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Old 02-19-2014   #2341
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I'd take that over the crap we went through with Vince & Bush..... I think this is going to be much worse.
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Here's what Eric Galko, the Director of Scouting for Optimum Scouting and lead editor of www.OptimumScouting.com., lead NFL Draft analyst for Sporting News and regular contributor at National Football Post and TheFootballEducator.com as well, had to say about Manziel. When I read this, I find it hard to argue with.

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Manziel isn’t ready to be an NFL starter — at least not one that can last. His game is predicated on elusiveness in the pocket, creativity as a runner and the ability to force defenses to hold their coverage longer than the average three-to-four seconds. The professional level is simply too fast, too big and too quick to adjust schematically for those attributes to remain Johnny Football's calling card.
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Here's what Eric Galko, the Director of Scouting for Optimum Scouting and lead editor of www.OptimumScouting.com., lead NFL Draft analyst for Sporting News and regular contributor at National Football Post and TheFootballEducator.com as well, had to say about Manziel. When I read this, I find it hard to argue with.

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I think how effectively he can be elusive will directly translate to the pounding he is going to take trying to extend plays.
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NO! It will be a thing where we'll forever compare him to HWBNBN!
Man, you HATE Johnny Manziel. Wow...
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I'd take that over the crap we went through with Vince & Bush..... I think this is going to be much worse.
Hardly. The Manziel pushers aren't even the majority on this board. The Bridgewater group is probably the largest, with Team Jadeveon and Team Manziel duking it out for #2.
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Hardly. The Manziel pushers aren't even the majority on this board. The Bridgewater group is probably the largest, with Team Jadeveon and Team Manziel duking it out for #2.
The Bridgewater group MAY be the largest but they are the least motivated in toto.
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I think how effectively he can be elusive will directly translate to the pounding he is going to take trying to extend plays.
Yep...it'll be something similar to this...kid's a gamer, but sometimes you just gotta take a loss.

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The Bridgewater group MAY be the largest but they are the least motivated in toto.
It's because they lack confidence because they don't have hot girlfriends.
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It's because they lack confidence because they don't have hot girlfriends.
And they're all cross dressers
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Well, it's hardly Manziel's fault Lord Bills is pulling for him.

Unless Manziel is Lord Bills
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So who will weigh more? A 6'0" Manziel or a 6'1˝" Bridgewater???
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So who will weigh more? A 6'0" Manziel or a 6'1˝" Bridgewater???
Those heights aren't official yet are they?

I'll stick with my expectations of Manziel at 190-195 and Bridgewater around 205.

Btw, Bovada has Manziel line at 4.49, Watkins 4.32, Clowney 4.5, Eisen 6.05.
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I won't be surprised if Clowney has a better 40. Big feet gives an athlete good traction.......a perfect setup for Manziel's stop, start, quick change of direction elusiveness. But it's just like a large low gear on a bicycle. In a straight ahead 40, large feet are a detriment..........a higher small gear (smaller feet) is an advantage.
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Those heights aren't official yet are they?
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I'll stick with my expectations of Manziel at 190-195 and Bridgewater around 205.
Manziel 205, TB 212 for me.

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I won't be surprised if Clowney has a better 40...
Would shock the peepee outta me.
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I won't be surprised if Clowney has a better 40. Big feet gives an athlete good traction.......a perfect setup for Manziel's stop, start, quick change of direction elusiveness. But it's just like a large low gear on a bicycle. In a straight ahead 40, large feet are a detriment..........a higher small gear (smaller feet) is an advantage.
Possibly, but I'm betting Manziel's 3-cone (which I tend to think is more akin to scrambling) will be smokin'
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So who will weigh more? A 6'0" Manziel or a 6'1˝" Bridgewater???
No way we draft a QB who isn't at least 6'3" with the #1 overall pick.

Somewhere deep in the 3rd round.... understandable.

Even a 2nd rounder. Late first. But 1.1

No way.
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No way we draft a QB who isn't at least 6'3" with the #1 overall pick.
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So you wouldn't draft Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers first overall?
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So you wouldn't draft Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers first overall?

No, JaMarcus Russell is more worthy of the #1 pick.
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