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Old 02-13-2014   #21
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I believe that when assessing the 2 QBs' performances last season, many here tend to somehow overlook the fact that in the 1st 6 games that Schaub played to so poorly in, Foster (along with Tate) afforded him a GREAT RUNNING GAME. By the time Keenum was allowed to start, not only did he play with a shoddy OL with virtually no pass protection and pathetic D to go with it.........but Foster had "left the building" for good (and Tate was tattered)........and there was absolutely NOTHING LEFT OF THE RUNNING GAME.
That's a good point. I usually don't bother to say it, but it's true.
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I can't believe they are ditching the rollover draw .
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You seem to be more concerned that we have members of the team who can't control themselves than in getting better as a team. I wonder why? Do you subscribe to the theory that every team needs bad guys to win?
You got that judgement from one post? Nope, just offering a counterpoint and why limit scope of a search to choir boys? I'm sure everyone in the world has some degree of fault.
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You got that judgement from one post? Nope, just offering a counterpoint and why limit scope of a search to choir boys? I'm sure everyone in the world has some degree of fault.
I'm more concerned with the reaction to the events. If they try to justify it or dismiss it, then I am more concerned. If they seem ashamed, then there's hope and I would be willing to take a little risk.

But an in your face goon is not someone I would want.
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I was saying this all along, Kubiak took away what Keenum did great from him, he got in the boys head and told him to stay in the pocket. That was where Kubiak went wrong with Case, i;m sorry but if you throw 3 Long TDs to AJ in one game all outside the pocket then maybe, just maybe let the boy continue to do what he has been doing.
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I was saying this all along, Kubiak took away what Keenum did great from him, he got in the boys head and told him to stay in the pocket. That was where Kubiak went wrong with Case, i;m sorry but if you throw 3 Long TDs to AJ in one game all outside the pocket then maybe, just maybe let the boy continue to do what he has been doing.

Was watching the Super Bowl at a friend's house, and Russell Wilson made some spectacular play (can't remember which). One guy who was at the party, and is really knowledgable about football overall, got frustrated and said: "See there, Case was capable of things like that before Kubiak got his hands on him."

The guy seemed like a reasonable, rational person who knows about football, and not a fan boy at all.

I don't know much about Case, but, I agreed with him.


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Was watching the Super Bowl at a friend's house, and Russell Wilson made some spectacular play (can't remember which). One guy who was at the party, and is really knowledgable about football overall, got frustrated and said: "See there, Case was capable of things like that before Kubiak got his hands on him."

The guy seemed like a reasonable, rational person who knows about football, and not a fan boy at all.

I don't know much about Case, but, I agreed with him.


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So, before Kubiak coached up Case (aka, when he was a starter at UH) he was capable of winning a SuperBowl. Start Case, Superbowl or bust.
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Exactly.

In fact, you could have posted this in the "how did last season make you feel" thread.
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So, before Kubiak coached up Case (aka, when he was a starter at UH) he was capable of winning a SuperBowl. Start Case, Superbowl or bust.

Lol. Not sure where you got that from my comments. I was merely saying that a lot of people Case had potential until Kubiak started coaching him directly. I don't know either way, but, it wouldn't shock me if O'Brien keeps him around as aback-up.


