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Old 03-02-2014   #121
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Patriots writer Erik Frenz just said they would want a 2nd for Ryan Mallett, then explained why and finished with "if they can't get more than a 3rd" they'll keep him and let him go next year. Freudian slip...? If OB wants him I bet 3-1 does it.
If 3-1 did the trick then my draft would hopefully look like this

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Austin Howard (RT) NY Jets

One article I read suggested it would cost about $7 million to get him though.
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Austin Howard (RT) NY Jets

One article I read suggested it would cost about $7 million to get him though.
Michael Oher has not panned out as a star but he would be a giant upgrade on last year.
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Michael Oher has not panned out as a star but he would be a giant upgrade on last year.
i doubt it. declining o-lineman seldom work out.
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i doubt it. declining o-lineman seldom work out.
Oher is not declining. He just isn't as good as his hype.
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Yes. Not as good as when he left (and was overrated) but still an upgrade in both pass pro and rush blocking. Better coordination with RG and savvier. You are always going to pull some extra false starts with him though.

Another negative is having to listen to the b!tching from people obsessed with him appearing on the radio a couple times a week instead of silently sitting on his ass at home sucking the centers out of twinkies, naked on a bean bag chair.
Agree! Way to much was made out of that.
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Not sure how you think that article supports he's blacklisted. He was offered and turned down a contract. He clearly is not willing to play for vet minimum.
He was offered a deal for peanuts after he balled out continuously the years previous. If it's your last deal of your career and you KNOW you're worth more than peanuts you will always try to test the market. It's weird that not one team offered more than the vet minimum though. This will be a 30 for 30 story on ESPN within 10 years, I would be willing to bet on that.

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You always have to be aware of what peyton can do to make wrs look better. Not saying decker can't be good,but he's a #2. The texans have a 1 and a 2. If they feel like aj's replacement isn't on the roster,they can draft a wr in the 1st 3rds.
I agree. I would never pursue a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady FA WR. Look at Brandon Stokely for example.

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Any good RTs available?
http://overthecap.com/freeagents.php...n=RT&Year=2014

Older LTs that don't have the market they think often can be converted to right:

http://overthecap.com/freeagents.php...n=LT&Year=2014

I'd definitely be down with pursuing one of these guys. I especially like the idea of signing Oher to a short term deal where he has to prove he still he has it while having other RTs on the team compete (Williams).

Oher is only 27 so it's not like his best football is behind him. He was just overrated because a movie was made about him. When the movie was released he wasn't even graded that high on PFF lists from what I remember, just a feel good story.
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He was offered a deal for peanuts after he balled out continuously the years previous. If it's your last deal of your career and you KNOW you're worth more than peanuts you will always try to test the market. It's weird that not one team offered more than the vet minimum though. This will be a 30 for 30 story on ESPN within 10 years, I would be willing to bet on that.
This would be a lot more persuasive if you weren't adding facts of your own creation and ignoring facts which were included in your article. It does not say vet minimum - you added that. It does say he has a reputation for not being committed to football according to a former teammate who says that is the problem - you ignore that. He has also now been presented with the perfect opportunity to come out if he is gay and continues to deny it when arguably it would now be to his benefit.
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Michael Oher has not panned out as a star but he would be a giant upgrade on last year.
I thought about Oher, but I just don't get a warm & fuzzy feeling about him. However, I do hope we sign a veteran RT in free agency & solve that problem once & for all.
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I thought about Oher, but I just don't get a warm & fuzzy feeling about him. However, I do hope we sign a veteran RT in free agency & solve that problem once & for all.
I'm not advocating Oher. My preference is a 2nd or 3rd rd RT, but he is a free agent option if the price is right and someone doesn't overpay on lingering hype.
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I'm not advocating Oher. My preference is a 2nd or 3rd rd RT, but he is a free agent option if the price is right and someone doesn't overpay on lingering hype.
Chester Pitts in his prime was a better RT than Other is although they never played him there.
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Totally agree although you and I are in a small cadre of Pitts fans.
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Totally agree although you and I are in a small cadre of Pitts fans.
I agree with both of you.

