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Old 02-18-2014   #81
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First set of combine participants have arrived here in Indy today. Nice day; missed snow, cold by a day. #NFLCombine
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when are the weigh ins and heights done for QBs???
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when are the weigh ins and heights done for QBs???
Wednesday, Feb. 19: Registration, hospital pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

Thursday, Feb. 20: Measurements, medical examinations, media, interviews

Friday, Feb. 21: NFLPA meeting, psychological testing, kickers and specialists workout, bench press, interviews

Saturday, Feb. 22: Tight ends, offensive linemen, special teams drills

Sunday, Feb. 23: Quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers drills

Monday, Feb. 24: Defensive linemen, linebackers drills

Tuesday, Feb. 25: Defensive backs drills

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Wednesday, Feb. 19: Registration, hospital pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

Thursday, Feb. 20: Measurements, medical examinations, media, interviews

Friday, Feb. 21: NFLPA meeting, psychological testing, kickers and specialists workout, bench press, interviews

Saturday, Feb. 22: Tight ends, offensive linemen, special teams drills

Sunday, Feb. 23: Quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers drills

Monday, Feb. 24: Defensive linemen, linebackers drills

Tuesday, Feb. 25: Defensive backs drills

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msr. thanks mate
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More specifically...

Wednesday, Feb. 19
PK/ST/OL/TE medical pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

Thursday, Feb. 20
PK/ST/OL/TE measurements, medical exams, media, interviews
QB/WR/RB medical pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

Friday, Feb. 21
PK/ST workout; PK/ST/OL/TE bench press, psychological testing, interviews
QB/WR/RB measurements, medical exams, media, interviews
DL/LB medical pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

Saturday, Feb. 22
OL/TE on-field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)
QB/WR/RB psychological testing, bench press, interviews
DL/LB measurements, medical exams, media, interviews
DB medical pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

Sunday, Feb. 23
QB/WR/RB on-field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)
DL/LB psychological testing, bench press, interviews
DB measurements, medical exams, media, interviews

Monday, Feb. 24
DL/LB on-field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)
DB psychological testing, bench press, interviews

Tuesday, Feb. 25
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More than you would think, Rivera had to add a 6th captain to make Cam a Captain, read what Smith and Gross had to say, and the story goes Pro Bowl players really wanted little to do with Cam at the Pro Bowl. The story is the OL laid down refusing to block for Cam.

like I said...you really don't know....but I'm here to help

https://www.google.com/search?q=Cam+...fox&channel=sb

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Try again Suzie. You were asked to provide any confirmation from his collegiate career (you know, the one that Nawrocki supposedly based his evaluation on). You whiffed, miserably.

BTW - You really, REALLY ned to actually look at the stories your 2nd link pulls up (you know, that Google search?). It shows how far off Nawrocki's analysis was. Go ahead, man up and read the first four stories from your Google search.

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"This is a physical sport, and it's hard to simulate when you're trying to protect a person's career," Newton said. "You don't want anyone to leave Hawaii injured and have to sit out next year.

"You've got to play smart and have fun, but you've also got to be competitive as well. With the format this year, it will bring a twist that will be good for the fans."

Regardless of which team he landed on, Newton is thrilled to be surrounded by his real teammates – those that wear Panthers black and blue.

"It's great," Newton said. "We've got Luke, Kalil, Jordan, J.J., Tolbert and Kraken – and a lot of guys that aren't here that deserve to be here."
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So, how much has Newton grown since then?

For starters, he changed his demeanor and attitude around dramatically in his third season as the Panthers quarterback. His actions weren't defined as brooding or sulking but rather those of a leader. Over the course of the 2013-14 season, Newton would engineer four come-from-behind wins, three of which were against playoff contenders.
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Nawrocki has carved out a niche for himself as the fearless, dyspeptic critic of black guys' comportment (see his scouting report for Geno Smith), but he's really only channeling the ancient, mostly suppressed chauvinism of pro football's management class, which flowers anew in the runup to every draft. That's when we hear about players' "character issues," a broad-unto-meaninglessness category under which everything from pot smoking to sexual assault gets classified. That's when we hear about attitude problems and "fake smiles" and a "selfish, me-first makeup." (It's anyone's guess how much of this is disinformation promulgated in the hopes of sandbagging a desired prospect.

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That's in the past now. He's also doing a better job of endearing himself to his teammates. He still isn't one of those hangout guys with them, but he's getting better at interacting with them.

Rivera has noticed.

