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Old 02-13-2014   #41
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Is Bortles throwing? I know Manziel isn't, Is Bridgewater throwing? Any over under guesses on 40 times for these guys?

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Manziel 4.5 over
Bridgewater 4.6 over
Bortles 4.8

Height

Manziel 6 0 1/2 under
Bridgewater 6 2 1/4
Bortles 6 4 1/2
My 2 cents .
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Bridgewater throwing? Any over under guesses on 40 times for these guys?
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Manziel 4.5 - Push (4.5 exactly, maybe over 4.51-4.54)
Bridgewater 4.6 - ^
Bortles 4.8 - over

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Manziel 6 0 1/2 - Under (6'0 1/8")
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Is Bortles throwing? I know Manziel isn't, Is Bridgewater throwing? Any over under guesses on 40 times for these guys?
Over/Under on 40 times

Manziel 4.5 over
Bridgewater 4.6 over
Bortles 4.8 over
Clowney 4.5 under

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Manziel 6 0 1/2 under
Bridgewater 6 2 1/4 under 6'1"/195
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Over/Under on 40 times

Manziel 4.5 over
Bridgewater 4.6 over
Bortles 4.8 over
Clowney 4.5 under

Height

Manziel 6 0 1/2 under
Bridgewater 6 2 1/4 under 6'1"/195
Bortles 6 4 1/2 over
Over on all the 40 times, under on all the heights.

Playoffs, do you really think Clowney runs in the 4.4s?
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Over on all the 40 times, under on all the heights.

Playoffs, do you really think Clowney runs in the 4.4s?
And what is with everyone thinking Bortles is taller than advertised? That almost never happens.
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Over/Under on 40 times

Manziel 4.5 (4.50-4.59) Push
Bridgewater 4.6 (4.60-4.69) Over
Bortles 4.8 (4.80-4.89) Over
Clowney 4.5 (4.50-4.59) Push

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Manziel 6 0 1/2 under
Bridgewater 6 2 1/4 under
Bortles 6 4 1/2 push
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I would like to put forth the theory that LordBills is either a secret Longhorn or a secret Tide fan intentionally supporting Manziel in an effort to turn everyone else against him and Aggies in general

Also, offseason sucks. Life's a drag without football.
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Playoffs, do you really think Clowney runs in the 4.4s?
He said he ran a 4.46 in the summer, that 4.4 is his goal. Would be amazing at 272, IMO.

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And what is with everyone thinking Bortles is taller than advertised? That almost never happens.
Read a couple people who stood next to him felt he was more 6'5". We'll see. Arm strength is his concern for me, physically.
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Default Re: NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis February 19-24, 2014

Manziel 4.5 (under)
Bridgewater 4.6 (over)
Bortles 4.8 (under)
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He said he ran a 4.46 in the summer, that 4.4 is his goal. Would be amazing at 272, IMO.

Read a couple people who stood next to him felt he was more 6'5". We'll see. Arm strength is his concern for me, physically.
My main concern are his feet. That really set-back Mario, plantar-fasciitis, sprained big toe & other foot disorders. If Clowney's wheels are good (do Texans have same medical team or have they learned how to evaluate) he should bring serious trade offers, if not take BPA.
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My main concern are his feet. That really set-back Mario, plantar-fasciitis, sprained big toe & other foot disorders. If Clowney's wheels are good (do Texans have same medical team or have they learned how to evaluate) he should bring serious trade offers, if not take BPA.
You aren't saying that you think Clowney will attract trade offers from other teams to the Texans' for their 1.1 just because he checks out medically are you ?
And I would look for Clowney to run in the 4.60 - 4.70 range.
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He said he ran a 4.46 in the summer, that 4.4 is his goal. Would be amazing at 272, IMO.

Read a couple people who stood next to him felt he was more 6'5". We'll see. Arm strength is his concern for me, physically.
Some people forget the added height from cleats or shoes when estimating height up close. I know my son at 6'7" is over 7' after adding his gear (both boots and helmet add significantly to final height.

And with myself at 6'2", I thought Hakeem was much shorter than the 7' reported when I met him. It actually shocked me. I just didn't have to look up that much.

But the Combine should answer the question. It's like waiting for the water to boil.
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He said he ran a 4.46 in the summer, that 4.4 is his goal. Would be amazing at 272, IMO.
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And what is with everyone thinking Bortles is taller than advertised? That almost never happens.
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I'm still shocked at how many people think Manziel will run a sub-4.5 at the combine. Only 5 QB's have ever done it (Reggie McNeal, Robert Griffin, Marcus Vick, Denard Robinson, & Brad Smith) and Griffin is the only one who didn't change positions at the next level.
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I'm still shocked at how many people think Manziel will run a sub-4.5 at the combine. Only 5 QB's have ever done it (Reggie McNeal, Robert Griffin, Marcus Vick, Denard Robinson, & Brad Smith) and Griffin is the only one who didn't change positions at the next level.
Yep, not happening.
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I'm still shocked at how many people think Manziel will run a sub-4.5 at the combine. Only 5 QB's have ever done it (Reggie McNeal, Robert Griffin, Marcus Vick, Denard Robinson, & Brad Smith) and Griffin is the only one who didn't change positions at the next level.
I'm shocked at the number of people who find it shocking. He ran away from SEC defenders for two years, he's got some wheels.

I won't be shocked with a 4.45, nor will I be shocked with a 4.60. I'm not expecting outside of that range.
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Some people forget the added height from cleats or shoes when estimating height up close. I know my son at 6'7" is over 7' after adding his gear (both boots and helmet add significantly to final height.

And with myself at 6'2", I thought Hakeem was much shorter than the 7' reported when I met him. It actually shocked me. I just didn't have to look up that much.

But the Combine should answer the question. It's like waiting for the water to boil.

Hakeem was actually 6 10 3/4
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I'm shocked at the number of people who find it shocking. He ran away from SEC defenders for two years, he's got some wheels.

I won't be shocked with a 4.45, nor will I be shocked with a 4.60. I'm not expecting outside of that range.
a 4.45 and 4.6 are exceptional times for an NFL QB.

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And what is with everyone thinking Bortles is taller than advertised? That almost never happens.
He was listed as 6'4" on team bio, Bortles says he is 6'5" and change. Johnny Manziel says he is 6'0". People who have met Johnny and stood next to him say he is 5'10. In a couple of weeks those questions are no longer.
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You aren't saying that you think Clowney will attract trade offers from other teams to the Texans' for their 1.1 just because he checks out medically are you ?
And I would look for Clowney to run in the 4.60 - 4.70 range.
If Clowney checks out as medically sound that would erase a lot of his detractors (me for one) maybe not all but more than likely a sound business that does through research into a major investments.
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