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Old 01-18-2014   #21
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Bill must have caught them playing solitaire on the computer instead of planning ahead for the draft.
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Fire Rick Smith next.
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Bill must have caught them playing solitaire on the computer instead of planning ahead for the draft.
I am curious if OB had any say in these firings.

It's probable that Kubiak would still be here, if he'd have fired Marciano, Bush, Wade..... Benton. If nothing else, a head coach should be able to assemble a competent staff. & quite frankly I haven't been pleased with many of our position coaches.

So maybe Rick is doing what Kubiak wouldn't & shedding dead weight.

I am cautious that it sounds like I was right & Rick Smith did not have as much influence over the HC hire as I would like. Well, not that I wanted Rick Smith picking our HC, but the GM should have some influence over the HC, I think.

The HC should have absolutely no influence on scouts & directors of pro personnel.

At the very least, it sounds like our HC & our GM are the heads of two departments, reporting directly to Bob McNair.
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I wanted them to fire everyone including the janitor but Gardner will do.
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The thing is year in and year out there are journeyman type players who go on to make significant impacts for their new teams. The Texans haven't been exactly hitting on those types of signings I would say. Ball was one guy who was decent for us in certain aspects, but he was JAG.

I think this probably may have had a little something to do with it IMO. Maybe they looked at some of their reports on past free agents, and they could have just been completely off. Having known people in the scouting department I can tell you that if you miss and are way off on too many guys then you won't have a job for long. Its very possible that's what happened in this case.
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any chance they bring in alonzo highsmith from the packers to replace gardner until they promote him to GM when lil ricky gets the ax in a year or two?
Highsmith is in Miami, right? If I was 'zo I'd take just about any gig that got my away from that dumpster fire of an organization.
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I'm not pretending to know what's going on (cause I have no idea), and it could certainly be that this is O'Brien flexing his muscle, but has anybody considered the possibility that these are Kubiak guys who were simply cleared out as Rick Smith works to consolidate power at the front office level?

Both of these guys were hired by the Texans in '06, and while nobody knows fore certain, there's clearly a number of folks who believe that Kubiak was in charge of pretty much everything at the time of his hire.

Lots of folks (including me) will hate this idea, and I can't even call it speculation as I'm not saying I believe it to be true - just wondering about it.

Anybody out there seeing something I'm not and therefore can shoot this theory out of the water?
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What the F has Whisenhunt done to win you over?
I'm not necessarily a Whisenhunt guy, but honestly why has he not been as successful an NFL HC as Jon Gruden or Cower ? OK he's much more understated and not got that flashy personality of Gruden, or dosen't look mean and slobber like Cowher, but if not for a terrible call by a ref he win's the SB just as those other two coachs .
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Highsmith is in Miami, right? If I was 'zo I'd take just about any gig that got my away from that dumpster fire of an organization.
He's a "Senior Personnel Executive" with the Packers.
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He's a "Senior Personnel Executive" with the Packers.
Ah, thanks.
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I'm not necessarily a Whisenhunt guy, but honestly why has he not been as successful an NFL HC as Jon Gruden or Cower ? OK he's much more understated and not got that flashy personality of Gruden, or dosen't look mean and slobber like Cowher, but if not for a terrible call by a ref he win's the SB just as those other two coachs .
Whisenhunt was probably right behind Lovie on the list of guys we didn't hire but I would have been fine with (and for the record, I have no problem with O'Brien being brought in ahead of either of those guys).

What I don't understand is hearing the primary (and almost exclusive) criticism of Whisenhunt being that he couldn't win without Warner, but then - from a generic NFL coaching standpoint - seeing how many folks put forth the philosophy that you can't succeed without an above average QB. Arizona never had a QB that was even close to average after Warner retired.

We've had some debate on this site for the last few years (thankfully no longer relevant) that went beyond the QB position, regarding whether Kubiak was capable of getting a team to the Super Bowl . Simply questioning was he capable of doing it under any circumstances. Well, that's an argument that doesn't need to be conducted as it relates to Whisenhunt.

As a somewhat related additional comment, I'm not excited at all to see that he's bringing in Ray Horton to coordinate the Titans D.
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Many people in the league believe if Texans GM Rick Smith had his way, Ken Whisenhunt would have been his top choice. More change could come


I agree with Rick Smith..
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When you finish 2-14 there is going to be people getting fired. Gardner may have been the greatest guy in the world but he was a contributor to 2-14.

