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Old 01-15-2014   #1
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Daniel Jeremiah Big Board/Top 50
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1	Clowney, Jadeveon	DE	South Carolina
2	Watkins, Sammy	WR	Clemson	
3	Robinson, Greg	OT	Auburn	
4	Barr, Anthony	OLB	UCLA	
5	Matthews, Jake	OT	Texas A&M	
6	Jernigan, Timmy	DT	Florida St.	
7	Manziel, Johnny	QB	Texas A&M
8	Mack, Khalil	OLB	Buffalo		
9	Mosley, C.J.	OLB	Alabama	
10	Bridgewater, Teddy	QB	Louisville	
11	Ebron, Eric	TE	North Carolina	
12	Lewan, Taylor	OT	Michigan
13	Evans, Mike	WR	Texas A&M
14	Pryor, Calvin	FS	Louisville
15	Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha	FS	Alabama	
16	Benjamin, Kelvin	WR	Florida St.	
17	Nix III, Louis	DT	Notre Dame	
18	Gilbert, Justin	CB	Oklahoma St.	
19	Dennard, Darqueze	CB	Michigan St.	
20	Lee, Marqise	WR	USC
21	Hyde, Carlos	RB	Ohio St.	
22	Bortles, Blake	QB	Central Florida
23	Hageman, Ra'Shede	DT	Minnesota	
24	Seferian-Jenkins, Austin	TE	Washington	
25	Martin, Zack	OT	Notre Dame
26	Amaro, Jace	TE	Texas Tech	
27	Kouandjio, Cyrus	OT	Alabama	
28	Tuitt, Stephon	DE	Notre Dame	
29	Ealy, Kony	DE	Missouri	
30	Donald, Aaron	DT	Pittsburgh	
31	Shazier, Ryan	OLB	Ohio St.	
32	Easley, Dominique	DT	Florida	Senior	
33	Landry, Jarvis	WR	LSU	
34	Moses, Morgan	OT	Virginia
35	Lawrence, Demarcus	DE	Boise St.	
36	Richardson, Paul	WR	Colorado	
37	Joyner, Lamarcus	CB	Florida St.	
38	Verrett, Jason	CB	TCU	
39	Ford, Dee	DE	Auburn
40	Adams, Davante	WR	Fresno St.	
41	Beckham, Odell	WR	LSU	
42	McCarron, AJ	QB	Alabama
43	Cooks, Brandin	WR	Oregon St.	
44	Carr, Derek	QB	Fresno St.	
45	Matthews, Jordan	WR	Vanderbilt
46	Colvin, Aaron	CB	Oklahoma	
47	Mason, Tre	RB	Auburn	
48	Murphy, Trent	OLB	Stanford	
49	Jones, Daquan	DT	Penn St.	
50	Roby, Bradley	CB	Ohio St.
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Bucky's Top 5 2014 NFL Draft prospects by position
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Very interesting stuff. I really like Pryor, but I think they've got him about 15-20 positions too high. Unless he shows me things that I don't believe he can do at the combine, I don't see him as a top 20 guy, despite team needs.

Bucky has a very interesting WR top 5.

What do you think, Playoffs and anyone else, about Sammy Watkins as #2 despite posting that thing from Peshek in another thread you posted breaking down the "top 4" WRs.
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1. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
Manziel (6-0, 205 pounds) is a unique athlete who produced 10,000 yards of offense in two seasons with the Aggies. He has great vision at quarterback.

2. Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina

3. Anthony Barr, LB, UCLA

4. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M

5. Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
In two seasons, Bridgewater (6-foot-2 1/2, 207 pounds) had 58 TD passes and only 12 interceptions and a completion percentage of nearly 70 percent. His thin upper body is a concern.

6. Blake Bortles, QB, UCF
Bortles (6-foot-3 1/2, 225 pounds) is the flavor of the month right now. He has emerged after receiving only two offers out of high school, including one from Purdue, which recruited him as a tight end. In two years he had 50 TD passes to 16 interceptions.

7. Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson

8. Khalil Mack, LB, Buffalo

9. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan

10. Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn

11. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
Hageman (6-foot-5, 315 pounds) is a hard player to grade. He didn't play many plays because the Gophers ran him in and out, and he lined up at both defensive tackle and defensive end. He might be too tall to be a DT in the NFL, but is good enough to convert to end. He's very athletic and was the top-rated tight end out of high school.

12. C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama

13. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama

14. Marqise Lee, WR, USC

15. Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama

16. Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina

17. Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State

18. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State

19. Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State

20. Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M

21. Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State

22. Stephon Tuitt, DT, Notre Dame
Tuitt (6-foot-5, 320 pounds) had 19.5 sacks in the past two years and one interception vs. Michigan this season. He plays the run well and is athletic, but is he tough?

23. Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame
Nix (6-foot-2 1/2, 325 pounds) missed most of the season with an injury after playing well in 2012. He looks the part of a defensive tackle, with good size, quickness and lateral movement.

24. Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
Ealy (6-foot-4, 277 pounds) played very well in the Cotton Bowl vs. Oklahoma State, recording two sacks, giving him 9.5 for the season. He has good quickness. He is a two-year starter but had one good year.

25. Zach Martin, OT, Notre Dame

26. Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU

27. Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
Jernigan (6-foot-1 1/2 300 pounds) played as a true freshman in 2011 and started only two games in 2012. His quickness allows him to be a very disruptive player.

28. Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida

29. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
Seferian-Jenkins (6-foot-5, 265 pounds) is a big target but is a better receiver than a blocker. He won the Mackey Award this season as the nation's top tight end and had 105 catches and 15 touchdowns over the past two years.

30. Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech

31. Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida

32. Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State

33. Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State

34. Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State

35. Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

36. Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona

37. Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma

38. Xavier Su'a-Filo, OT, UCLA

39. Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor

40. Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State

41. Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
Donald (6-0, 285 pounds) is a lot like Bills DT Kyle Williams. He has very long arms and has had great production in college, with 16 1/2 sacks over two years.

42. Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
Roby (5-foot-10 1/2, 192 pounds) was beaten a lot in coverage this year and didn't play up to his potential. He could help himself by working out at the Combine.

43. Tre Mason, RB, Auburn

44. Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State

45. Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt

46. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU

47. Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU
Beckham (5-foot-11, 187 pound) won the Paul Hornung Award as the nation's most versatile player. He's a good pass catcher who also is skilled as a return man.

48. Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee

49. AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama
I think McCarron (6-foot-3, 215 pounds) will be better than people think. He has talent and is a very smart quarterback. He won 36 games as a starter at Alabama, including two national titles (three overall).

50. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
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Four players debut, many others move in updated ratings
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Now that I've had an opportunity to study more players -- both on tape and at the all-star games) -- I've made a few adjustments to my Top 50 prospects list. There are four new additions and several players have been moved up or down on the list.

One new addition is Wisconsin linebacker Chris Borland. After seeing him up close at the Senior Bowl, I came away very impressed by his quickness and instincts. He makes his debut at number 43.

