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Old 01-13-2014   #1521
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I'll just say this - I've mentioned before that McNair is enamored with Manziel , its been ignored for the most part .... but hey , what do I know ?
Do you think Gil Brandt is putting JFF #1 in his mock because he has inside info on the Texans, or because he wants to be provocative and get lots of webhits?
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I'll just say this - I've mentioned before that McNair is enamored with Manziel , its been ignored for the most part .... but hey , what do I know ?
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I'll just say this - I've mentioned before that McNair is enamored with Manziel , its been ignored for the most part .... but hey , what do I know ?
Is that ESPN, a gut feeling, ya'll chatted on the links? Got a link for this enamoration? (new word )
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I'll just say this - I've mentioned before that McNair is enamored with Manziel , its been ignored for the most part .... but hey , what do I know ?
McNair already has a boytoy... Keenum. Manziel's coming at the wrong time. Should have stayed another year.
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Aren't you the guy that spammed in every thread calling Bridgewater a cross dresser?
You are thinking of Lord Bills, whose number one requirement of a QB is that he be fashionable.

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I'll just say this - I've mentioned before that McNair is enamored with Manziel , its been ignored for the most part .... but hey , what do I know ?
I'm on record that I would LOVE for us to draft Manziel. However I believe it's more likely McNair is floating this out there because of the recent reports that Cleveland is infatuated with JM and they are sitting on two first round picks. Just as I predicted would happen awhile back. Like I said, the chess game has begun.

I would be surprised if every rumor of another high picking team falling in love with a player wasn't followed by a rumor that we were leaning that way ourselves.
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I'm on record that I would LOVE for us to draft Manziel. However I believe it's more likely McNair is floating this out there because of the recent reports that Cleveland is infatuated with JM and they are sitting on two first round picks. Just as I predicted would happen awhile back. Like I said, the chess game has begun.

I would be surprised if every rumor of another high picking team falling in love with a player wasn't followed by a rumor that we were leaning that way ourselves.
Is there an actual link to this rumor? I feel out of the know, like I missed something.
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Is there an actual link to this rumor? I feel out of the know, like I missed something.
Something from NFL.com?
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I meant the rumor that McNair is interested.
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I'm on record that I would LOVE for us to draft Manziel. However I believe it's more likely McNair is floating this out there because of the recent reports that Cleveland is infatuated with JM and they are sitting on two first round picks. Just as I predicted would happen awhile back. Like I said, the chess game has begun.

I would be surprised if every rumor of another high picking team falling in love with a player wasn't followed by a rumor that we were leaning that way ourselves.
This strategy doesn't sound conducive to wanting to trade the pick to me. I'm sure the Browns aren't sitting there hoping that we'll want their 2 number ones & then some.

If they need to trade with us, they should already know their other one is required. Them trying to pry away a player we love is going to cost more. If I were the Browns & I knew the Texans coveted the same player I do.... then I know I'll have to overpay... & I don't want to overpay.

Washington was able to trade with St.Louis, because they "knew" St.Louis did not want RG3, & Cleveland did. The only way Cleveland trades with us, is because they don't want that to happen again. They can't trade ahead of the #1 pick.

They have to believe St. Louis wants Manziel. Then the likely hood of a trade becomes more likely. "We" can't fall in love with any player, especially not the player our likely trade partner covets.
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This strategy doesn't sound conducive to wanting to trade the pick to me. I'm sure the Browns aren't sitting there hoping that we'll want their 2 number ones & then some.

If they need to trade with us, they should already know their other one is required. Them trying to pry away a player we love is going to cost more. If I were the Browns & I knew the Texans coveted the same player I do.... then I know I'll have to overpay... & I don't want to overpay.

Washington was able to trade with St.Louis, because they "knew" St.Louis did not want RG3, & Cleveland did. The only way Cleveland trades with us, is because they don't want that to happen again. They can't trade ahead of the #1 pick.

They have to believe St. Louis wants Manziel. Then the likely hood of a trade becomes more likely. "We" can't fall in love with any player, especially not the player our likely trade partner covets.
I think you are overthinking this a little.
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So would #4 and #26 be enough in the eyes of the JFF fans?
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Do you think Gil Brandt is putting JFF #1 in his mock because he has inside info on the Texans, or because he wants to be provocative and get lots of webhits?
Actually he hasn't done a mock yet.
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Do you think Gil Brandt is putting JFF #1 in his mock because he has inside info on the Texans, or because he wants to be provocative and get lots of webhits?
Ding Ding Ding Ding!!! Teddy B. on the top of your mock draft is not sexy and worth the page click, so people do things to be different and get you interested. Maybe you will be so annoyed that you even sign up for an account and give the man a comment under the article. Either way he wins.
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in the second round or later i'd be willing to take the risk. i wouldnt spend a first on manziel though. to me, he's vince young with an extra IQ point and fewer natural talents ... and similar maturity issues. he's super exciting and fun to watch, but what does he do that keenum doesnt/didnt? it's funny that so many highlights are when a pocket breaks down, because we know dang well that that's when it's over in the NFL. a pro quarterback has to make plays BEFORE the rush gets there to have success at this level. manning, brady, rodgers, brees ... these are the elites. what makes them the elites is the first 2.9 seconds. "making plays" isnt going to win a superbowl, ask michael vick. "MAKING THROWS" will win superbowls, ask joe flacco.
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So would #4 and #26 be enough in the eyes of the JFF fans?
Even though I like all three QB's I guess you could call me a JFF fan. To answer your question, No! Not because we would be giving up on Johnny. Because I don't think that's fair value. It's going to cost a little more. Preferably a high pick next year.
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Ding Ding Ding Ding!!! Teddy B. on the top of your mock draft is not sexy and worth the page click, so people do things to be different and get you interested. Maybe you will be so annoyed that you even sign up for an account and give the man a comment under the article. Either way he wins.
He hasn't even done a mock yet. It doesn't come out till tomorrow. Manziel is his number one rated player.
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Even though I like all three QB's I guess you could call me a JFF fan. To answer your question, No! Not because we would be giving up on Johnny. Because I don't think that's fair value. It's going to cost a little more. Preferably a high pick next year.
So something more along the lines of the epic fleecing St Louis pulled (3 firsts and a second)?
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He hasn't even done a mock yet. It doesn't come out till tomorrow. Manziel is his number one rated player.
And? I know his mock comes out tomorrow. Doesnt refute anything I said. And if JF is his #1 rated player, or even QB for that matter then I can only assume he is becoming senile in his old age.
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