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Old 02-02-2014   #121
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No brainer............Draft Jerry Ricecake.
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If I could hate 1 "analyst" more than Steven A Smith it has to be Skip. Not for his analysis of Manziel, but because I hate everything he says and he ONLY says things to say things and create buzz and controversy.
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Did he have a bad game against LSU and Missouri? Sure he did. The whole team played like crap. Against LSU Sumlin abandoned the run way to early. The OL was outplayed and the WR’s got pushed around throwing timing routes off. Yet Manziel was still able to put up 34 and 28 points. And after a couple of weeks of rest destroyed Duke.
Manziels thumb was reported to be badly dislocated yet he never once used that as an excuse. He made several bad off field decisions his first year. Was clean as a whistle last year.

He has shown toughness, maturity and the ability to lead. He is still behind Bridgwater and Clowney on my short list for 1.1. If we draft him I will be very happy.
No... that would be the other teams. LSU 34 - A&M 10 and Mizzou 28 - A&M 21. He was terrible in the LSU game, it was clearly the worst game of his career. He was OK in the Mizzou game, but missed several opportunities to do anything towards the end of the game. I think they had 3 possessions in the 4th quarter that went nowhere.
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Default Re: What should the Texans do with their number one pick?

After that poor game Manning put up yesterday, would anyone have a problem if he were our starting QB next year?

Why, or why not?

I wouldn't have a problem with it, because he'll still be one of the top 5 QBs in the league. Even though he'll probably have a bad game or two next season. He's going to throw a few INTs, he's going to make some stupid throws, miss some reads... lose some games.

But he'll have more, way more positive plays than negative.
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After that poor game Manning put up yesterday, would anyone have a problem if he were our starting QB next year?

Why, or why not?

I wouldn't have a problem with it, because he'll still be one of the top 5 QBs in the league. Even though he'll probably have a bad game or two next season. He's going to throw a few INTs, he's going to make some stupid throws, miss some reads... lose some games.

But he'll have more, way more positive plays than negative.
No, I wouldn't have a problem with Manning coming here next year, but I would still consider taking a QB #1. Manning only has a year or two remaining in his career so a future QB would still be a must this off-season.
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No, I wouldn't have a problem with Manning coming here next year, but I would still consider taking a QB #1. Manning only has a year or two remaining in his career so a future QB would still be a must this off-season.
I'm with you... but the point of that post, was to contrast the post above mine (I guess I should have quoted it)... just because a guy has a bad game doesn't mean he's not worth a crap, or won't be successful in the NFL.
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Default Re: What should the Texans do with their number one pick?

No one has a clue what we'll be doing with the 1st overall pick.

I've heard different draft "experts" assuredly report that we will be drafting Manziel... Bortles... Bridgewater... Clowney.

So far -- and it's early -- Texans are playing their hand perfectly to maintain the possibility of a trade.

It'll be interesting to see if, as the process moves forward, if they target a few teams/marks by leaking interest in a particular player. I think Clowney will blow up the Combine and will bring teams offers. But it could be a QB.

Fun watching the drama play out.
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My view is this: O'Brien & Co. must solve the QB problem and it's 100% certainty the new regime will bring in their new QB('s) through FA and/or draft. Typically they draft their guy early in the first year.

So going into this draft, with 1:1, they're #1 focus has to be "is there a franchise QB for THIS team in this draft and who is he?" I don't care if Clowney is the second coming of Kearse, if Bridgewater/Bortles/Manziel is determined to be a QB they feel very confident will take over this team and get us to multiple AFC Championships and Super Bowls, they MUST take him at 1:1 and never question that decision. You DO NOT get fancy and trade down thinking you might could still get him.

Second, us fans may see these top 3 QBs all ranked fairly similarly. But trust me, O'Brien does not. He may not like any of them, he may like 2, he may LOVE 1. And if there is that 1, we have to take him whoever he is.

If it were up to me, and we determined none of the top 3 QBs would fit my needs as a QB and would not be the franchise guy- then I don't select them period and I look at Taking the risk on Clowney or trading down. I would look at Clowney or Mack in that case or Barr and see "who would be the best defender for MY defense."

For me it's Bridgewater right now still. I think Bortles has a legitimate chance but I want to be careful because what gets me more excited about him is his prototypical size. That's very dangerous to push him ahead because of size alone. I think he'd need to develop behind a veteran, but if that's what OB wants I'm on board. I prefer Bridgewater, I just feel like he's pro ready day 1 and has the intelligence to succeed. Granted I'm not saying Bortles/Manziel do not... I just feel much better about Teddy. I love Manziel but do not want us taking him. I just don't have a good gut feeling at all about his long term success in this league.

