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View Poll Results: Who would be your #1 pick?
Clowney DE 23 21.90%
Mack OLB 3 2.86%
Bridgewater QB 40 38.10%
Manziel QB 16 15.24%
Bortles QB 6 5.71%
Watkins WR 3 2.86%
Matthews OT 4 3.81%
Robinson OT 10 9.52%
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Old 02-25-2014   #101
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The price depends on how far down we are willing to move. Where does the elite talent drop off at?
Since all of the 8 players listed here received votes (with Mack only getting 1 vote, but also seeming to be Mayocks favorite), I guess you could say 8 - maybe you could even include players like Barr.

I like trading down for the right offer, but I am still a believer in Bridgewater and I would be very intrigued with Manziel. Overall I would only trade down, if we don`t believe in either QB. I donīt think any other player is worth keeping the pick (instead of a great offer) since we have great depth this season.

And I don`t really like Clowney. Sure, he is a physical freak and maybe a generational talent. But with the way he handles himself and never really giving 100%, I don`t like that. He can get by on his talent alone - and he will be able to get by on talent alone with the pros. But he will never be dominating if he doesn`t drastically change his work ethic and on the field energy. I don`t like to take that chance.

So trade the first pick for a great offer, if you don`t believe in either QB. If you do, I don`t care what the offer is, you take the QB. Right now Iīd say: take Bridgewater.
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[quote=LikeMike;2304384]Since all of the 8 players listed here received votes (with Mack only getting 1 vote, but also seeming to be Mayocks favorite), I guess you could say 8 - maybe you could even include players like Barr.

I like trading down for the right offer, but I am still a believer in Bridgewater and I would be very intrigued with Manziel. Overall I would only trade down, if we don`t believe in either QB. I donīt think any other player is worth keeping the pick (instead of a great offer) since we have great depth this season.

And I don`t really like Clowney. Sure, he is a physical freak and maybe a generational talent. But with the way he handles himself and never really giving 100%, I don`t like that. He can get by on his talent alone - and he will be able to get by on talent alone with the pros. But he will never be dominating if he doesn`t drastically change his work ethic and on the field energy. I don`t like to take that chance.

So trade the first pick for a great offer, if you don`t believe in either QB. If you do, I don`t care what the offer is, you take the QB. Right now Iīd say: take Bridgewater.[/QUOTE

Clowney will be a perennial double digit sack artist who never lives up to the expectations. Good but not great.
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The lack of quality from this year crops of QBs makes it easy for me to choose Clowney @#1.
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Since all of the 8 players listed here received votes (with Mack only getting 1 vote, but also seeming to be Mayocks favorite), I guess you could say 8 - maybe you could even include players like Barr.

I like trading down for the right offer, but I am still a believer in Bridgewater and I would be very intrigued with Manziel. Overall I would only trade down, if we don`t believe in either QB. I donīt think any other player is worth keeping the pick (instead of a great offer) since we have great depth this season.

And I don`t really like Clowney. Sure, he is a physical freak and maybe a generational talent. But with the way he handles himself and never really giving 100%, I don`t like that. He can get by on his talent alone - and he will be able to get by on talent alone with the pros. But he will never be dominating if he doesn`t drastically change his work ethic and on the field energy. I don`t like to take that chance.

So trade the first pick for a great offer, if you don`t believe in either QB. If you do, I don`t care what the offer is, you take the QB. Right now Iīd say: take Bridgewater.
I had to double check who wrote this as it's verbatim how I feel! If OB see a QB he must have then I'm great taking him at 1.1. Outside of that I really want to trade down (like with CLE) and stockpile draft picks. Would take best available at #4 whether that's Robinson or Mack or hell even Clowney. Really want to be able to pick up another pick this draft and a 2015 1st with a trade down.

If we MUST stay at 1.1 I still like Bridgewater. But my mind is open and I look forward to seeing how this all plays out
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I had to double check who wrote this as it's verbatim how I feel! If OB see a QB he must have then I'm great taking him at 1.1. Outside of that I really want to trade down (like with CLE) and stockpile draft picks. Would take best available at #4 whether that's Robinson or Mack or hell even Clowney. Really want to be able to pick up another pick this draft and a 2015 1st with a trade down.

If we MUST stay at 1.1 I still like Bridgewater. But my mind is open and I look forward to seeing how this all plays out
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I've said from the start that there is good qualities in all three of theses guys. If we pick one of them I'll be fine with the choice. If Obrian takes one it's going to be because he believes that particular player fits his system the best. If he takes Clowney I'll be fine with that too. Hell I'm cool with Watkins or Robinson. I can justify any of those picks.

IMO all these guys should be difference makers. I think it's silly to lock onto one of them and dog the rest. I'm happy as hell we are going to get one of them.
yep pretty much how i have felt for awhile.
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No sure thing at the QB position this year. So I voted clowney. Take mccarron 2.1 Look for a vet around the league to push a.j.
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Clowney will be a perennial double digit sack artist who never lives up to the expectations. Good but not great.
That's why he had 3.5 sacks last season against college competition !? So much for perennial .....

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No sure thing at the QB position this year. So I voted clowney. Take mccarron 2.1 Look for a vet around the league to push a.j.
I fell off the McCarron wagon after watching him throw the other day .... Give me Garoppolo @ 2:1.
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fell off the McCarron wagon after watching him throw the other day .... Give me Garoppolo @ 2:1.

Fair enough. I'll admit I havent watched much of Garoppolo
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I want a trade down and pick Robinson (Who I voted for) or Clowney at 4. In the trade I want Cleveland's 2nd and a 2015 1st.

Garappolo or Murray would be my QB pick.
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I'm starting lean that way too, but it just feels wrong considering our need at QB.

Watkins is the only guy that doesn't have any questions marks for me.
No ?'s on height? Only 6'1"?

If you're a short WR in the league you generally need a special QB to succeed. If you're being drafted in the top 5 you generally don't have a special QB.
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No ?'s on height? Only 6'1"?

If you're a short WR in the league you generally need a special QB to succeed. If you're being drafted in the top 5 you generally don't have a special QB.
How is 6'1" a short WR? Jeez ...
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In ten years 6 1 will be short for a corner.
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In ten years 6 1 will be short for a corner.
Folks were saying that ten years ago.
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I'm still on the Bridgewater bandwagon, but I agree with some folks that there isn't a true clear #1 prospect in this draft. However, sometimes you gotta take a chance and get a guy who will develop into someone worthy of the #1 overall pick. There is no Andrew Luck, unfortunately, so we will have to take the guy who is most likely to become that franchise QB. I think it will be Teddy.
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Folks were saying that ten years ago.
They were just ahead of their time.
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They were just ahead of their time.
Well, I guess you'll have that consolation 10 years from now.
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not much consolation.
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I'm still on the Bridgewater bandwagon, but I agree with some folks that there isn't a true clear #1 prospect in this draft. However, sometimes you gotta take a chance and get a guy who will develop into someone worthy of the #1 overall pick. There is no Andrew Luck, unfortunately, so we will have to take the guy who is most likely to become that franchise QB. I think it will be Teddy.
Same place I'm at. I could make a case for 7 guys to be the #1 pick. But in such a muddled group, QB is such a huge need that I can convince myself to go QB and Teddy is the one I happen to like the most.
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Rumor being floated around is close friends Falcons Thomas Dimitroff and Rams Les Snead already have a trade in place contingent on who the Texans select. Targets could be Clowney or Mack, if...
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