"One of the things he's taken to heart is that it's not just about him wanting to be the best, it's about him wanting to help make his teammates the best," Rivera said. "You notice that now more."
Sure, I may "not know". It's certain Nawrocki doesn't. He's probably not the coattails you were looking to ride on. Should I attach a Google search for Nawrocki & 1diot?
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I think arguing about scouts should be banned, or at least go make another sub forum about it. Annoying as **** coming into read about football players and everyone is arguing about whether or not some fat bald guy is smart or not.
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I think arguing about scouts should be banned, or at least go make another sub forum about it. Annoying as **** coming into read about football players and everyone is arguing about whether or not some fat bald guy is smart or not.
Technically, it is "reading about football players" when the aforementioned fat bald guy starts dissing them from afar, but I digress.

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Technically, it is "reading about football players" when the aforementioned fat bald guy starts dissing them from afar, but I digress.

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No I gotcha, I just think its a dumb habit a lot of us are in that instead of defending our players via football facts, we defend the scouts that defend them is a pseudo defensive type of way.

Anyways, two of the things I am looking forward most to in he combine is Manziel's 3 cone time and Bridgewaters hand size. Manziel's 3 cone time doesn't really have a whole lot of impact on his draft stock, but I think it is going to be insanely fast.
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No I gotcha, I just think its a dumb habit a lot of us are in that instead of defending our players via football facts, we defend the scouts that defend them is a pseudo defensive type of way.

Anyways, two of the things I am looking forward most to in he combine is Manziel's 3 cone time and Bridgewaters hand size. Manziel's 3 cone time doesn't really have a whole lot of impact on his draft stock, but I think it is going to be insanely fast.
The three-cone is one of the ones I'm waiting for too. It'll be interesting to see if Bortles is on par with Bridgewater.
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It'll be interesting to see if Bortles is on par with Bridgewater.
I highly doubt it, Bortles is an above average athlete at the QB position, but I don't think his 3 cone time will be on par with Bridgewater if for nothing than the simple physics of him being taller and heavier.

Clowney's will be interesting too, I think he will run something similar too what Barkevious Mingo ran last year at a 6.84, maybe a little faster.
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First report out of Indy:

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Cowboys win coin toss, giving them No. 16 overall draft pick. Ravens will pick at No. 17. http://on.nfl.com/1oRJL4B
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Justin Gilbert, Dri Archer head race to be combine's fastest man
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In the NFL, speed matters. So it's little wonder that the 40-yard dash is annually one of the most hotly anticipated drills at the NFL Scouting Combine. Running a blistering time is one of the quickest ways for a prospect to build buzz, especially if he can nab the title of combine's fastest. Think of how receiver Marquise Goodwin turned heads in 2013 after he posted a 4.27-second 40 -- the best time in five years.

Who will go down as the fastest player in Indianapolis this year? Here's a list of five candidates with a great shot:
Bucky Brooks: 10 players with big questions to answer at combine
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The NFL Scouting Combine is viewed as a glorified track meet by some observers, but scouts and coaches view the event as a four-day job interview. Personnel men will bombard top prospects with a variety of questions to assess their background profile and football character heading into the NFL. Although these interviews are cross-referenced with discussions with former coaches, administrators and teammates, the 15- to 30-minute conversations play a significant role on the final evaluations.

Given the importance of the interview process, I thought I would put on my scout's hat and come up with a pressing question for 10 of the most intriguing prospects in the draft. While I don't know how each player will respond, I can give you an idea of how teams will approach the interview process in Indianapolis to get to the answers needed to make solid assessments going forward.

Without further ado, here's what these players can expect to hear in meeting rooms at the combine:

1. Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
Question: Do you love football?

Answer I would like to hear...

2. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
Question: Do you want to be a star or a champion?

Answer I would like to hear...

3. Marqise Lee, WR, USC
Question: Why did your production slip dramatically in 2013?
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4. Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
Question: How will you adjust to the increased competition in the NFL?
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5. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
Question: What makes you the best cover corner in the 2014?
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6. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
Question: What is your best defensive position?
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7. Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State
Question: Did your added weight negatively affect your game in 2013?
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8. Michael Sam, DE, Missouri
Question: Are you comfortable moving to OLB as a pro?
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9. Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida
Question: What kept you from playing to your potential this season?
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10. Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
Question: Do you have any concerns about taking punishment at your current size?
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2014 NFL Scouting Combine preview
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The 2014 NFL Scouting Combine begins on Thursday, with media sessions running through Sunday and workouts going until Tuesday. Deride the combine all you want; it is sort of strange. But the event carries a considerable amount of weight for teams.

