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Old 01-20-2014   #21
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Just make them kick the extra point from the 20 yard line so it's not so automatic.
I like this idea much better. I'd like the thirty-five even better (ie 52 yard FG). Make the extra point a fifty fifty proposition.
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I don't know about the concept of "longer is more points". I hate the concept of penalizing good defense, even though I recognize a PAT isn't a field goal. That's why I hate the three point shot in basketball. Too often I see a team play lock down defense on an opponent trying to penetrate and get in for a good shot, only to kick it out to some three-point specialist with 5 seconds on the shot clock and drain a three-pointer. The defense gives up one point more than they would have if they didn't play such good interior defense.


If your entire defense is collapsing on the paint and leaves someone open for a free look 3 you aren't playing lock down defense. You do understand it's harder to hit 3s in general right? That's why it's worth more points
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Kinda defeats the purpose of getting the extra yards in certain situations, though.

I think they should just have the automatic extra point or go for 2 choice and/or consider making the goal posts closer together. Probably both. The extra point play is bathroom break time.


How would the optional pat distances for more points defeat getting extra yardage in certain sitautions ?
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Just make them kick the extra point from the 20 yard line so it's not so automatic.
With teams making the 2-point conversion 50% of the time, I wonder how many would choose that a lot more.

Not a bad idea, though. I do wish they would start trying something. They could try one idea or the other for a year and asses the next offseason, as long as they go with one of the more popular ideas and not something off-the-wall--and I don't think they will anyway.

BTW, I wonder if we'll still have the same kicker next year.
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With teams making the 2-point conversion 50% of the time, I wonder how many would choose that a lot more.
Actually, any time you make a 2-point conversion more than about 49.8% of the time (with the 99.6% PAT conversion rate this year), mathematically you are better off going for 2 every time. Of course, there are other variables involved, but none more than a coach's desire to not be second-guessed for not going by the book.
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Keep the extra point but get rid of the holder. All extra points are dropkicked.
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Default Re: NFL considering proposal to abolish extra points

I had this idea back in 2009. I don't understand the need for an extra point. For once I agree with Goodell.

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58435
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Keep the extra point but get rid of the holder. All extra points are dropkicked.
I like this idea. Bring back the drop kick!
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Default Re: NFL considering proposal to abolish extra points

Dear Roger,

Please save all of your "great" ideas for your future job as the president of the National Flag Football Association.
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How would the optional pat distances for more points defeat getting extra yardage in certain sitautions ?
Oh, sorry. I was thinking of 3 pointers, not PAT.
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Default Re: NFL considering proposal to abolish extra points

The NFL starting to think outside the box, getting a little imaginative ?
Wow, this ain't grandpa's NFL.
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I'm really starting to hate Roger Goodell....leave the game alone dumbass!!!!!
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Extra point solution. If you want 1 point, put the offense 1 yard out and run a play. 2 points: 5 yards out. Run a play.
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Default Re: NFL considering proposal to abolish extra points

NFL is failing so clearly it needs to be made more gimmicky....... I think when baseball players hit home runs they shouldn't have to bother running around the bases.... I mean, clearly whats the point? They could twist an ankle or something stepping on the base.
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NFL is failing so clearly it needs to be made more gimmicky....... I think when baseball players hit home runs they shouldn't have to bother running around the bases.... I mean, clearly whats the point? They could twist an ankle or something stepping on the base.

I give the NFL credit in that it does look to make changes and does make them at times whereas baseball is slow as dirt at making changes to much of anything. Look at instant replay in baseball and how long that took. That may be part of the problem with baseball's popularity. Taking the PAT kick away from the game would leave it little changed except for speeding it up
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Anyone else starting to feel like Goodell cares less about the game and more about making his mark on it?..
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Default Re: NFL considering proposal to abolish extra points

I say dump the extra point. I dont know what system makes the most sense in replacement, but its a pointless play at current.

Whats really annoying is the extra point combined with review of all TDs. Then you sometimes end up with...

Touchdown -> Questionable, so extended review
(Commercial break)
Touchdown upheald!
Extra Point
(Commercial break)
Kickoff!
(Maybe more commercials if we need to cram some in!)
Play resumes.

It is the slowest part of the game, and can't be good for the momentum of the scoring team.
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What I want more than anything is for Roger Goodell to get a damned hobby or something and quit "tweaking" the rules of the best damn game in the history of games.

By the time he's done I'm going to be watching the London Silly Nannies run around in circles with streamers getting points for who can pirouette best and who can sing Gilbert and Sullivan while balancing a ball on their nose. This **** does not have to change every year. It just doesn't. Leave it alone and stop ****ing up a good thing Roger.
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What I want more than anything is for Roger Goodell to get a damned hobby or something and quit "tweaking" the rules of the best damn game in the history of games.

By the time he's done I'm going to be watching the London Silly Nannies run around in circles with streamers getting points for who can pirouette best and who can sing Gilbert and Sullivan while balancing a ball on their nose. This **** does not have to change every year. It just doesn't. Leave it alone and stop ****ing up a good thing Roger.


how much would this change the game?
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how much would this change the game?
It's not a necessary change so why change it?

Only change the things that need to be changed, like the instant replay procedure on fumble recoveries.
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