Chester was never valued as highly as he should have been during his time here.
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This would be a lot more persuasive if you weren't adding facts of your own creation and ignoring facts which were included in your article. It does not say vet minimum - you added that. It does say he has a reputation for not being committed to football according to a former teammate who says that is the problem - you ignore that. He has also now been presented with the perfect opportunity to come out if he is gay and continues to deny it when arguably it would now be to his benefit.
I said peanuts with regards to Cardinals. The Cardinals asked him to take a paycut from his scheduled $5.5 million owed salary to $3 million after posting probably the best year of his career and therefore ending his career on a reduced salary. This happens every year and guys say no and find other deals (Jennings, Welker are the first 2 I can think of from last year).

I thought that I read he was offered 1 deal after all this for the vet minimum and he declined it based on the fact that he felt he was worth more. PFF had him rated as the #4 safety in 2012. I remembered wrong looking back, it was an article talking about how teams only had to offer him the vet minimum to acquire his skills. If you want to not believe any of it based me typing that wrong that's fine though, I will survive with whatever decision you or anyone else makes.

Perfect opportunity to come out? LOL, working real well for Michael Sam. People were looking for an excuse to make the guy undrafted and guess what... they found it, but it wasn't about what he could or could not do on the football field.

I will leave this alone, but to imply I am intentionally making things up is untrue. I'm sure we can all nit pick subtle details in many posts on here. Regardless, Think whatever you want, it is your right and I respect that, but there are always 2 sides to every story, take the teammates, that's fine with me.

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Coincidentally, the rumors regarding Rhodes’ sexuality hit the Internet in April.
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I agree with both of you.

Chester was never valued as highly as he should have been during his time here.
I always thought Chester was a clubhouse lawyer who was looking forward to his post NFL media career. He accomplished his goal. (Winston?)
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I said peanuts with regards to Cardinals. The Cardinals asked him to take a paycut from his scheduled $5.5 million owed salary to $3 million after posting probably the best year of his career and therefore ending his career on a reduced salary. This happens every year and guys say no and find other deals (Jennings, Welker are the first 2 I can think of from last year).

I thought that I read he was offered 1 deal after all this for the vet minimum and he declined it based on the fact that he felt he was worth more. PFF had him rated as the #4 safety in 2012. I remembered wrong looking back, it was an article talking about how teams only had to offer him the vet minimum to acquire his skills. If you want to not believe any of it based me typing that wrong that's fine though, I will survive with whatever decision you or anyone else makes.

Perfect opportunity to come out? LOL, working real well for Michael Sam. People were looking for an excuse to make the guy undrafted and guess what... they found it, but it wasn't about what he could or could not do on the football field.

I will leave this alone, but to imply I am intentionally making things up is untrue. I'm sure we can all nit pick subtle details in many posts on here. Regardless, Think whatever you want, it is your right and I respect that, but there are always 2 sides to every story, take the teammates, that's fine with me.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-interest-now/
Does anybody else think Sam came out of the closet to gain attention to himself?

Because his combine numbers say he's a 7th rd/UDFA guy.
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Does anybody else think Sam came out of the closet to gain attention to himself?

Because his combine numbers say he's a 7th rd/UDFA guy.
There is a thread for Sam in the NSZ.
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I know we won't look at him, but I wouldn't mind giving Johnny Jolly a shot. He appears to have gotten past his codeine addiction and was looking good before his injury. Neck injuries usually aren't things I'd mess with, but he's doing good from what I've gathered

His $$ should be reasonable too
But, but what if he pulls that pistol on Rick?
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They have grown tired of his constant off the field problems and his behavior toward coaches/management. They haven't even spoken to him about a new contract. He gone.
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