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Old 02-05-2014   #2021
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You always give the benefit of the doubt on talent.

TESTED TALENT.

Manziel has talent, potential, heart, and competitive desire in spades. We always complained about our QBs being lame and boring and not being able to make plays, well here is a QB who does that.

I trust this kid's talent and potential. I hope the texans and bill o brien keep an open mind and give this kid an honest look.
So, if Bill O'Brien, according to you, has made some kind of statement questioning Manziel's work ethic, do you actually think he would pull something like that out of his ass? What purpose would that serve? And to whom?

If the head coach has doubts about his work ethic, then so I. I'll take his observation over some hack ESPN reporters any day of the week.
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I think we will be fine with either of the top three they decide to go with, Manziel, Bortles or BRIDGEWATER. I prefer Bridgewater myself because I know he will be better from the three in the long run.
You don't know that. No one knows that. Bridgewater is more prepared to start right away. That doesn't mean he will be the best.
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you still havent answered my question and completely ducked my reply to your uppity mentality on sports shows.

what sports commentary show is better than ATH, PTI, and first take?

Sports talk live with kevin eschenfeld? foxsports1? danpatrick live?

Stop being a dishonest pretentious coward as if you're such a superior sports fan because you dont watch a sports show that millions of sports fans watch.
I DID answer your question, DF. I don't watch sports commentary. I do, however, watch pre-game shows, but no commentary shows filled with ignorant theoretical questions that act like a starting gun for two morons to begin arguing. Waste of time.

I guess I need to spell it out?

You: "what sports commentary show is better than ATH, PTI, and first take?"

Me: None. As in, pick the poison to kill you. They all suck.
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they are cut from the same cloth. They are playmakers who can hurt you with their arms and legs. You do know cut from the same cloth is a figure of speech not meant to be taken literally right?

And to say Manziel is not a better athlete than either of those guys is just downright inaccurate. Check the film and see the plays that he pulled off vs elite competition.
You're absolutely in La La land if you believe Manziel compares with any of those guys athletically.

Kaepernick & Wilson were both actaully drafted by pro baseball teams out of high school which speaks to just how athletic those guys are..

Griffin was an Olympic quality hurdler..ran in the US olympic trials as a high schooler..

& the guy he compares to the least (Cam Newton) is much bigger & stronger than Manziel will ever be....Oh, he was also able to lead his team to the NC game with his athleticism..... despite a crap defense...unlike Manziel.

Please just stop....Manziel's a good athlete but stop overplaying your hand.
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The only sports commentary that I actually enjoy is the NBA on TNT. I could watch Charles Barkley do the evening news every night.
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to pollute the air and discredit manziel so that he can be justified in taking blake freaking bortles or whoever he likes.

what evidence does obrien have that Manziel has poor work ethic?

you can say manziel is arrogant and parties too hard because there is evidence of that but you cant say he doesnt work hard without evidence because of his harmless off the field distractions that the media exaggerated.

Stephen A Smith is right in his take that this sounds a lot similar to stereotypical criticisms that black qbs get.
If O'Brien made the comment, which I question (it is just a report), then I would guarantee he has watched enough film on Manziel to make it. O'brien has over two years of film on Manziel as evidence.
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You don't know that. No one knows that. Bridgewater is more prepared to start right away. That doesn't mean he will be the best.

Sorry bro, I was being sarcastic to match Lord Bills love fest for Manziel. I should have made it more obvious adding that Bridgewater can throw 90 miles an hour on his knee, blindfolded and eating a bowl of soup.
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You're absolutely in La La land if you believe Manziel compares with any of those guys athletically.

Kaepernick & Wilson were both actaully drafted by pro baseball teams out of high school which speaks to just how athletic those guys are..

Griffin was an Olympic quality hurdler..ran in the US olympic trials as a high schooler..

& the guy he compares to the least (Cam Newton) is much bigger & stronger than Manziel will ever be.

Please just stop....Manziel's a good athlete but stop overplaying your hand.
How does getting drafted by a baseball team make you a great athalete? I would say Manziel is just as good or better an athalete than Wilson. The fact that Wilson got drafted by a bSeball team means nothing in this debate.
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Sorry bro, I was being sarcastic to match Lord Bills love fest for Manziel. I should have made it more obvious adding that Bridgewater can throw 90 miles an hour on his knee, blindfolded and eating a bowl of soup.
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How does getting drafted by a baseball team make you a great athalete? I would say Manziel is just as good or better an athalete than Wilson. The fact that Wilson got drafted by a bSeball team means nothing in this debate.
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Wow, that kid has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever.

