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Old 01-25-2014   #21
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Giving up 2.1 for Big Ben would make it easier to make a trade with Cleveland and try and get those 2 1st rounders and maybe a 3rd or picks next year. Target a top defensive player and a lineman with those 2 1st rounders and look to provide secondary help in the 3rd.

I'm not saying I would want them to go this route, I haven't thought enough about it to form a strong opinion one way or another, but it does improve the QB play and allows other holes to be filled as well.
Why would it make it easier to trade with Cleveland?
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He's an older 32, though. He's taken some hits.
I'd take 5 years of Big Ben in a heartbeat for a 2nd.
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I'd take 5 years of Big Ben in a heartbeat for a 2nd.
I would too.

And, certainly, all those people who believe certain QBs have championship intangibles and others do not, would trade away 1.1 for a few years with Big Ben... especially since those also to tend to be the same people that believe in gambling heavily against the future for a shot at the Superbowl... because "that's the only thing that matters".
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With Munchak being named Steelers OC, I suspect that there is no way that Big Ben goes anywhere. With Munchak, Ben can expect much better protection....in turn, with less likelihood for injury.
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With Munchak being named Steelers OC, I suspect that there is no way that Big Ben goes anywhere.
Munchak went to the Steelers as the O-line coach. He'll need to get better players if the Steelers are to improve their pass protection. Getting the running game going might help the most. 27th in rushing is not Steeler football.

I don't think Ben is going anywhere and I do think O'Brien wants to get his own guy. Sounds like a complete fabrication with no basis in fact.
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Munchak went to the Steelers as the O-line coach. He'll need to get better players if the Steelers are to improve their pass protection. Getting the running game going might help the most. 27th in rushing is not Steeler football.

I don't think Ben is going anywhere and I do think O'Brien wants to get his own guy. Sounds like a complete fabrication with no basis in fact.
Concur. If Big Ben was going somewhere it would have been after he was accused of forcing himself on an inebriated Coed in Georgia several years ago.
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I'd take 5 years of Big Ben in a heartbeat for a 2nd.
Wouldn't even hesitate. Man walks in the door and instantly becomes the best QB the Houston Texans have ever had on their roster.
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Wouldn't even hesitate. Man walks in the door and instantly becomes the best QB the Houston Texans have ever had on their roster.
C'mon guys Ben Roethlisberger is not Texan worthy
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No to Roethlisberger. The price is just too high for a QB near the end of his career.
If he's near the end of his career, his career has several more productive years left.

He played some of the best football of his career in the last half of the season.
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Concur. If Big Ben was going somewhere it would have been after he was accused of forcing himself on an inebriated Coed in Georgia several years ago.
Yes, forcing himself on a coed who, along with her friends, was wearing a T-shirt that declared, "Down to F..."

By the way, he's married and a father (and about to have No. 2). Give him an f-ing break.
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I am going to say no thanks for same reasons noted that Steelers don't want to pay him big money
So you don't believe BoB when he says he believes this will be a quick turnaround?

If I'm BoB and I truly beleive this (which I don't) then I'm all in on Big Ben.
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Always liked Ben.

Would be interesting as a temporary measure.
Temporary?

5 yrs? I'm in
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So you don't believe BoB when he says he believes this will be a quick turnaround?

If I'm BoB and I truly beleive this (which I don't) then I'm all in on Big Ben.
I don't think the Steelers would take anything but something we would consider highway robbery (something that starts with 1.1 + X, y...) so I don't expect it to happen but if he were offered as described it would be a no brainer. I would even do it for 1.1 alone.
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Giving up 2.1 for Big Ben would make it easier to make a trade with Cleveland and try and get those 2 1st rounders and maybe a 3rd or picks next year. Target a top defensive player and a lineman with those 2 1st rounders and look to provide secondary help in the 3rd.

I'm not saying I would want them to go this route, I haven't thought enough about it to form a strong opinion one way or another, but it does improve the QB play and allows other holes to be filled as well.
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This, except I would love it if they wnt this route. Ben has atleast 5 yrs left in him. The best QB yrs Texans fans wii have ever seen.

If Rick gets Clowney and Big Ben in the same draft, then my hat's off to him. QB problem solved for the next 5 yrs. Premier pass rusher to helpout Watt and draft a serviceable RT in Rd.3 and trade up to get NT Justin Ellis and I'm a happy man coming out of this draft.

Pick a RB lie Dyer or Crowell in the 6-7th rd keep them out of trouble for a couple of yrs and this will be a spectacular draft.
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No to Roethlisberger. The price is just too high for a QB near the end of his career.
He's 32 yrs old ? How much are you willing to pay for a former SB winning QB that can give you 5-8 yrs of the best QB play this franchise has ever seen?
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Texans just need to draft their QB period. They could have drafted Ben. They could have drafted Flacco. They could have drafted Foles (owned both later picks before trading back) ENOUGH! Figure it out boyz on Kirby
Is Big Ben better than any QB in this draft? His rings speak loudly.
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I would too.

And, certainly, all those people who believe certain QBs have championship intangibles and others do not, would trade away 1.1 for a few years with Big Ben... especially since those also to tend to be the same people that believe in gambling heavily against the future for a shot at the Superbowl... because "that's the only thing that matters".
Tell me again how this would be betting heavily against the future?

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Concur. If Big Ben was going somewhere it would have been after he was accused of forcing himself on an inebriated Coed in Georgia several years ago.
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I don't think the Steelers would take anything but something we would consider highway robbery (something that starts with 1.1 + X, y...) so I don't expect it to happen but if he were offered as described it would be a no brainer. I would even do it for 1.1 alone.
Agreed, but I'm not a cap expert?

How would they fit him under the cap?
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