Although I would've preferred Whisenhunt over Obie, I'm very happy to know that BoB's token didn't set the franchises future.
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What the F has Whisenhunt done to win you over?
Yes... tell us. Please.
Count me in the camp of those that think Whisenhunt's success out west was due to Kurt Warner. We don't have anything close to a Kurt Warner. Whisenhunt has never, ever shown the ability to pick a good QB let alone develop a rookie QB.
I'm actually rejoicing that Tennessee is stuck with him. I think they screwed the pooch by firing Munchak
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Well, there goes my inside source
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I'm not pretending to know what's going on (cause I have no idea), and it could certainly be that this is O'Brien flexing his muscle, but has anybody considered the possibility that these are Kubiak guys who were simply cleared out as Rick Smith works to consolidate power at the front office level?

Both of these guys were hired by the Texans in '06, and while nobody knows fore certain, there's clearly a number of folks who believe that Kubiak was in charge of pretty much everything at the time of his hire.

Lots of folks (including me) will hate this idea, and I can't even call it speculation as I'm not saying I believe it to be true - just wondering about it.

Anybody out there seeing something I'm not and therefore can shoot this theory out of the water?
There MIGHT be a connection with Kubiak but I don't know.

http://media.houstontexans.com/image...tionsStaff.pdf

Based on this document, he came over in 2006 after spending a couple of years with the Buccs. Prior to that, he was with the Niners for several years.

He could have known Kubiak from that Niners association. But I don't know.
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What I don't understand is hearing the primary (and almost exclusive) criticism of Whisenhunt being that he couldn't win without Warner, but then - from a generic NFL coaching standpoint - seeing how many folks put forth the philosophy that you can't succeed without an above average QB. Arizona never had a QB that was even close to average after Warner retired.
The question is: Who's fault is that? Is it Whisenhunt's fault that he couldn't identify the right QB? Or is it his fault that he couldn't develop the ones he got?

I don't know either way on that. He did a pretty good job developing Roethlisberger and getting the most out of him when he was a young QB but then again, how much say did he have in drafting him?

He might just have a bad eye in spotting QB talent and how it's going to transition to the NFL. In which case, he's not a guy we'd want.

In a lot of ways, Whisenhunt is like Kubiak to me. They don't seem to have an eye for finding QB talent but when they get it, they can put an offense around it.
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I'm not pretending to know what's going on (cause I have no idea), and it could certainly be that this is O'Brien flexing his muscle, but has anybody considered the possibility that these are Kubiak guys who were simply cleared out as Rick Smith works to consolidate power at the front office level?

Both of these guys were hired by the Texans in '06, and while nobody knows fore certain, there's clearly a number of folks who believe that Kubiak was in charge of pretty much everything at the time of his hire.

Lots of folks (including me) will hate this idea, and I can't even call it speculation as I'm not saying I believe it to be true - just wondering about it.

Anybody out there seeing something I'm not and therefore can shoot this theory out of the water?
I'd say you are "getting warmer" with those statements. There was definitely more than a couple of people in the scouting department who thought Rick should have been fired, and didn't respect him as a talent evaluator, but not because they are simply Kubiak guys. I'm surprised it took him this long to give those guys the boot, but I'm not surprised they are gone. Incompetent folks always need to fire subordinates in order to cover up their own inadequacies, and that's all that is happening here.
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I'd say you are "getting warmer" with those statements. There was definitely more than a couple of people in the scouting department who thought Rick should have been fired, and didn't respect him as a talent evaluator, but not because they are simply Kubiak guys. I'm surprised it took him this long to give those guys the boot, but I'm not surprised they are gone. Incompetent folks always need to fire subordinates in order to cover up their own inadequacies, and that's all that is happening here.
He'll run out of fall guys soon
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Count me in the camp of those that think Whisenhunt's success out west was due to Kurt Warner. We don't have anything close to a Kurt Warner. Whisenhunt has never, ever shown the ability to pick a good QB let alone develop a rookie QB.
Like ChampionTexan said, we all know no coach is going to go far without a QB. I don't hold that against Whiz.

He also didn't have Derrick Brooks & Warren Sapp. He took a team very similar to the one we have to the Super Bowl. So did Love Smith.

After Warner & Lienart their stabs at future QB were iffy & strange. I don't know those were his decisions or his GMs. So I don't hold those against him either.

If Rick Smith is the guy his fans say he is, I think Whiz or Lovie was the quickest path to a Super Bowl. I've got nothing against OB. I'm looking forward to next season.

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