Most importantly, teams can perform medical evaluations (the original intention of the combine), get official sizes for underclassmen entrants and interview players. Those are the most important things for teams at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis.

The TV glitz and glamor events – drills and press conferences – will overtake football media over the next several days. Here are the key storylines to follow at this year's combine...

2014 NFL Combine: 10 prospects with the most to gain/lose
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Stop me if you've heard this before, but the Combine is just one piece to the overall puzzle that is the NFL Draft process. But it's an extremely important piece and far more than just 40-yard dash times.

From the medical evaluation to the team interviews and all the on-field drills, the NFL Combine puts the top prospects under the same microscope. Indianapolis becomes NFL headquarters for a week and NFL hopefuls are put through an intense ringer that is a 24/7 job interview. Lives will change at the NFL Combine, some positively and others negatively. Of the 331 prospects invited to the NFL Combine last year, 32 went in the first round (10.3%) and 109 went undrafted (32.9%).

Fact is, this list could include all 300+ names because each prospect has something to gain or lose at the NFL Combine, but these 10 stand out as prospects who could make or lose substantial money in Indianapolis this week.

10. TE Colt Lyerla, Ex-Oregon
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9. WR Martavis Bryant, Clemson
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8. CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State
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7. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
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6. Notre Dame DL: Louis Nix, Stephon Tuitt
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5. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
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4. Physical marvels: OT Greg Robinson, DE Jadeveon Clowney
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3. DT Dominique Easley, Florida
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2. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M
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1. All 19 Quarterbacks
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Derek Carr deemed @SeniorBowl prep more important, and will throw at Fresno St.’s Pro Day. With positive SB reviews, no need to deviate.

#Fresno St. QB Derek Carr will not throw at @NFL Scouting Combine, per source. He will do other drills. Carr will throw at Fresno’s Pro Day

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2014 NFL Combine: From 40 times to Fritos, 10 Bold Predictions
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10. News flash - fast guys run fast. There will be plenty of eye-popping results from lower-level players, but expect South Carolina's Jadeveon Clowney, Buffalo's Khalil Mack and UCLA's Anthony Barr - the three highest-rated defenders on NFLDraftScout.com's board - to star in this setting. Don't be surprised if each is clocked in the 4.5-second range in the 40-yard dash.

9. Speedsters in surprising packages. Speaking of the 40, the top times typically recorded each year come from wide receivers or cornerbacks, but watch out for a pair of running backs - Baylor's Lache Seastrunk and Oregon's De'Anthony Thomas - to light up the track.

8. Sleepers at Receiver. Extending the limb a bit, write down the names of these four wide receivers: Fresno State's Davante Adams, Wyoming's Robert Herron, New Mexico State's Austin Franklin, Saginaw Valley State's Jeff Janis and Colorado's Paul Richardson. Each may post all-around workouts that rival or perhaps even beat the efforts this week from Clemson's Sammy Watkins or Southern Cal's Marqise Lee, the two best receivers in the 2014 draft.

7. With Risers, come Fallers. Many NFL personnel types will tell you that a poor workout at the combine can't hurt your grade, but watch how Michigan State cornerback Darqueze Dennard and Florida State wideout Kelvin Benjamin slip down mock drafts when each turns in a slower than ideal 40 time. Neither looks faster than mid-4.5s on tape and times in the 4.6s wouldn't shock me.

6. Big speed. A final note on the 40; two years ago Memphis defensive tackle Dontari Poe sprung up draft boards by clocking in at 4.89 seconds at 6-feet-4, 346 pounds. This year's fastest "fat" guy will be Minnesota's RaShede Hageman, who measured in at 6-6, 318 pounds a few weeks ago at the Senior Bowl and may prove even faster. (Quick side note, because getting beaten to a bloody pulp is decidedly not among the things I'd like to have occur in Indianapolis, let's keep the calling 'Shede "fat" between us, okay?)

5. Teddy will be ready. Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater won't be fat but after officially being listed at 6-3, 205 pounds for the Cardinals throughout his junior season, expect him to weigh in significantly heavier in Indianapolis, easing some of the concerns scouts have about his ability to hold up physically in the NFL.

4. Wiz kid could challenge Wonderlic. The NFL says the famed Wonderlic isn't an intelligence test, but Penn State right guard John Urschel is smart enough to recognize the exam for what it is. This year's recipient of the William V. Campbell Trophy as the nation's top football scholar-athlete is smart enough to recognize plenty of things. He earned a 4.0 GPA while receiving his Master's Degree in Mathematics in May, and spent his off-time teaching a class (Trigonometry and Analytic Geometry) to fellow Penn State students. Further, he had a paper published -- "Instabilities of the Sun-Jupiter-Asteroid Three Body Problem" -- last spring in the journal, Celestial Mechanics and Dynamical Astronomy.

