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Do you think the fact that he was drafted by a baseball team automatically makes him a better athalete than Manziel?
Doesn't hurt the arguement .
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Dude....

Stop acting like Bama is the end all be all. LSU puts just as much talent in the NFL as bama does..why not pull up those 2 games from 2012 & 2013 where he was largely smothered & OK at best?

This isn't a race thing & noone's questioning his athletic ability..you're just overblowing how athletic he is when you compare him to the guys you did.
actually you are.

there's nothing athletically russell wilson can do on the football field that Manziel cant do.
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they are cut from the same cloth. They are playmakers who can hurt you with their arms and legs. You do know cut from the same cloth is a figure of speech not meant to be taken literally right?

And to say Manziel is not a better athlete than either of those guys is just downright inaccurate. Check the film and see the plays that he pulled off vs elite competition.
RGIII was a world-class hurdler from Quarter Mile U that won a Heisman and in his rookie season in the NFL had a 102+ QBR and rushed for over 800 yards.

Wilson was a two-sport star at NC State in football and baseball, graduated then transferred to Wisconsin where he set the FBS record on passing efficiency. He played minor league baseball, was the NFL ROY, and he has most recently won the Super Bowl.

By the way, both RGIII and Wilson graduated from their respective universities in three years.

So yeah, these two are both better and smarter athletes than Johnny Football.
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RGIII was a world-class hurdler from Quarter Mile U that won a Heisman and in his rookie season in the NFL had a 102+ QBR and rushed for over 800 yards.

Wilson was a two-sport star at NC State in football and baseball, graduated then transferred to Wisconsin where he set the FBS record on passing efficiency. He played minor league baseball, was the NFL ROY, and he has most recently won the Super Bowl.

By the way, both RGIII and Wilson graduated from their respective universities in three years.

So yeah, these two are both better and smarter athletes than Johnny Football.
So did Bridgewater .
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Manziel to the Cowboys?!

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/dallas-...0358--nfl.html
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Doesn't hurt the arguement .
Doesn't verify it either.
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How does getting drafted by a baseball team make you a great athalete? I would say Manziel is just as good or better an athalete than Wilson. The fact that Wilson got drafted by a bSeball team means nothing in this debate.
Only on the texanstalk messageboard does it mean nothing. Get back at me when you can hit a 80+ MPH curve...or a 90+ MPH fastball 2 out of 10 times...better yet, get back at me when 2 different teams think enough of your athleticism to draft you in the MLB draft twice as they did with Wilson...Doubt manziel was seeing that kind of interest as a baseball prospect in high school.

Sure a few of the athletic skills needed to excel in each sport are different, but athleticism manifests itself in many different skill sets..The ability to transfer that skill set in 1 sport to another sport is skill and another form of athleticism all its own...that's what made guys like Deion & Bo Jackson that much better athletically than their counterparts who only really could focus on that 1 sport. Wilson's not quite in that stratosphere athletically, but it's the ability to do that..which puts him well above JFF as an athlete in that realm.
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Only on the texanstalk messageboard does it mean nothing. Get back at me when you can hit a 80+ MPH curve...or a 90+ MPH fastball 2 out of 10 times...better yet, get back at me when 2 different teams think enough of your athleticism to draft you in the MLB draft twice as they did with Wilson...
Probably thinks Dave Winfield being drafted in the NBA, ABA, NFL and MLB doesn't count as athleticism either...
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Wilson was a two-sport star at NC State in football and baseball, graduated then transferred to Wisconsin where he set the FBS record on passing efficiency. He played minor league baseball, was the NFL ROY, and he has most recently won the Super Bowl.
How does any of this prove Wilson is a better athalete than Maziel?
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Probably thinks Dave Winfield being drafted in the NBA, ABA, NFL and MLB doesn't count as athleticism either...
It doesn't prove that he is a better athalete than Dwight Howard. Just because someone plays more than one sport doesn't automatically make them a better a athalete than someone who plays only one.
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How does any of this prove Wilson is a better athalete than Maziel?
Whales ain't fish .
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My Bevo-dar is going off...

You're throwing out meaningless stats. Other than the LSU game Manziel performed well in all of them. Watch tape instead of just saying "well this happened or that happened." I was there for every single game Manziel played in. I'll tell you that he wasn't the reason we lost.
No, I went to a DII school in Virginia, but nice try. Typical Aggie paranoia that a dissenting opinion must be coming from a Longhorn alum.
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That's an awesome verbal beatdown, especially in hindsight after Sherman's team wins a championship.

"I'm better at life than you"

You see so many respectable and great pro athletes that seem to despise Skip Bayless. It makes you wonder, why?

Truth is Bayless makes his living on controversial opinions. I think he pulls most of them out of his butt because controversy keeps him "relevant" as it pertains to being an entertainment figure.

However, the truth of the matter is those that cannot work for an actual professional sports team, write about them instead.

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So, if Bill O'Brien, according to you, has made some kind of statement questioning Manziel's work ethic, do you actually think he would pull something like that out of his ass? What purpose would that serve? And to whom?

If the head coach has doubts about his work ethic, then so I. I'll take his observation over some hack ESPN reporters any day of the week.
This is what I don't get.

Fine, use Bayless or Stephen Smith as a reference opinion, but let's not get stupid with it and act like they have the qualifications to be an assistance coach in the NFL, much less a head coach.

The story was pure hearsay to begin with. It was about Manziel and Bortles being the Texans top picks, but O'Brien is reportedly concerned about Manziel's potential lack of work ethic and intangibles.

But, the story starts with "According to trusted sources...", like that's the be all/end all of truth in media. Yeah, and according to trusted sources, Harbaugh was not consulted when he hired Kubiak. Riiiiiiiiiight

"According to trusted sources..." the moon landing is fake!

"According to trusted sources..." Elvis is still alive!

"According to trusted sources..." 09/11 was perpetuated by the U.S. government!

"According to trusted sources..." Vince Young was a Hall of Famer before he even got drafted!

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It doesn't prove that he is a better athalete than Dwight Howard. Just because someone plays more than one sport doesn't automatically make them a better a athalete than someone who plays only one.
Do you even know who Dave Winfield is?

He was voted the third best athlete of all time in any sport. Not just in the sport he chose to play professionally, baseball. Third best all time athlete in any sport.

So yes, he is a better athlete than Dwight Howard.
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Do you even know who Dave Winfield is?

He was voted the third best athlete of all time in any sport. Not just in the sport he chose to play professionally, baseball. Third best all time athlete in any sport.

So yes, he is a better athlete than Dwight Howard.
Still doesn't change the fact that playing more than one sport makes you a better athalete than someone who plays one sport.
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What's with repeatedly misspelling "athlete?" Some kind of joke?
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Still doesn't change the fact that playing more than one sport makes you a better athalete than someone who plays one sport.
Thanks for agreeing with me...
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