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Old 01-28-2014   #1341
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Isn't that just what king Texan did? Run in blasting his mouth about something on which he knows little (i.e. claim something dumb). He's misconceived because he's biased and uneducated.


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Look a few posts up, he has trained some very successful players. Just because he couldn't perform on the field doesn't mean he isn't a good teacher. IMG is a highly respect institution.
I am sure those players would have never succeeded without the awe inspiring knowledge of CW.
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Jon Gruden and Sean Payton are QB gurus without the pro careers .
Great coaches, not former NFL failures. Big difference.
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Lol @ kingtexan getting blasted for his ridiculous statement. Think that through next time before you go all smartass around here.
I stand by my statement and find the responses to it ignorant at best. Which basically describes half of the posters on this site, who typically are looking to troll and flame someone instead of offer intelligent conversation or debate. More twelve years old trying to pick fights here than adults with an opinion.
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I am sure those players would have never succeeded without the awe inspiring knowledge of CW.
You are so misinformed. Weinke never flourished in the NFL no, but he was a 4th round pick and never had super high expectations in the NFL anyways...he wasn't even drafted until he was 28 years old and came onto a Panthers team that was a complete wreck to begin with.

If you knew anything you would show the guy some respect as a football player because even after passing on his first offer from FSU, he chose to play Triple A baseball for 6 years. Then after playing baseball he came back to football, won a heisman and battled through a very severe neck injury. Very few people can be successful players in the NFL, doesn't mean they don't know football and can't have a passion for teaching and nurturing young players.

Weinke even said himself he far more enjoys being a coach and mentor than he ever did being a player, and he has been very successful with his academy at IMG...so it seems like a guy who has found his calling. So stop the childish hate and move on, you are only making yourself look worse.
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Ken Whisenhunt
Tony Dungy
Jeff Fischer
Bill Cowher

4 modern day coaches that I can think of that all had very underwhelming careers as players.
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How many great qb's were trained/coached by other great qb's?

Most of the greatest coaches weren't great players, and tons of great players are terrible coaches or terrible front office people.

I think criticizing the abilities of someone without any actual knowledge of how good they are at their job is just ignorance.
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I stand by my statement and find the responses to it ignorant at best. Which basically describes half of the posters on this site, who typically are looking to troll and flame someone instead of offer intelligent conversation or debate. More twelve years old trying to pick fights here than adults with an opinion.
So their responses are ignorant despite based on factual information of who Weinke has worked and the fact he has built a portfolio that points to success at what he does. Meanwhile your responses are all about what he did as a player despite the fact it has been pointed out success in your sport does not equal success outside of it in a different function. Yeah....their responses really sound ignorant when stacked up against yours. You're not looking for debate or conversation. You're looking for folks to agree with you though their arguements has more standing actual information than your own.

Success as a player does not equal coaching/mentoring success. That is simple fact. First, you are wrong about Sean Payton. He played QB at Eastern Illinois and got one year with the Bears before bottoming out. In other words, he had less success in the NFL than Weinke. Not to mention here are a number of the QB coaches in the league:

Zac Taylor - Failed as a NFL QB and CFL QB
David Lee - Never could make it to the pros
Gary Kubiak (OC) - Career backup
Greg Knapp - Failed pro QB. Couldn't even make a roster
Matt Nagy - Arena League QB
Wade Wilson - Medicore QB. Spent more time as a backup
Danny Langsdorf - Never made it to the pros
Bill Musgrave - Career backup
Matt Cavanaugh - Career backup

With that said we probably should steer back on topic instead of this silly and pointless "debate". Some folks can't admit they are wrong about something so not worth the effort to keep going for pages.
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I stand by my statement and find the responses to it ignorant at best. Which basically describes half of the posters on this site, who typically are looking to troll and flame someone instead of offer intelligent conversation or debate. More twelve years old trying to pick fights here than adults with an opinion.
Stand by your statement all you want. It is unfounded and ignorant to say the least. You see a guy who was unsuccessful in the NFL and assume he cant teach young players how to play QB. Most everyone else sees a guy who can at least help these guys be successful during their transition to the NFL and the hiring process.

Try using critical thinking about the subject rather than just spewing the first thought that runs across your brain.
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With that said we probably should steer back on topic instead of this silly and pointless "debate".
Smartest thing said during the entire exchange. Pointless flaming at best ...
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Great coaches, not former NFL failures. Big difference.
I thought you were being serious with your assertions about Teddy not being that good, but when I see you reaching to try to make some argument that being trained by Weinke at IMG should be a negative I know now that you are just basking in the responses you get from being the "bad guy" in the Teddy B thread.

You may think you are being unbiased, but I am pretty sure you are just biased against Teddy for *~-reasons-~*.
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I stand by my statement and find the responses to it ignorant at best. Which basically describes half of the posters on this site, who typically are looking to troll and flame someone instead of offer intelligent conversation or debate. More twelve years old trying to pick fights here than adults with an opinion.
Profound!
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Ironically, marginal players tend to make better coaches than good players. Many good players get by on pure talent. Marginal players lack that talent and get by on technique and understanding the game. Very rare are the guys that have talent and put in all the work on technique and the mental side.
Beat me to it. IMG has had some successes (and some failures), but the institution is much more than just "Chris Weinke and some guys".

Cam Newton is a guy I expected to fail in the NFL due to the offense he ran in college. Whether it was his own hard work, IMG, or a combination of the two, he's been a real success story.
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Great coaches, not former NFL failures. Big difference.
Actually Sean Payton was a QB in the replacement games for the Bears during the strike . I think he actually stuck around a bit when the real players came back . Not big but very smart QB .

Gruden was a QB at Dayton for 3 years but didn't get a sniff as a player in the NFL .

The road is littered with great coaches who weren't great players . This is in every sport and the list includes Lombardi , Lasorda , Carrol , Van Gundy , and so on .
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Profound!
I can think of some antonyms of profound that apply better .
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4 modern day coaches that I can think of that all had very underwhelming careers as players.
What? No Gary Kubiak love?

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I think Peyton Manning is going to make a great coach.
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I think Peyton Manning is going to make a great coach.
Maybe ... or he'll find out that not everybody is going to live and breath it like he does and get frustrated .
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Maybe ... or he'll find out that not everybody is going to live and breath it like he does and get frustrated .
Most likely this. His commitment to excellence reportedly is unmatched.
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Maybe ... or he'll find out that not everybody is going to live and breath it like he does and get frustrated .
Doesn't he run a QB camp? I'd think issues like that would have already come up already.
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