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Range , speed , bat speed , hand eye , arm strength , depth perception , quick thinker .
Do you think the fact that he was drafted by a baseball team automatically makes him a better athalete than Manziel?
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SMDH.

Your answer was sportscenter, a show on the same network but is totally different type of show format as ATH, PTI, and first take.

The fact of the matter is you cant give an answer so you moved the goal posts and started slagging on people who watch sports commentary shows as if that made you a bad sports fan and horrible human being.

Stop frontin. You got called out on your pretentious uppity BS.

Fact of the matter is you couldnt come up with a better sports commentary show than PTI,ATH, and first take. You tried to move the goal posts by choosing a show that is completely different from a sports commentary show and resorted to discrediting people who watch sports commentary show for entertainment purposes.

Just look at your responses, espn then now you go with none its poison.

Just stop it. Your becoming more dishonest and transparent.




Im not overplaying anything. You are the one in LA LA land if you think Manziel cant be as athletic ON THE FOOTBALL field as kapernick and wilson.

Can you honestly say Manziel is physically and athletically unable to pull of any of the playmaking plays that a Russell Wilson does on the field?

Check his film vs elite competition. To say he cant do the things that RG3 or Wilson can do is downright dishonest.

Check his game film and competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ8xVIgWEBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykxRc-kSH74

That's against Alabama and Nick Saban. His running style the way he chooses his angles to gain more yards without trying to excessively juke his defenders remind me of Kapernick.

Check the film and find the truth. I bet people wouldnt be questioning his athletic ability if he wasnt a white guy named manziel. If he did the same thing but was an african american nobody would question his talent and athletic ability.
Dude....

Stop acting like Bama is the end all be all. LSU puts just as much talent in the NFL as bama does..why not pull up those 2 games from 2012 & 2013 where he was largely smothered & OK at best?

This isn't a race thing & noone's questioning his athletic ability..you're just overblowing how athletic he is when you compare him to the guys you did.
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i have great reading comprehension skills. You're the one who got called out on your BS and got shut down. Now you're doing the whole fake he's so beneath me act because you got owned.

First you're all first take, ATH, PTI are crap shows. Plenty of better shows. Then you give an answer of sports center which is from the same network but a totally different show. That's like comparing a movie to a tv series. Then your answer now is none, its poison.

The your latest post you get personal.

You got exposed and now you are trying to discredit the poster who called you out on your BS.

Anybody with a modicum of intelligence and honesty can see our back and forth here and see that.
Here's your question: "Name me a better sports alternative on television."

My answer was and is Sportscenter because it covers the news of the day. (Key word: alternative)

What part of this can you not comprehend??????

Now go away, you remind me of my ex.
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Do you think the fact that he was drafted by a baseball team automatically makes him a better athalete than Manziel?
Doesn't hurt the arguement .
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they are cut from the same cloth. They are playmakers who can hurt you with their arms and legs. You do know cut from the same cloth is a figure of speech not meant to be taken literally right?

And to say Manziel is not a better athlete than either of those guys is just downright inaccurate. Check the film and see the plays that he pulled off vs elite competition.
RGIII was a world-class hurdler from Quarter Mile U that won a Heisman and in his rookie season in the NFL had a 102+ QBR and rushed for over 800 yards.

Wilson was a two-sport star at NC State in football and baseball, graduated then transferred to Wisconsin where he set the FBS record on passing efficiency. He played minor league baseball, was the NFL ROY, and he has most recently won the Super Bowl.

By the way, both RGIII and Wilson graduated from their respective universities in three years.

So yeah, these two are both better and smarter athletes than Johnny Football.
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RGIII was a world-class hurdler from Quarter Mile U that won a Heisman and in his rookie season in the NFL had a 102+ QBR and rushed for over 800 yards.

Wilson was a two-sport star at NC State in football and baseball, graduated then transferred to Wisconsin where he set the FBS record on passing efficiency. He played minor league baseball, was the NFL ROY, and he has most recently won the Super Bowl.

By the way, both RGIII and Wilson graduated from their respective universities in three years.

So yeah, these two are both better and smarter athletes than Johnny Football.
So did Bridgewater .
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