My top three quarterbacks remained in the same order: Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater and Blake Bortles. The other two signal-callers that remained on my list were Derek Carr (44) and AJ McCarron (49). One wide receiver dropped out of my Top 50 (Jordan Matthews) but nine others remain.
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1	Clowney, JdeveonDE	South Carolina
2	Watkins, Sammy	WR	Clemson
3	Robinson, Greg	OT	Auburn
4	Barr, Anthony	OLB	UCLA
5	Mack, Khalil	OLB	Buffalo
6	Jernigan, Timmy	DT	Florida St.
7	Manziel, Johnny	QB	Texas A&M
8	Matthews, Jake	OT	Texas A&M
9	Mosley, C.J.	OLB	Alabama
10	Bridgewater,TeddyQB	Louisville
11	Ebron, Eric	TE	North Carolina
12	Lewan, Taylor	OT	Michigan
13	Gilbert, Justin	CB	Oklahoma St.
14	Evans, Mike	WR	Texas A&M
15	Pryor, Calvin	FS	Louisville
16	Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha	FS	Alabama
17	Benjamin, KelvinWR	Florida St.
18	Bortles, Blake	QB	Central Florida
19	Dennard, DarquezeCB	Michigan St.
20	Nix III, Louis	DT	Notre Dame
21	Lee, Marqise	WR	USC
22	Hyde, Carlos	RB	Ohio St.
23	Hageman, Ra'ShedeDT	Minnesota
24	Martin, Zack	OT	Notre Dame
25	Amaro, Jace	TE	Texas Tech
26	Ealy, Kony	DE	Missouri
27	Moses, Morgan	OT	Virginia
28	Kouandjio, CyrusOT	Alabama
29	Tuitt, Stephon	DE	Notre Dame
30	Donald, Aaron	DT	Pittsburgh
31	Landry, Jarvis	WR	LSU	Junior
32	Cooks, Brandin	WR	Oregon St.
33	Easley, DominiqueDT	Florida
34	Seferian-JenkinsTE	Washington
35	Shazier, Ryan	OLB	Ohio St.
36	Lawrence,DemarcusDE	Boise St.
37	Roby, Bradley	CB	Ohio St.
38	Adams, Davante	WR	Fresno St.
39	Ford, Dee	DE	Auburn
40	Beckham, Odell	WR	LSU
41	Richardson, PaulWR	Colorado
42	Breeland, BashaudCB	Clemson	
43	Borland, Chris	ILB	Wisconsin
44	Carr, Derek	QB	Fresno St.
45	Joyner, LamarcusCB	Florida St.
46	Niklas, Troy	TE	Notre Dame	
47	Verrett, Jason	CB	TCU
48	Mason, Tre	RB	Auburn
49	McCarron, AJ	QB	Alabama
50	James, Ja'Wuan	OT	Tennessee

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lol, now he's starting to do a better job of looking like every other big board out there.

I'm glad those are "his" adjustments.

I like Calvin Pryor, but he's starting to remind me a little of DJ Hayden. Good player starting to be projected too high. I do like that he can play both safety positions though, but still too high IMO.
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Daniel Jermiah has clearly demonstrated why he has been fired as an NFL scout 3 different times in 6 years. And why he is now a TV journalist and no longer a NFL scout.
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Daniel Jermiah has clearly demonstrated why he has been fired as an NFL scout 3 different times in 6 years. And why he is now a TV journalist and no longer a NFL scout.
Let's see your big board since you think you are smarter than him.
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Let's see your big board since you think you are smarter than him.
Texian's top 25 big board probably looks like this:

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Now THAT'S funny!
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I can see that it doesn't take much to amuse you.
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Let's see your big board since you think you are smarter than him.
You can choose to accept his evaluations or not. Do so at your own risk. You've been warned.
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Not trying to single Texian out, but I think people here are too stringent on what scouts they do or do not give merit to...probably based on how that particular scouts views align with their own.

Jeremiah spent 8 seasons as NFL scout for 3 different teams; Browns, Ravens and most recently the Eagles and was the starting QB for Appalachian State for 3 seasons. I can only find info that he was fired by one organization and that was the Browns, and we all know how well they handle their personnel.

Regardless, Jeremiah's resume is more prolific than everyone on this forums combined, I think dismissing his opinion completely is foolish. I will take the word of a guy who was fired from an NFL job over the the word of a guy who sells insurance any day of the week.

Besides, what does it really matter who we choose to "follow" it's not like it has any impact on who the Texans take or how they play on Sundays...
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I will take the word of a guy who was fired from an NFL job over the the word of a guy who sells insurance any day of the week.
Valid point and I hear you.

With that said, some 'scouts' frequently suck a lot more than others. This can be argued, but is hard to deny.

Random example: Matthew Berry, the LEAD fantasy football expert for ESPN, was a writer in Hollywood before coming over to ESPN AKA Sports Hollywood.

I don't think anyone should be written off without even listening, but I agree w/ Texian when he says take their info with a grain of salt. Even if your grain differs from his or theirs.
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Some guys are naturally contrarians, obviously someone will be wrong every year, some more than others, but sometimes they are right too.
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You can choose to accept his evaluations or not. Do so at your own risk. You've been warned.
So I should ignore a real scout but listen to some internet writer/ intern and rob rang? Gotcha!!!
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