, who said Johnson is "keeping it real or being controversial" by his comments? Unless you think giving your honest opinion and not offering up a bunch of coach/player speak is "keeping it real". He simply said what he feels to be true and put a name by it.. and it isn't controversial as other ex players have done the same thing in the past.

and what does Mike Sherman's days with Green have anything to do with the player that Green was in Houston? The type of player that Green was in GB, doesn't have anything to do with the older player that Green Bay parted ways with and signed with Houston.

Hungry players get full all the time. Green was at the end of his career when we signed him (see Ed Reed) and just wanted another cash grab on his way out the door. He was fat and happy by the time he got to Houston... As far as Sherman's decisions.. well maybe that's why he's been canned ever since he's left Houston.

Seriously what's more believable here. That it's just a highly unlikely coincidence that both Travis and Smith thought Green was sand bagging it when he wasn't.. or maybe Green was actually just sand bagging it. Given both two insider's opinion on the situation and what I saw from just a outsider's view.. I'm going to go with him sand bagging it as the most likely scenario to describe his tenure in Houston.

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Those are some big words coming from a big-time bust. I wish we could go back in time and draft a Super Bowl winning and MVP caliber player like Aaron Rodgers instead of Travis Johnson. Oh the blunders we've made with some of our first-round picks over the years. Hindsight is 20-20, yeah, yeah, yeah...
Being a bust doesn't have anything to do with his belief that Ahman was faking injuries or was sitting out of games. Rick Smith never played a down in the NFL and he had the same thought.. as well as other posters here at the time. The words really aren't that big, he's just the one who publicly said what everyone else was thinking and the fact that he did say it makes me thing he wasn't the only player in that locker room thinking it, he's just the one that now has a mic, was asked the question, and doesn't mind saying it.
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I just feel very frustrated that here we are as a hopeless franchise without a reliable quarterback, coming off another 2-14 season for the second time since 2005. And everybody is saying we have to draft a quarterback number one overall which is total BS!!! The Texans passed on the likes of Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers and even Joe Flacco. All of which are deemed franchise QBs who have won Super Bowls before. But yet all of a sudden Teddy Bridgewater, Blake Bortles or Johnny Manziel are supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread? Please.

Ahman Green had a fine career in Green Bay. He was too old and washed up when he signed that contract with the Texans. No different than say Eric Moulds, who was a really good wide receiver in his prime.

It just seems like the Houston Texans are a day late and a dollar short. It's not like the teams that win Super Bowls have a big advantage over us. They just get lucky and make the right personnel decisions. This team doesn't do that consistently enough because Rick Smith, I'd argue, isn't a good general manager. He's ranked 16th out of 32 according to some recent article. He'd be lower if not for a few home runs like J.J. Watt in the first round and Arian Foster (undrafted).

Heck, where is Sam Montgomery and Trevardo Williams at? We needed that pass-rushing help off the freakin' edge. Both of these guys will be working the cash-out lane at Target soon. I don't know if Sam Montgomery is going to catch on with a third or fourth NFL team this training camp. We blew a third-round pick and a fourth-round pick on those two players. Those are the type of things Rick Smith does far too often.

Chris Jones in the sixth-round has some promise.
Oh yeah, he played well with the Patriots instead.
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i'm not a big fan of the messenger either (i'll never forgive trading away from derrick johnson), but the message SHOULD be put out there and kudos to johnson for saying it. we've all thought it or said it at some point (including the GM) - green took us for a paycheck and didnt even make an attempt to earn it. reed got us this season and i hope someone puts him on blast as well. doesnt matter to me if it's a has-been, a bust, or whoever else was in the locker room ... screwing the team and fans should get you called out for being a fraud.

and to eat my crow, that makes me at least 0-2 on supporting aged veterans.
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You can hardly call Travis responsible for the Texans' misevaluating him. They reached for him. They're bad. I've yet to hear anyone blaming Travis for a lack of effort. Him not living up production wise doesn't negate his having an opinion of an ex-teammate he saw as cashing a paycheck from the trainer's table.
This. He was never a top 15 type player. Not his fault that he was drafted as one and expected to switch positions and be a stud.
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