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So, before Kubiak coached up Case (aka, when he was a starter at UH) he was capable of winning a SuperBowl. Start Case, Superbowl or bust.
haha dont recall any of us saying that. But before kubiak coached him up he was throwing TDs instead of staying in the pocket taking 15 yard sacks like he did after Kubiak said in in the colts press conference game (you know the one he threw 3 TDs to AJ) that case needed to work on staying in the pocket. The kid listened to his coach.....
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I was saying this all along, Kubiak took away what Keenum did great from him, he got in the boys head and told him to stay in the pocket. That was where Kubiak went wrong with Case, i;m sorry but if you throw 3 Long TDs to AJ in one game all outside the pocket then maybe, just maybe let the boy continue to do what he has been doing.
He didn't have much choice. Opponents learned to rush wide from both sides and keep him in the pocket. Then, thanks to a leaky OL, blitzes up the middle weren't picked up and there was no place to go except down.
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He didn't have much choice. Opponents learned to rush wide from both sides and keep him in the pocket. Then, thanks to a leaky OL, blitzes up the middle weren't picked up and there was no place to go except down.
he had a choice, i can watch games now and tell u multiple times he should of left the pocket and had plenty of room to roam but he didnt. Early on he did, after kubiak stressed staying in the pocket he didnt. Pretty simple Kubiak is still trying to keep alive the old school pocket passer offense, the NFL is passed that. He was trying to turn Keenum into something he is not. Wrong thing to do !
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In the Chronicle today was an interesting tid bit coming out of Indianapolis during OB's interview. The Texans will utilize TRAP blocking as well as zone blocking and power blocking. To effectively utilize trap blocking you need athletic, quick guards with nimble feet who can still hit with power when they get to their assignment. Quess should excel at this if kept at OG, having been used on trap plays from the OT position, in college. Brandon Brooks maybe not fit well in this blocking scheme.
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In the Chronicle today was an interesting tid bit coming out of Indianapolis during OB's interview. The Texans will utilize TRAP blocking as well as zone blocking and power blocking. To effectively utilize trap blocking you need athletic, quick guards with nimble feet who can still hit with power when they get to their assignment. Quess should excel at this if kept at OG, having been used on trap plays from the OT position, in college. Brandon Brooks maybe not fit well in this blocking scheme.
He's said that he doesn't want to be tied down to any particular scheme but rather, play all of them depending on the matchups.

But... except for when Gibbs was here, Kubiak also incorporated other blocking schemes in with the zone scheme. He had incorporated trap blocking into the zone.
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I didn't see any direct reference to it in this thread, so I thought I'd put this here. If it's somewhere else (being that it was posted March 6) I apologize.

Pretty good stab at a look into the mind of Bill O'Brien, with some good videos to boot. A lot of the concepts appear to be similar to what we already do..... & he talks about playing fast, which I really like.

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I didn't see any direct reference to it in this thread, so I thought I'd put this here. If it's somewhere else (being that it was posted March 6) I apologize.

Pretty good stab at a look into the mind of Bill O'Brien, with some good videos to boot. A lot of the concepts appear to be similar to what we already do..... & he talks about playing fast, which I really like.



If a player can do one role well, he might make the team; if he can do three roles well, he is a starter.


Every time I read a description of the kind of player OB likes, I feel like James Casey will end up returning to the team.
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Every time I read a description of the kind of player OB likes, I feel like James Casey will end up returning to the team.
I really don't know why Kubiak was so restrictive on how he used Casey. I thought when he put him in at FB it was really going to help us out. If the defenses played him like a FB (putting a LB on the field) we swing him out, to the slot, or out wide, you get a big body out of the box where we can still run or pass... if they play him like a receiver (an extra DB) we run the ball with him either at FB, TE, or split wide....


Kinda makes me think Casey, Tate, & Brandon Harris were all Rick Smith picks & not Kubiak picks.
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I really don't know why Kubiak was so restrictive on how he used Casey. I thought when he put him in at FB it was really going to help us out. If the defenses played him like a FB (putting a LB on the field) we swing him out, to the slot, or out wide, you get a big body out of the box where we can still run or pass... if they play him like a receiver (an extra DB) we run the ball with him either at FB, TE, or split wide....


Kinda makes me think Casey, Tate, & Brandon Harris were all Rick Smith picks & not Kubiak picks.
It's because Kubiak was not a good head coach and he was too stressed to do things like that.

You might see more things that make sense in Baltimore offense now that his responsibilities have been narrowed.

Now he won't be as stressed having to worry about big and small picture problems.
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OB and his offense.

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