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Old 03-18-2014   #21
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Yeah totally. Why dont these fans use their millions to hire a driver for the day? Damn idiots!

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Why dont they choose a person to drive that wont drink at the game? Why dont they consume just a few beverages instead of getting smashed? Why dont they avoid drinking at all if they cant handle themselves properly? None of that takes money and a rich person doing something that is irresponsible doesnt excuse the avg joe from doing the same dumb thing

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They should have the book thrown at them as well. Fact is though Irsay will get off with a slap on the wrist and a "Poor poor Jim" from the talking heads.



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A loss of income from a game day wouldnt really impact an owner much I wouldnt think. Most of their increase in "net worth" typically comes from the appreciation of the ownership
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He seems like a down to Earth, cool dude to me on Twitter. My brother actually met him and had a few beers with him at the Combine (after hours). I hope he can get the help he needs.
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He seems like a down to Earth, cool dude to me on Twitter. My brother actually met him and had a few beers with him at the Combine (after hours). I hope he can get the help he needs.


Based on his twitter activity Id say many people thought he may have an alcohol issue
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A loss of income from a game day wouldnt really impact an owner much I wouldnt think. Most of their increase in "net worth" typically comes from the appreciation of the ownership
The average ticket price at Reliant is $86. Assuming each person spends a generous $40 per in addition the gross is around $9.1 mil. They players get paid $8.125 mil per game. As you say, game days are not the huge profit makers many think.

TV rights and appreciation are the money makers.
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...My brother actually met him and had a few beers with him at the Combine (after hours). I hope he can get the help he needs.
Not a good sign when alcoholics drink. Usually turns out bad.



Colts owner Jim Irsay likely won't face jail time if found guilty
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Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay... was preliminarily charged with four felony counts of possession of a controlled substance and a misdemeanor charge of operating while intoxicated.
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Irsay, driving a late-model Toyota Highlander, was arrested after he was stopped by Carmel police about 11:40 p.m. Sunday in the 13000 block of Horseferry Road...

Multiple Schedule IV prescription drugs were found in pill bottles in Irsay's vehicle, the statement said, but they were not associated with any prescription bottles found in the vehicle.

Schedule IV drugs, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration website, have low potential for abuse and low risk of dependence. Examples include Xanax, Soma, Darvon, Darvocet, Valium, Ativan, Talwin and Ambien.

The four preliminary charges of possession of a controlled substance that Irsay faces are Class D felonies, each punishable by up to three years in prison. Operating while intoxicated is a misdemeanor. The police statement did not indicate that alcohol was involved.
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Tompkins said the arrest appears to be Irsay's first driving while intoxicated offense, so if he is [charged]/convicted, Irsay can expect to lose his license for a period of 30 days to six months. If Irsay refused to submit to a blood test requested by police, Tompkins said, he could lose his license for a year.

In addition, Tompkins said, Irsay likely would be required to serve one year of probation, submit to random drug testing and attend drug or alcohol awareness classes. He also would be required to attend a victim impact panel, where he would hear graphic stories about the real-life consequences of driving while impaired.
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Twitter comments last night were infuriating me. "Oh poor Irsay needs our support" "we need to stand beside Irsay!"

You know what? **** that! This spoiled brat billionaire drove drunk with illegal medications in his car and put lots of innocent people at risk. Throw the damn book at him
Just wondering if your reaction would be the same if it had been a family member or close friend who'd made such a horrible combination of decisions.

As to his billionaire status, my guess is much like death, wealth doesn't really serve as prevention to addiction. Perhaps just the opposite.
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Just wondering if your reaction would be the same if it had been a family member or close friend who'd made such a horrible combination of decisions.

As to his billionaire status, my guess is much like death, wealth doesn't really serve as prevention to addiction. Perhaps just the opposite.
Yes I would give any family member the exact same consideration.

His billionaire spoiled brat status is what will get him off scott free. Goodell better hold the damn owners to the same exact standards as they hold the players too
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...my guess is much like death, wealth doesn't really serve as prevention to addiction.
Exactly, pocket full of money can be a hindrance to sobriety. Addiction is an equal opportunity killer -- seen many very wealthy guys die from it.
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His billionaire spoiled brat status is what will get him off scott free. Goodell better hold the damn owners to the same exact standards as they hold the players too
He's going to go through the process and we will see but if they have the evidence he is not going to get off scott free. 1st time offenders do not generally get jail time. They get probation.