Clowney is tempting but I worry about his motor and drive/passion. He says he wants to be #1 pick does not impress me. If he were to say I wanna be #1 defender in league, I want to play next to Watt, I want to dominate the NfL... I would feel better. He's saying he's going to put up insane numbers at the combine and he wants to be the first pick. Woopty freaking Doo. BUT, if he passes the interviews and the coaches feel really really good about him AND they do not love any QBs, I would be good with Clowney. I do worry about him and Watt from a salary cap point in a few years. Watts gonna get paid insanely. Then just a few short years later Clowney will want to get paid (assuming he pans out) and we won't be able to afford both. That gives us 4 years maybe 5 with both of them.... But who's our QB? Draft one next year? Free Agent pans out? Mid rounder from this year works?? If it's not till next year or 2 that limits our Super Bowl chances with out 1:1 pick Clowney to like 3 years till he's gone. Maybe I'm just thinking too much about that.

At the end of the day I think it will be Bridgewater or Bortles at 1:1, O'Brien will love one of them. My bet is Bridgewater wows them in interviews and they select him and I'll be pleased.

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Clowney is tempting but I worry about his motor and drive/passion. He says he wants to be #1 pick does not impress me. If he were to say I wanna be #1 defender in league, I want to play next to Watt, I want to dominate the NfL... I would feel better. He's saying he's going to put up insane numbers at the combine and he wants to be the first pick. Woopty freaking Doo. BUT, if he passes the interviews and the coaches feel really really good about him AND they do not love any QBs, I would be good with Clowney. I do worry about him and Watt from a salary cap point in a few years. Watts gonna get paid insanely. Then just a few short years later Clowney will want to get paid (assuming he pans out) and we won't be able to afford both. That gives us 4 years maybe 5 with both of them.... But who's our QB? Draft one next year? Free Agent pans out? Mid rounder from this year works?? If it's not till next year or 2 that limits our Super Bowl chances with out 1:1 pick Clowney to like 3 years till he's gone. Maybe I'm just thinking too much about that.
I don't worry about his motor. Not one bit. With guys like Cushing & Watt... I don't think he could take a play off without getting his butt whupped.

I question how/where we will use him. If we take him, I'm going to trust that OB & Crennel & Kollar & Vrabel have a plan.
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Bad things can happen when a team considers need disproportionately to what's available. The 2011 NFL draft provides a good case study on the matter. That season those who waited fared better than those who didn't, showing that if you're not sure about the quarterbacks available to you, it's better not to force it.

Back then the Panthers, Bengals, Cardinals, 49ers, Titans, Vikings, Redskins and Jaguars all had clear quarterback needs. The Panthers had the top pick and an infatuation with Cam Newton that worked out to the benefit of both parties.

Things got murkier after that. Newton and Blaine Gabbert were widely talked about as the top two quarterbacks in that draft. The Panthers did quite a bit of work on Gabbert back then, too, but nothing they saw drew them away from Newton. The rest of the quarterbacking field was a group that came with talent and many questions.

The Cardinals traded for Kevin Kolb later that offseason, a gamble that didn't work so well and ultimately contributed to the firing of coach Ken Whisenhunt.

The other teams can be divided into those who waited and those who...
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What makes him think Tennessee, Jacksonville, & Minnesota weren't "sure" & Cincinnatti and SF were?

Trust me, it's very possible to be 100% sure, & completely wrong at the same time.

I don't see where "waiting" = "sure"
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What makes him think Tennessee, Jacksonville, & Minnesota weren't "sure" & Cincinnatti and SF were?

Trust me, it's very possible to be 100% sure, & completely wrong at the same time.

I don't see where "waiting" = "sure"
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Personally I'd take Bridgewater. I am 100% sold on this guy. I have watched him since his sophmore year and he has progressed every year. He has Aaron Rodgers type potential. Their games are very similar. Their arm strength and accuracy are similar. They can both move around in the pocket to buy time and are accurate going across the body. Their body types aren't that dissimilar coming out of college as I think Bridgewater will weigh in around 215-220 at the combine.
If I weren't going to take Bridgewater I would see about trading my second round pick to N.E. for Mallett and my #1 to Cleveland for #4 and #26 then I take Anthony Barr at 4 and at 26 I take either OT Taylor Lewing, LB CJ Mosley, or S Calvin Pryor. That gives you your young QB, a potentially dominant OLB, and either a bookend T to pair with LTD Brown, a run stuffing LB to put inside with Cushing, or a ballhawking FS to pair with Swearinger to solidify your safety position for a decade.
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Trade down for Watkins, Moseley or Mack. Instant playmakers, no time needed to develop.

I'm done with the soap opera QB class of 2014.
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I think this is a first .... I agree with both Skip Clueless and Stephen A Stupid .... Give me Manziel.
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According to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle, Louisville’s Teddy Bridgewater, Center Florida’s Blake Bortles and Texas A&M’s Johnny Manziel are all being “seriously considered” for the top pick in the draft.

While none of the three quarterbacks are thought to be the most talented player in the draft – that distinction is commonly thought to fall to South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney or Auburn tackle Greg Robinson – it is the most glaring need for the Texans at the game’s most pivotal position.

With a Pro Bowl defensive end in J.J. Watt and a Pro Bowl left tackle in Duane Brown already on their roster, it appears likely that quarterback will be the direction the Texans will go with their top selection in May.
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