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Old 01-27-2014   #41
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A nice write up on Mosley:

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C.J. Mosley stands at 6-foot-2 and 232 pounds. There isn't a linebacker in the college football who has displayed the type of high football IQ and instincts Mosley has on the field. He displays a great of ability to read the QBs eyes in pass coverage and hit his keys. He has a great ability to recognize route and understands down and distance situations incredibly well. In the run game Mosley uses his football IQ to diagnose the plays quickly and keep himself clean from blockers. He is incredibly disciplined in his reads and this could only be the result of excellent preparation and film study throughout the week.
He is definitely one I would be interested in if we traded down and others we considered were off the board. He's even good in coverage which would make it possible where he would be on the field more unlike all our other inside linebackers not named Brian Cushing. Gives us more diversity and he or Cush could slide outside when/if we use a 4-3 in this new hybrid approach. Depends on who stays and goes in the coming months (obviously).

Plus it would be nice to have insurance in case (knock on wood) Cushing did go down since when he does this team has looked inept on defense time and time again.
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Unfortunately, I think Antonio Richardson goes in the top 25 and James will go in the late 2nd (I have him as my #64 prospect right now). They are both severely underrated right now. I take Richardson at #33 no question if he is still there somehow. Franchise LT potential. James will be a very solid RT. If he's there at 3.1 I take him (unless the position has already been addressed by then).

Not really a fan of Cyril. Has potential but I hope he goes elsewhere.
Do you think A. Richardson could play RT for now eliminating need for James? I'm not sure & we cannot afford to stockpile players this year. I think James is solid & if Q is as good as I think, that wraps up the OL. Brennan Williams & a healthy Newton can spar over back up roles. I think Derek will be allowed at his rate of pay to at least get thru TC.
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What are the thoughts on Trevardo Williams? Many liked him when drafted and he is a speedster.
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What are the thoughts on Trevardo Williams? Many liked him when drafted and he is a speedster.
Be interesting to see if Vrabel can get something out of him.
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What are the thoughts on Trevardo Williams? Many liked him when drafted and he is a speedster.
Has a future as a situational pass rusher. I don't think he has the ability to be a full time player, he's not agile enough to play in coverage and he's not strong enough to play against the run. One trick pony. But that one trick is a pretty important one.
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Do you think A. Richardson could play RT for now eliminating need for James? I'm not sure & we cannot afford to stockpile players this year. I think James is solid & if Q is as good as I think, that wraps up the OL. Brennan Williams & a healthy Newton can spar over back up roles. I think Derek will be allowed at his rate of pay to at least get thru TC.
Yes I think he could.

LT - Brown, Williams
LG - Quessenberry, Jones
C - Myers, Jones
RG - Brooks, Jones
RT - Richardson, Newton

That looks like a definite upgrade over last year.
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Has a future as a situational pass rusher. I don't think he has the ability to be a full time player, he's not agile enough to play in coverage and he's not strong enough to play against the run. One trick pony. But that one trick is a pretty important one.
I would like to see Tre alternate with Reed.
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Yes I think he could.

LT - Brown, Williams
LG - Quessenberry, Jones
C - Myers, Jones
RG - Brooks, Jones
RT - Richardson, Newton

That looks like a definite upgrade over last year.
that is putting a lot of trust in Q a player we saw little of. If he isn't steak and potatoes we remain in same place as last season.
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that is putting a lot of trust in Q a player we saw little of. If he isn't steak and potatoes we remain in same place as last season.
I have a lot of faith in Quess. He was my OL sleeper in the draft last year. Was ecstatic when we landed him. If he is fully recovered from his injury then I expect him to win the starting job easily.
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that is putting a lot of trust in Q a player we saw little of. If he isn't steak and potatoes we remain in same place as last season.
Agreed. I have faith that he can beat out Jones, who I think is a natural C playing out of position at OG.

Quessenberry/Jones may not match Wade Smith's production in year one but moving forward I think it's a better option.

And I think Richardson is better on his first day of practice than Newton is ever capable of being.
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Agreed. I have faith that he can beat out Jones, who I think is a natural C playing out of position at OG.

Quessenberry/Jones may not match Wade Smith's production in year one but moving forward I think it's a better option.

And I think Richardson is better on his first day of practice than Newton is ever capable of being.
Thanks for response from you and WF. I also like Q from start but we had better be correct. If Richardson can play RT I could eliminate a 2nd pick from draft as I had Cyril #33 and James in 4th.

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Also there will be a good handful of free agent guards if we want to plug one in there. No need to spend multiple high picks to solidify the line. Grab your BPA @ 1, then hopefully RT or TE @ 33.

As far as Mosley goes, I cant see a scenario where we trade down in his range. But who knows.
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Yes I think he could.

LT - Brown, Williams
LG - Quessenberry, Jones
C - Myers, Jones
RG - Brooks, Jones
RT - Richardson, Newton

That looks like a definite upgrade over last year.
I think Brennan Williams can definitely be this teams starting RT. I also believe in Q. I also believe Wade Smith signs a team friendly deal as he'll be 33 next year and the Texans are the only team that took a chance on him as an NFL starter besides the Fins who drafted and released him.

He also has a nice house in Houston (Mizzou City) that I doubt he wants to sell to get a 1 or 2 year deal elsewhere. He can provide solid depth and provide the time needed for other guards to rise up and take what we drafted them to do.
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I think Brennan Williams can definitely be this teams starting RT. I also believe in Q. I also believe Wade Smith signs a team friendly deal as he'll be 33 next year and the Texans are the only team that took a chance on him as an NFL starter besides the Fins who drafted and released him.

He also has a nice house in Houston (Mizzou City) that I doubt he wants to sell to get a 1 or 2 year deal elsewhere. He can provide solid depth and provide the time needed for other guards to rise up and take what we drafted them to do.
I really like Williams and mocked him but need to be convinced he will be healthy, if yes then I take RT off my list of concerns. Wade Smith is not and has not been healthy for 2 seasons; he is gone. I think Q will start.
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bumped thread to see if any comments after S.W. and the MVP LB?
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bumped thread to see if any comments after S.W. and the MVP LB?
I am very tempted to say he would benefit the team more than any other non-QB. Was shocked to see a mock yesterday in which he fell to 17.
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I am very tempted to say he would benefit the team more than any other non-QB. Was shocked to see a mock yesterday in which he fell to 17.
If he somehow fell that far I think I'd be willing to try and trade up...
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my only concern is that he doesn't shed blocks every well. and in Roc's system the linebackers are the main penetrators of the o-line to get to the QB. Can he do that consistently against top level NFL talent? can he add weight and strength without losing speed? does he fit in our system? These are the questions i would be asking and trying to find answers for

P.s. i would have zero complains if we drafted him in the top 10 and could even make a case for taking him number 1
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Only thing of interest to me was CJ Mosley outran Lache Seastrunk in an obstacle course type drill.
Which considering the below adds some "wow" to the above.

Baylor RB Lache Seastrunk: I know I can run faster than 4.3
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