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Old 01-09-2013   #101
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I just wanted to bring up some additional info...
Great info, Doc. (If I hadn't just repped you in the other thread I'd rep you on this.)

And to add some empirical variability, I've known a few men & women who showed significant affects from just over one drink: slurred speech, repeating themselves, wobbly.

Regardless, the general consensus is at .056 judgment and self-control are reduced, and caution, reason and memory are impaired. The young man made a bad decision to get in the car with his friend -- one he may not have chosen had he not been drinking that night.
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In this and other thread, we’ve spoken about drinking and its effects. I just wanted to bring up some additional info as relates to “size” of an involved individual.

There is a deeply ingrained misconception about a large person, such as Brent always being able to drink more than a smaller person before exhibiting the effects of alcohol, or the level of effect, as well as how long the effects can last.

Yes, there will be some difference based on the total volume of blood in a small vs large person, and therefore some ability to dilute the alcohol somewhat in the larger person....not much of a factor when comparing a 200 pounder to a 300 pounder.

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Body fat content is a commonly overlooked major factor in inebriation and length of inebriation. Body fat doesn’t absorb alcohol. Therefore a person with higher body fat is going to have a higher BAC than a person who has less body fat. Since body fat cannot absorb alcohol, it instead forces the alcohol to remain in the bloodstream until the liver can break it down. The liver can only break down about one alcoholic drink per hour. The longer the alcohol remains in a person’s bloodstream, the longer they will feel inebriated.

Women tend to have a higher BAC than men do. This is because women have a higher percentage of body fat and a smaller amount of an enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase that helps break down alcohol. Women also have less blood than men do because they are usually smaller in size.

Tolerance for alcohol seemed a lot higher when you are 21. The longer it took the inevitably feel the affects of alcohol, the more alcohol you probably consumed. Body fat tends to increase with age and enzyme action tends to slow down as a person gets older. And, again, body fat doesn’t absorb alcohol and the more body fat a person has, the higher their BAC will be and the more and longer he stays inebriated.

Also, as an aside, if a person is stressed or angry, they are likely to have a higher BAC than a person who is calm. When a person is under stress or is upset, their body tends to divert blood away from the stomach and small intestines, and instead moves it to the muscles. The reduced blood flow slows down the absorption of alcohol into the bloodstream. The angry or stressed person might not feel the affects of the alcohol immediately and continue drinking. As soon as the person calms down and the blood flow returns to the stomach, the person could experience a sudden increase in their BAC.


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Great info, Doc. (If I hadn't just repped you in the other thread I'd rep you on this.)

And to add some empirical variability, I've known a few men & women who showed significant affects from just over one drink: slurred speech, repeating themselves, wobbly.

Regardless, the general consensus is at .056 judgment and self-control are reduced, and caution, reason and memory are impaired. The young man made a bad decision to get in the car with his friend -- one he may not have chosen had he not been drinking that night.


It does impact everyone differently. You can certainly be highly impaired arrested and convicted of dwi and still be under 0.08. To say most people arent impaired at all at 0.5 is silly imo but Mr Brown certainly showed some impairment that night as you point out that he may not have otherwise
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Any empathy that one would have been left for Brent's plight should just disapper with this latest released bit of information...........Brent was travelling between 110 and 134 mph at the time of the crash.
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According to the documents, Brent was going at a minimum of 110 mph down Highway 114. The report said he may have gone as fast as 134 mph at points.

At least three different surveillance cameras at a nearby Dallas Area Rapid Transit station captured the car, according to the documents. Investigators said the cameras recorded Brent going through a green light at Tom Braniff Drive.

Two 911 calls were made from the car. In one, clicking sounds from the car's flashers are all that can be heard.

NBC 5 has obtained a timeline of what happened Dec. 7:

11:15 p.m.: Brent and some teammates were at Eddie V’s in the Oak Lawn section of Dallas.
1 a.m.: According to witnesses, Brent was at Beamers Nightclub.
2:15 a.m.: Surveillance cameras from the club show Brent driving away.
2:19 a.m.: DART cameras capture Brent's car driving down Highway 114.
2:19 a.m.: A 911 call was made automatically from the in-car phone.
2:21 a.m.: The first passer-by calls 911.
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Probably stressed about the trial and needed to mellow.
Yep, just dabbling in some of that none habit forming marijuana ..... and likely lost his freedom.
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Prosecutors said in their motion that Brent failed a urine test taken after a May 24 court hearing in which they had sought for his bond to be revoked due to problems with his alcohol monitoring. While the judge declined to do so, he did order Brent to provide a urine sample.

A hearing on the prosecutors' motion had not been scheduled Thursday afternoon. Brent's attorney, George Milner, did not immediately return a phone message and a spokeswoman for the Dallas County district attorney declined to comment.

Brent is required to wear an alcohol ankle monitor and appear for regular meetings with a county officer. Judge Robert Burns last month ordered a second form of monitoring to take breath samples, and for Brent to provide the sample after the hearing.