As for the NFL, first time offenders don't get suspended generally so I am not sure what you are looking for in "same exact standards." Marcus Coleman for example was not suspended for his DUI in Houston. When he got another in Dallas he was suspended for four games.
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He's going to go through the process and we will see but if they have the evidence he is not going to get off scott free. 1st time offenders do not generally get jail time. They get probation.

As for the NFL, first time offenders don't get suspended generally so I am not sure what you are looking for in "same exact standards." Marcus Coleman for example was not suspended for his DUI in Houston. When he got another in Dallas he was suspended for four games.
How can you be defending him? Sickening.
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How can you be defending him? Sickening.


I dont see any defense but rather common sense being applied.
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How can you be defending him? Sickening.
What defense?
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How can you be defending him? Sickening.
How is he defending? Just telling it like it is. Irsay will have to pay his debt to society just like everyone else. Courts don't eff around with DWI, but first offense without collateral damage usually involves probation, fines, and meeting other requirements. If they have drug courts in Indy, he may be diverted into one of those and have a Judge sitting on top of his butt making sure he toes the line. We'll see about the other potential charges.

As an owner I'd expect he'll get outsized penalties from Goddell based on his history and "damage to the shield". Irsay should personally double whatever the league decides, imo.
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Wish our owner wanted to win as bad as Irsay does.

As far as the personal stuff goes, that's his personal stuff. I hope that he takes care of his problems.
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Dude is a D-bag. Cops should have put him back in the car and pointed it toward a cliff ...
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His Old Man Bob Irsay was a notorious drunk here in Baltimore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnepDGSs2Cs

In retrospect, Irsay only wanted what the other owners now enjoy.

But he was a drunk and one would think that Jim growing up around his father would steer him away from that...

Addiction is a powerful and sad...
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The problem is that such sympathy is rarely extended toward NFL players, who are either condemned for their thoughtless actions or ignored as humans entirely, analyzed solely through the lens of on-field decisions.

Peter King, one of the most prolific and respected voices in the NFL media, is a perfect example of this double standard. In his weekly Tuesday column, King devoted several paragraphs to detailing Irsay's passion for the Colts and, generally, being an all-around caring samaritan:

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This "get the help he needs" sentiment was a common one in The Star's roundup, but is rarely extended to players busted for DUIs or DWIs. Last September, Aldon Smith was arrested on DUI charges -- his second DUI charge in a year -- blowing twice the legal limit at 7 a.m. on a Thursday morning. Despite Smith announcing he would check himself into a rehab facility, King wrote nothing even approaching his compassion for Irsay, discussing the entire issue through the dehumanizing and paternalistic lens of the 49ers' personnel department:

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I would not have played Smith Sunday were it my decision. I wouldn't have abandoned him and let him go off to get in more trouble than he already was in. He would have been with the team all weekend -- at Saturday meetings, on the sideline Sunday -- but there are some things that are just more important than playing in a football game. If it sends the wrong message to sit a guy and pay him $230,000, so be it. I just don't think it's right to let him play.

One other thing: The next big issue on Roger Goodell's agenda -- and on DeMaurice Smith's as well -- has to be tougher penalties on DUIs. This isn't a partisan issue. It's potentially a life-and-death one, for the drivers and the innocents in their way.
In February of 2010, Vincent Jackson pleaded guilty to his second DUI charge since coming into the NFL. Peter King's reaction...
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It's always ironic for me when NFL fans get indignant over drunk driving and three quarters of the folks leaving the stadiums, sports bars and friends houses each week couldn't pass a breathalyzer. Instead of condemned they get a police escort from the stadiums.
Great point. I agree.

Also, it's easy to bash this guy because he is a billionaire. Yes, he has access to resources most of us do not have, but at the end of the day, the guy is human and has an addiction he's been fighting for years. Addiction is not classist; it does not just strike poor people.


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Great point. I agree.

Also, it's easy to bash this guy because he is a billionaire. Yes, he has access to resources most of us do not have, but at the end of the day, the guy is human and has an addiction he's been fighting for years. Addiction is not classist; it does not just strike poor people.


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It is easier sometimes to hate someone the more money the have but the truth is a lot of people that drive drunk could actual get a cab vs irsay having someone on staff to drive him
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