Math is one of several content areas found on the Wonderlic and therefore it is possible that Urschel may not get a perfect score. If he doesn't, I'm pretty confident that with a series of pie charts and bar graphs, he'll be to convince us that his test was actually better than perfect and that the whole 100 percent idea is actually throwing off his Bell curve.

3. Most on the line. Former Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla doesn't have to prove he's as smart as Urschel, but his maturity will definitely be tested in Indianapolis. Because of poor choices off the field, no one has more riding on their combine performance than Lyerla. If his conditioning is right, Lyerla will post first-round caliber results in the athletic testing. It will be the drug and psychological testing, as well as the interviews, however, that will determine when - or if - a team gambles on his immense upside.

2. Focus on Sam shifts back to field. Michael Sam's interview session with the media will generate more buzz than any player workout at the combine. Unfortunately, that includes Sam's work out, which, frankly, I don't expect to be that impressive. The 6-1 5/8, 260-pounder struggled at outside linebacker at the Senior Bowl, showing limited flexibility and agility. He'll be working out with defensive linemen at the combine, but I expect that his results in the 40, three cone drill and short shuttle are likely to place him very much in the middle-of-the-pack among this group.

1. How brittle is Manziel's chip? While he has already announced that he won't be participating in any athletic testing until his personal pro day March 27, Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel remains the "big" story of the 2014 draft, and therefore by extension the combine.

Just how big remains to be seen.

Manziel was officially listed at 6-1, 210 pounds by the Aggies and what he actually measures in at will be the first of many important tests he'll face in Indianapolis. Another will be what kind of composure he'll show when facing critics who question his assertion that if the Houston Texans select anyone other than him at No. 1, it will be "the worst decision they've ever made."

Electing not to compete on the field at the combine could prove one of the worst decisions Manziel has ever made.

While no one questions Manziel's confidence or improvisational skill, there are plenty of concerns about his accuracy, including when standing still in the pocket - a trait certain to be tested in the combine's drills but not necessarily as much so during Manziel's choreographed session a month and a half from now.

Should Bridgewater, Central Florida's Blake Bortles or Fresno State's Derek Carr take advantage of Manziel's absence with a spectacular throwing session in Indianapolis, they could be the quarterback vaulting up draft boards.

If that were to occur, it won't matter much if the "chip" on Manziel's shoulder was a Frito, Dorito or Tostito. Hate to Ruffles anyone feathers, but rather than Lays down, why not show some Pringles and compete?
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These are actually pretty good. If the player is stupid enough to answer these wrong, it definitely wouldn't bode well.

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2. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
Question: Do you want to be a star or a champion?

10. Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
Question: Do you have any concerns about taking punishment at your current size?
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PLEASANTLY SURPRISED DT INVITEE: Mike Pennel, Colorado State Pueblo

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32 players were drafted last yr who weren't at Combine

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Greg Robinson's arm length- 35 inches.

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Patriots Belichick is now breaking down combine drills. He seems to value the three-cone.

Howie Roseman of the Eagles said more college teams running a three-man front helps find pass rush linebackers now.

49ers Jim Harbaugh on Manziel, "Impressed. Competitive. winner." Traits will translate well to NFL. (Yes, wearing those khakis.) Asked to name his favorite Combine interview ever Jim Harbaugh says ...he "loved Cam Newton." (Two odd ducks, anyone else in that room probably thought the were speaking a different language)

Lions Jim Caldwell up -- personal note, always impresses the heck out of me. “A lot of people want to talk about things that aren’t important, like is he elite…" on Stafford. "Whether or not he's elite doesn't matter. We want a championship QB."

Falcons Mike Smith classifies Dee Ford and Greg Robinson as "very good players," -- Wait, wut??? Stating the obvious.

Bears Marc Trestman -- "going to be a defensive oriented draft." No surprise.

Steelers GM Kevin Colbert: "I've been doing this 30 some years and this is the deepest draft I've seen." Also said least mature group of players, will have to do more player development.

Titans Ken Whisenhunt says he does not know what the Titans biggest needs are just yet. Needs to spend time with players on the field. (Wrong answer). Avoids being drawn into Browns clusterfart.
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2014 NFL Combine Preview: Potential Patriots at Each Position -- works for me

Josh Norris: NFL Combine Preview -- good stuff in here

Grantland -- Welcome to the NFL’s SATs


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