The prosecutors' motion said the test results indicate Brent took marijuana within 30 days of the test date and it did not appear the exposure to marijuana was second-hand.

"Given the defendant's prior alcohol-related contacts and the severity of the charge in this case, it is the State's belief that the defendant continues to pose a threat to the community," prosecutors said in the motion.
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Another graduate of the NFL School for the Stupid...........

Brent has been thrown in jail for failing to comply with the terms of his bond. Imagine that, they insisted that he not smoke marijuana prior to his trial set for September.............
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Full-time NFL player to full-time paralegal...............

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The only way this "retirement" makes any sense is that the Cowboys get to keep the NFL rights to him if at some point his legal troubles are over and he can play football again.
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http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/...-cowboy-begins


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DALLAS -- Former Dallas Cowboys defensive tackle Josh Brent was not drunk, as police contend, when he wrecked his Mercedes in a crash that killed a teammate, Brent's lawyer told jurors Monday during his opening statement at Brent's trial.

Brent is charged with intoxication manslaughter in the December 2012 death of his friend and former college teammate, Jerry Brown, who had made the Cowboys' practice squad that season. If convicted of that charge or of manslaughter, Brent faces up to 20 years in prison.

Police in the Dallas suburb of Irving say blood tests showed that Brent's blood-alcohol content was more than twice the legal limit after the crash. But Brent's lawyer, George Milner, signaled that he will try to undermine the state's assertions that Brent was too drunk to drive on the night of the crash.

Milner argued that the tall, lumbering Brent, who was a 320-pound lineman when he played for the Cowboys, could drink more than the average person without becoming intoxicated.

"Josh Brent is as big as a house," Milner said. "He's got a heart -- better yet a mind -- of a person much younger than he really is."

Milner also argued that no person could have passed a field sobriety test after the fiery wreck.

"He is guilty of being stupid behind the wheel of a car," Milner said. "He is guilty of driving too fast."

Prosecutor Heath Harris described how dash cam video would show Brent failing a field sobriety test after the wreck in suburban Dallas. Harris said receipts would prove that Brent purchased cocktails with several shots of liquor in them and three bottles of Champagne at a night club.

"This is not a difficult case, ladies and gentlemen," Harris said. "There will be no disputing the fact that he was drinking that night."

Brent's attorney has argued his client deserves probation, and Brown's mother says she has forgiven her son's college teammate and friend. But prosecutors have made Brent's case a priority, and it comes on the heels of another well-publicized case in neighboring Tarrant County in which a teenage driver was sentenced to probation in a drunken crash that killed four people.

Brent and Brown were close friends and former teammates at the University of Illinois. Brent was a defensive tackle who had played in all 12 games of the 2012 NFL season. He would retire in July.

Brown was a linebacker who had been signed to the Cowboys' practice squad that season.

The prosecution showed photos of Brown to the jury, which was seated last week, and described his passion for the game.

"All Jerry ever wanted to do was play football," Harris said.
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#JoshBrent faces up to 20 years in prison for intox manslaughter conviction. Also probation eligible. Jury going home after night in hotel.

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Josh Brent sentenced to 180 days in jail, 10 years of probation

Pretty amazing. 2nd DWI & killed a guy.

I know guys who've served that for 2nd/3rd misdemeanor DWI with no accidents/injuries/wrong ways/etc.
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Pretty amazing. 2nd DWI & killed a guy.

I know guys who've served that for 2nd/3rd misdemeanor DWI with no accidents/injuries/wrong ways/etc.
This is a joke....this dude needs to be doing a minimum of 10 years in prison for what he did...
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This is a joke....this dude needs to be doing a minimum of 10 years in prison for what he did...
Can't find the link at the moment, but pretty much every other dude in Dallas county who committed the same crime, got double digit years in prison over the last handful of years.
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Can't find the link at the moment, but pretty much every other dude in Dallas county who committed the same crime, got double digit years in prison over the last handful of years.
Did they play for the Cowboys?

It's no wonder so many athletes do such stupid things. Even when they screw up they tend to get away with it.
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Did they play for the Cowboys?

It's no wonder so many athletes do such stupid things. Even when they screw up they tend to get away with it.
Well, of course, not. I still find it funny the "outrage" the some of the moralist have over a guy like Sherman, but really ignore/remain silent over an actual guy who has endangered(still can) society.
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Well, of course, not. I still find it funny the "outrage" the some of the moralist have over a guy like Sherman, but really ignore/remain silent over an actual guy who has endangered(still can) society.
Agreed. I thought the Sherman thing was hilarious. I love to see guys show a little pride and emotion. I had no problem with his outburst. I actually thought he made a great point when he addressed it the next day. Those hockey players lined up to fight before the puck was dropped and we all knew it. But Sherman opens his mouth and he's the thug....
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Can't find the link at the moment, but pretty much every other dude in Dallas county who committed the same crime, got double digit years in prison over the last handful of years.
The numbers were 10 other manslaughter. Dui conviction in dallas county in yhe last year 10 prison sentences average of 15 year sentences
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