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Old 12-28-2013   #161
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I'm thinking Matthews is second half of first round level talent.
The problem is the GMs don't agree. I'd love to trade down to 5 or 6 and pick up a 12-15 and draft Matthews. But that's not going to happen.

Best case scenario absent a trade partner? Draft Clowney who has the riot act explained to him by Watt and Cushing getting the most out of him on every play. Then have Bortles drop to 2-1. Brennan Williams and David Quessenberry fully recover to stack the line and Manning and a third round pick at safety shore up the secondary.
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And you are?
No I'm not. Never pretended to be. My comments were I am not familiar with any RB who was as successful after back surgery as he was before back surgery. I don't believe a medical degree is required to make such a statement. I still stand by both of these statements.
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No I'm not. Never pretended to be. My comments were I am not familiar with any RB who was as successful after back surgery as he was before back surgery. I don't believe a medical degree is required to make such a statement. I still stand by both of these statements.
Can you list some who have undergone surgery other than Slaton and Foster?
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Can you list some who have undergone surgery other than Slaton and Foster?
Slaton underwent some kind of neck surgery huh? He had nerve issues... Foster doesn't, not that I know of. I also don't see any reason back issues would be a problem for Arian. It's not like he's Tmac or something.
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Slaton underwent some kind of neck surgery huh? He had nerve issues... Foster doesn't, not that I know of. I also don't see any reason back issues would be a problem for Arian. It's not like he's Tmac or something.
I have more worries about the tread on Foster's tires than his back surgery. I think he can come back just fine from the surgery, but he only has 2-3 years left of top production. He will start declining soon, surgery or not. You can already see his body starting to wear out with all the injuries.
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I have more worries about the tread on Foster's tires than his back surgery. I think he can come back just fine from the surgery, but he only has 2-3 years left of top production. He will start declining soon, surgery or not. You can already see his body starting to wear out with all the injuries.
Why would anyone want to remove 2-3 years of top production by Foster from this team? Not directed at you, just asking?
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Jake Matthews, now not in this guy's top 10: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...ut-DaneBrugler

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I could see Jake Matthews as an outstanding center in the league. Jake’s dad Bruce played tackle guard and finally center during his career

Respected personnel man in Mobile told me teams are starting to consider A&M’s Jake Matthews as a center. That could impact his draft stock
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I won't be shocked if he's not a top 10 pick when all is said and done.
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IMO Matthews had a better season last year. He definitely doesn't project as a LT to me. He's more of a RT or RG if anything. The Center thing I just can't see, but talent evaluators know much more than me I'm sure.
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Told ya
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Both Matthews and Lewan had better junior years than senior years. Both could have been drafted very high as LT's, but they came back and now Matthews is being looked at as a RT, OG, or C by some and Lewan is being talked about as a RT.
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I won't be shocked if he's not a top 10 pick when all is said and done.
I said two months ago, 12 to 15 at best.
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I said two months ago, 12 to 15 at best.
Which makes the people that were saying we should use our first overall on him look even more foolish, and there were several.
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Which makes the people that were saying we should use our first overall on him look even more foolish, and there were several.
Yep that's who I was telling it too.
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I said two months ago, 12 to 15 at best.
But he went to A&M and his daddy was a Hall of Famer...
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But he went to A&M and his daddy was a Hall of Famer...
Could still go 12-15 and be a hall of famer.....
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Could still go 12-15 and be a hall of famer.....
No doubt about it.

But where he went to school and who his daddy is are two main reasons why he is so highly rated around here, both of which have nothing to do with his own ability.
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IMHO I don't think Matthews will be the first OT taken in the draft. There are a couple of more athletic OTs that could be in this draft. Matthews last few games were disappointing.
and now there is talk of him playing center....not surprised.
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Did he get measured recently? Are his arms really short? Why are people discussing him as a center instead of a guard or tackle? That's a big downgrade.
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Did he get measured recently? Are his arms really short? Why are people discussing him as a center instead of a guard or tackle? That's a big downgrade.
see Senior Bowl thread
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