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Old 03-04-2014   #61
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Scouts getting together to coordinate official times

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Dee Ford has not looked good in passing drills. Looked lost covering seam route twice. Didn't turn his hips well or catch the ball
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#49ers and #Texans both put Eastern Illinois QB Jimmy Garoppolo through private workout already today at NU
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According to Auburn Officials Dee Ford ran a 4.59 in the 40 today... improves to a 4.53 40 on his 2nd run
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Early word from Auburn: Chris Davis/CB-RS 40.5 inch vertical & Dee Ford 29 reps on bench...Told former Auburn DB Demetruce McNeal working out
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Jim Harbaugh and Bill O'Brien are together today -- well, in the same place. Where? Northwestern, but star attraction is Jimmy Garopollo
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Dee Ford weighed in at 244 pounds Tuesday at Auburn's pro day. Clearly pushing for OLB designation.
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Robinson 5 lbs lighter. RT @wareagleextra: A few measurements/weights:
Tre Mason: 5-8 and a half, 205
Greg Robinson: 6-5, 327
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Buffalo's [b]Khalil Mack ran 4.55 today for approx 20 teams. Browns' Pettine, Raiders' McKenzie, Bills' Whaley among them http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...k-runs-453-455
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Surface/Wind may seem like a minor influence but when we're talking the difference between 4.50 and 4.45, it plays a huge role.

Many schools have players run on surfaces that tend to time faster than in Indy. Some also run outdoors w/ the wind.

As we enter Pro Day season, remember to take all 40 times with a giant grain of salt. Not all running surfaces/conditions created equal.

Another sleeper working out today: Isaiah Crowell @ Alabama State.. former top RB recruit at UGA, kicked out after felony weapons charges

Notable players working out today: Khalil Mack (Buffalo), Jimmy Garoppolo (@ Northwestern's Pro Day), Greg Robinson, T.Mason & Dee Ford (Auburn)

Today's Pro Days: Alabama State, Auburn, Buffalo, Eastern Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Slippery Rock, SMU

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Six Plays That Make Me A Fan Of WR Odell Beckham’s Game

2014 NFL Draft: Hageman, Moncrief And Savage Lead Pro Day Circuit's Day One

Horrific knee injury didn't ruin Henry Josey's career—it made him better than ever



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If OB likes arm strength I am not sure why Bortles would be high on his list, although I guess he could figure it is fixable.
What was Tom Brady velocity coming out of College compared to Blake Bortles?

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Aaron Donald validates dominant combine workout
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Published: March 3rd, 2014 | Tags: Aaron Donald, Devin Street, Pittsburgh, Tom Savage

Representatives from 30 NFL teams — including new Houston Texans coach Bill O’Brien, as well as Philadelphia Eagles coach Chip Kelly and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur — gathered at Pittsburgh’s pro day on March 3, where 10 players worked out indoors on FieldTurf.

Fast-rising 2014 NFL Draft prospect Aaron Donald (6-foot-1, 287 pounds) stood on his impressive numbers from the NFL Scouting Combine, where he ran a 4.68-second 40-yard dash, had 35 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press, registered a 32-inch vertical jump and 116-inch broad jump, and drew rave reviews for his performance.

Donald only went through field drills and looked very good, showing fluid movement and substantiating the performance he displayed at the combine.

There were two other players from Pitt at the combine, and here is how their pro days transpired:

Tom Savage, QB (6-4, 225) — Savage stood on his numbers from the combine, and only threw at the pro day. Savage displayed velocity on his throws, which were all to receiver Devin Street
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Northwestern?? odd.
Eastern Illinois doesn't have a pro day. Not exactly a hot bed for potential NFL prospects
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To finish up from yesterday, I’m told Pittsburgh quarterback Tom Savage was very impressive throwing the ball, connecting on most of the 100+ passes he tossed. As I posted on twitter, Houston Texans coach Bill O’Brien requested Savage throw a few specific sprint out passes at the end of the workout. I’m told to date Savage has six private workouts on his schedule.
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Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida (COM)
Aaron Donald, DL, Pittsburgh (COM)
Dee Ford, DL, Auburn (COM)
Ra'Shede Hageman, DL, Minnesota (SR)
Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (COM)
Jack Mewhort, OL, Ohio State (SR)
Stephen Morris, QB, Miami (SR)
Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (COM)
Jordan Tripp, LB, Montana (SR)
Updated list of player meetings. bolded are new entrants

Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida (COM)
Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville (COM)
Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State (COM)
Aaron Donald, DL, Pittsburgh (COM)
Dee Ford, DL, Auburn (COM)
Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois (PRO)
Demetri Goodson, DB, Baylor (COM)
Ra'Shede Hageman, DL, Minnesota (SR)
Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (COM)
Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (COM)
Jack Mewhort, OL, Ohio State (SR)
Stephen Morris, QB, Miami (SR)
Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (COM)
Jordan Tripp, LB, Montana (SR)

SR - Senior bowl
COM - combine
PRO - Pro day
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Updated list of player meetings. bolded are new entrants

Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida (COM)
Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville (COM)
Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State (COM)
Aaron Donald, DL, Pittsburgh (COM)
Dee Ford, DL, Auburn (COM)
Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois (PRO)
Demetri Goodson, DB, Baylor (COM)
Ra'Shede Hageman, DL, Minnesota (SR)
Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (COM)
Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (COM)
Jack Mewhort, OL, Ohio State (SR)
Stephen Morris, QB, Miami (SR)
Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (COM)
Jordan Tripp, LB, Montana (SR)

SR - Senior bowl
COM - combine
PRO - Pro day
Don't see Clowney on there. Hmmm.
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Can't tell you coming out of college, but in April 2009, this amazing video was generated:
Drew's throwing is impressive but they shouldn't have mucked it up with a fake archery comparison. Olympic archery is shot at 86.4 yds not 20.
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Big day for Pro Days today...
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Central Michigan
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Mississippi State
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A total of 20 NFL teams gathered in Madison, Wis. to see 10 Badgers prospects work out indoors on FieldTurf. A defensive backs coach from the Philadelphia Eagles and a linebackers coach from the Baltimore Ravens were on hand for the workout.

Borland, LB (247 pounds) — Borland ran the 40-yard dash in 4.84 and 4.87 seconds. He had a 35-inch vertical jump and a 9-foot-8 broad jump. He moved really well in the positional drills, a lot better than his times would indicate. He displayed really good anticipation, which was a hallmark of his college career. Borland will be a very interesting player in terms of where he’ll get selected in the draft.

Abbrederis, WR (he didn’t get measured or weighed) — Abbrederis...worked out great, having a pro day that was classified as “great.” One of the Oakland Raiders scouts on hand for the pro day threw passes to Abbrederis, who ran good routes, displayed good speed and caught the ball well.

James White, RB (206) — White...caught the ball well, but otherwise had the sort of workout that would indicate he’s more of a backup than a starter at the NFL level.

Ryan Groy, G (320) — Groy... had a good workout in the line drills.

Jacob Pedersen, TE (238) — Pedersen ran the 40 in 4.87 and 4.89 seconds. He also caught the ball well from the Raiders scout on hand to play quarterback in the passing drills.

Dezmen Southward, FS (6-foot-0 7/8, 212) — Southward... ran the 40 in 4.41 and 4.38 seconds... He had a 42-inch vertical jump and a 10-4 broad jump... had a 4.41-second short shuttle, a 11.50 60-yard long shuttle, and three-cone drill in 6.73 and 6.50 seconds.
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As I work my way through these players for the upcoming NFL Draft, there are always several highly thought of prospects that if I were running a draft for a club that I would not consider for one reason or another...
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The Alabama team doctor says OT Cyrus Kouandjio's surgically-repaired knee "shouldn't affect his ability to play in the NFL in the short term."
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Clemson Pro Day LIVE here: http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_...lemson-Pro-Day


Stevie #^&*&%#%#ing Football with Sammy Watkins

Pro Day list for Thursday: Clemson, Nebraska, Cincinnati, TCU, Illinois, Arizona, Alcorn State, Furman, Jackson State

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2014 NFL.com Draft grades.
  1. 7.5 JaDeveon Clowney
  2. 7.0 Sammy Watkins
  3. 6.7 Greg Robinson
  4. 6.7 Khalil Mack
  5. 6.7 Jake Matthews
  6. 6.6 Anthony Barr
  7. 6.5 Cj Mosley
  8. 6.4 Eric Ebron
  9. 6.4 Kelvin Benjamin
  10. 6.4 Blake Bortles
  11. 6.3 Justin Gilbert
  12. 6.3 Teddy Bridgewater
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Ohio State linebacker Ryan Shazier didn’t run the 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine because of a tweaked hamstring. At his Friday Pro Day, he tweaked it again at the end of the run.

And yet he still covered the 120 feet in 4.36 seconds. Unofficially.

Yes, a linebacker ran the 40 in 4.37 seconds. And he weighed 237 pounds, more than the scouts expected.


“I feel like I can gain 10 more pounds if I had to,” Shazier said, via Cleveland.com. “I feel good right now.”

At the Scouting Combine, Shazier also sprang 42 inches in the vertical jump, more than anyone.
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