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Old 02-20-2014   #61
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Yes. In that mock draft simulator thread I picked Amaro in the 2nd. So I am not against the idea. 4th or later I would keep OD for a year and not bother trying to sign Graham.
I would keep Graham and cut OD. Old n busted is not what this team needs
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Draft Crockett Gilmore in the 5th and/or Najvar in the 6/7th.

Cut OD and spend that $$$$ on Soliai.
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I'd keep OD, let Graham walk.......

Take Watkins in the first, I want Moses in the second, but I'll take the best TE/OG/OT available. Grab a couple of TEs/OGs later in the draft, Andre Williams in the 5th, 6th. Then give Keenum Aj, Watkins, Hopkins, Posey, Cruz, Martin, Jean, OD & go win a championship.
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I would keep Graham and cut OD. Old n busted is not what this team needs
We don't have Graham, he is UFA. And young and half as good is not what this team needs.
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any whre between 27 mill and 7 mill is were u wanna be look at the Packers and Ravens two pretty much consistent Franchise ball clubs


sadly the Texans are not there
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I wonder what Graham is thinking should he say I need to get dat hell outta here and this might be my last chance to be a F/A and go for the highest payer

or maybe he stays here knowing that he has a good chance to leap frog OD or wait around cuz he knows OD will be cut if not this year then next by O brein

I would go with the first choice TBO im sure that's what his agent will say go with the sure bet GET DAT MONEY !!!
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There is zero reason to extend Watt this year.
I thought this is the last year of his rookie contract. Does he have another year?
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We don't have Graham, he is UFA. And young and half as good is not what this team needs.
Whichever way they go (GG or OD) they need to draft another TE because we are thin at the position, and neither GG or OD can seem to stay healthy. I think both were out with injuries at the end of last season and left the Texans with only 1 TE by the last couple of games (Griffin, a rookie 6th rd pick). If "Obie" likes to run a 2 TE set like he did in NE I don't think he'll rely on just GG or OD and Griffin. Heck, he might want to keep both and draft one.
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We don't have Graham, he is UFA. And young and half as good is not what this team needs.
That's what I've been thinking. Graham has just never put it all together in my opinion. Not sure why but when he got here I was hoping for a "better" OD. What we seem to have gotten was more like a "shadow" of OD.

Griffin can do that and he still has more upside while costing less to keep.
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I thought this is the last year of his rookie contract. Does he have another year?
With the new CBA the contract is for four years and this is the last year of that period. BUT, the team has an option for a fifth year. Then there is the option of franchise tags. So:

2014 - rookie contract
2015 - team option extension
2016 - franchise

The Texans have the leverage. If they can get him to sign long term at something reasonable then great but if JJ demands a contract like some around here project then it makes no sense for the Texans to not play out their hand and leave the risk on JJ.
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could we make a play at orkapo if we cut OD and schaub with that cap
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could we make a play at orkapo if we cut OD and schaub with that cap
Or how about Demarcus Ware, don't know if Dallas can afford to keep him ?
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could we make a play at orkapo if we cut OD and schaub with that cap
Draft Clowney and bring Orakpo home= pass rush problems solved for the next day.
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The Texans have until May 3rd to activate the 5th year option on Watt. The pay will be result of #3-#24 salaries at that position. Pretty good number if I recall.

The Texans could negotiate an extension this offseason to his rookie contract and lock him up for the foreseeable future. The Texans could activate the 5th year option. The Texans could do nothing and let him hit free agency next offseason with a massive bidding war that the Texans would lose.

Option #1 would be best.

As for OD & Graham. You let Graham walk. Graham is probably the #3 TE free agent, and the top two (J. Graham and D. Pitta) are likely to both get franchised. Making G. Graham one of the higher rated TE free agents...so he will get a good payday elsewhere. You stick with OD & Griffin. OD's contract is finished after the 2014 season. Draft another TE in this draft. Run with Griffin and 2014 rookie and TBA player for 2015.
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Great news if it keeps moving up, now to $132 million. Top 51 contract limitation hits on March 11th. That's when we will have a better idea on the final team salary cap.
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Great news if it keeps moving up, now to $132 million. Top 51 contract limitation hits on March 11th. That's when we will have a better idea on the final team salary cap.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-132-million/

Now will be up to $135 million.

Gives the Raiders 70 million free.....damn
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Now will be up to $135 million.

Gives the Raiders 70 million free.....damn
Hope they don't spend it all at once....hehe.

Salary cap will be set come March 11th.
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About $8.2m under if the cap is set at $132m for the Texans.
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About $8.2m under if the cap is set at $132m for the Texans.
Cutting OD/Schaub/AS with the 8.2 should be more than enough to sign Soliai and Orakpo in FA. Setting up the draft to be mainly an all offense draft.

Give me Clowney 1-1, sign Soliai and Orakpo in FA and draft Goodson in the 6th and I'm a very happy camper. The rest of the picks could be spent on offense.

Bring Brian Orakpo home!!!!!!!
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